--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: F5H00004 Date: 05/12/98 From: MARILYN BOISSONEAULT Time: 08:46pm \/To: RITA BUSSELL (Read 2 times) Subj: Mockingbirds -=> Quoting Rita Bussell to Marilyn Boissoneault <=- RB> That is really strange. I have some Downeys that really like it. In RB> fact, I had to hang mine upside down so that the bigger birds would RB> leave it alone. I use to make my own suet cakes last year, but they RB> were so good that even though they were hung upside down, the house RB> sparrows were demolishing them and it became too expensive. They don't RB> seem to like the commercial cakes, so that's what I use now. I also RB> hang out raw suet and that does go much faster than the cakes. I think OH! Maybe that's it. I bought one of the commercial cakes and no one wanted it. It's been several years so I don't remember too much about it other than no one wanted to mess with it. I do have woodpeckers and had hoped to attract them to it. The pair of woodpeckers I had at the time were rather shy and were afraid of it. RB> He really loved the raw suet and I use to hang some on the Sunflower RB> feeder for him, but then the $%#^$@$ Starlings discovered it and I RB> had to stop. Argggh starlings, gosh I haven't had them in a while! Wonder why I'm so lucky. Usually in the spring they're trying to make nests in my attic!.. GRRR I dont' like that one bit. Hope they decided Florida isn't a good place to raise their babies!! RB> He now frequents the Woodpecker feeder looking for RB> whatever the Woodpeckers drop into the seed tray. I've also discovered RB> he loves peanut butter and jelly....so I set out a little of that RB> every day in a cap from a jar that I put in the seed tray. The funniest RB> sight I've ever seen is him fluttering in the air trying to get some of RB> the goodies out of the holes of the Woodpecker feeder. There are no RB> perches. It was a losing battle. ;-) It would be nice if I could find something they liked better than tomatoes. You must be really big into bird feeding. You have a special woodpecker feeder? What is that like? Marilyn ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Alexi/Mail 2.00 (#10000) * Origin: Space Coast REACT, Melbourne FL <407> 255-9069 (1:374/710) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: F5I00000 Date: 05/12/98 From: BIRDMAN Time: 10:21pm \/To: DON DODSON (Read 2 times) Subj: Gee ... DD> From The New Garden Encyclopedia Pp292: DD> CLOVER: A common name for the genus Trifolium, (...) ... if I didn't already have a field and lawn abundant with clover, all of which made me seek out as much information as I could, I guess I'd have to thank you for enlightening me. Don, I'm sure that, at least originally, we never intended any offense, but ... You appear to be one of those people who have set yourself up to appear an expert on a particular subject, declared a certain set of circumstances to be irreversably so, and now, finding yourself in an untennable postition, resort to flinging out dictionary definitions as though they somehow support your position. You're trying to edjumacate the edjumacated. What you don't seem to understand is that neither WLski or I are trying to say that your suggested method is wrong (as you are with ours). In fact, in my original response I made the same suggestion. What we are, however, saying is that your scope of experience, or perhaps expertise, is limited so as to exclude other methods, including that suggested by WLski. And I'll bet my 10 acres of clover, which I've been learning to coax into vibrant growth, against your dictionary any day. Byrd Mann ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.1h * Origin: The Playhouse TC's Gaming BBS/www.phouse.com/698.3748 (1:282/4059) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: F5I00001 Date: 05/13/98 From: RITA BUSSELL Time: 09:25am \/To: JIM VENEDAM (Read 2 times) Subj: Bird feeders JV> I don't use any special seeds, just the 25# bags they sell at JV> K Mart and Wal Mart. The doves, sparrows, woodpeckers, and JV> cardinals like it plenty good. I use the mixed seed in one of my feeders and the house sparrows more or less monopolize that one, but the other birds do use it also. I've been having a problem with pigeons the last two summers as the sparrows are such sloppy eaters and they throw the seed all over. I also have other individual feeders filled with Sunflower, Thistle, Cracked Corn and Safflower. I was surprised to see that a variety of birds were eating the cracked corn. Do you ever get any Gold Finches? I don't think I've ever really noticed them at anything but the Thistle feeder, or maybe sometimes at the Sunflower seed. JV> The feeder is planted in the middle of a big patch of cardinal JV> plant. I have to watch it that it doesn't grow too high or the JV> squirrels get up there. I've conquered the problems with squirrels with baffles. I did have Morning Glories growing up one of my poles, but I had to pull it out as I found a cat hiding under it one day. JV> The spilled seed makes for some strange p[lants growing under JV> it. One of 'em looks like wheat. It has tons of seeds. I let JV> it grow 'till the squirrels strip it, then I pull it up by the JV> roots. I have that problem with the mixed seed also and have to keep weeding. Squirrels are not my friends and I try to give them as little reason as possible to visit my yard. I'm surrounded by huge Oak trees, so you can imagine how many there are in my neighborhood. --'-,-{@ Rita ... A squirrel is just a rat with good PR... --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Nude Beach Party (1:141/356) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: F5I00002 Date: 05/13/98 From: JOSEPH RAMPOLLA Time: 05:12pm \/To: GARY AILES (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Sevin GA> I hit one of my Jerry Baker books, and his recommendation for both GA> pests on roses is to keep them clean. Taking your garden hose with a GA> pressure nozzle on the end and spraying them over, being sure to get GA> the underside of the leaves, washing away the aphids and JB's. Just GA> be careful not to break the plant with the pressure of the water. GA> I've never had a problem with JB's, but this is the method I use for GA> aphids on my tomato plants. Hi Gary, Thanks for the reply and info! I will keep your advice in mind for all my pest problems with aphids! Happy gardening! Take care, Joe. * SFEMB 0.53 [TS90002] * BBS TCode: 254AV - The Firehouse (717)633-9202 * Hanover,PA --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: THE FIREHOUSE BBS - HANOVER,PA 717.633.9202 (1:2700/911) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: F5J00000 Date: 05/12/98 From: SANDRA PEAKE Time: 12:51pm \/To: CAROL SHENKENBERGER (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Weed tip for driveway CS>SP> Cheaper yet is boiling water, and a side benefit is that runoff CS>SP> wouldn't acidify other areas. CS>Humm. Idea, but it will cost me more to boil the water, and in my city CS>plot, the runoff goes to the sewer system from the driveway. CS>Naw, sorry, will stick with vinigar. the runnoff only hits things we want CS>to kill. It's also envorinmentally as safe as boiling water, but doesnt CS>have me trucking hot pans across the house and out to the yard (which CS>could cause damage if I tripped over a cat and hit a kid or another cat). There's always those risks to consider, Carol. But up here, even cheap vinegar costs more than hydro to boil the water (several kettles of water, in fact). I've also seen propane flamers used to burn off weeds, but I don't consider this method as environmentally safe as the water OR the vinegar. Propane is a hazardous material. :-) ...Sandra... --- * QMPro 1.52 * (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Fire Pit BBS Paris Ont (519)442-1013 (1:221/1518.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: F5J00001 Date: 05/12/98 From: SANDRA PEAKE Time: 07:47pm \/To: BIRDMAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Sorry, Don, ... B>vigorously, the end result being that it will eventually choke the clover B>out. Sure, while the lawn is still thin, the clover may be bigger and B>healthier, but this is something that simple mowing will manage. In a video on low input (year-round pasture) grazing systems, New Zealanders demonstrated how, starting with native brush and sheep, by controlling the amounts of time and frequency of grazing, in 5 years they could turn native brush into a thick carpet of grass. Changing the times and duration of grazing, in another 5 years, they could have the thickest lushest clover pasture anyone could wish for, provided they spread lime on the fall pastures at least once every 5 years. That little demonstration revealed that how short you clip the grass (pasture, lawn) and how often has a direct effect on the relative strength of the sward. Now I realize how simply leaving grass 2 inches high, and mowing a bit oftener, will kill crabgrass within a couple of years by shading its roots. And a strong lawn grass will kill clovers when the mowing schedule favours grass over clovers. B> It's funny, when you *want the clover to grow, as in my case, it proves B>much more difficult than those cases in which you *don't. Yeah, especially when you're trying to keep enough clover for finicky goats in the pasture, and they're the first plants they demolish! :-( ...Sandra... --- * QMPro 1.52 * Gotta Go: I took an 8-hr. cold cure 7.9 hours ago --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Fire Pit BBS Paris Ont (519)442-1013 (1:221/1518.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: F5J00002 Date: 05/13/98 From: DON DODSON Time: 10:17am \/To: WL SAKOWSKI (Read 2 times) Subj: Sevin WS> The *best* preventative for Japanese Beetles is a natural WS> bacteria that is applied to the area (and it does need to be WS> the general area, as they fly ... and eat as they go! :) It is WS> available at most garden shops/nurseries. Bob, this bacteria is called Milky Spore Disease. If the neighbor doesn't also treat their yard, the flying beetles do the visit to the neighbors yard and feast up on fine dinners. Another control for Japanese Beetles in this area are Beetle Traps. The traps have an entrance that the beetles are attracted to via a beetle loving scent, and when they enter the trap, they fall into the bottom of the trap from which there is no escape. Needs to be emptied on a regular basis as a half gallon of beetles can be collected each day, depending on the amount of infestation. =Don= --- TriToss (tm) 1.03 - #28 * Origin: PC GARDEN BBS * Gibsonville NC (City of Roses) 336-449-7857 (1:3654/18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: F5J00003 Date: 05/13/98 From: DON DODSON Time: 11:31pm \/To: BIRDMAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Gee ... B> to say that your suggested method is wrong (as you are with ours). I B> in my original response I made the same suggestion. What we are, how B> saying is that your scope of experience, or perhaps expertise, is lim B> as to exclude other methods, including that suggested by WLski. B> And I'll bet my 10 acres of clover, which I've been learning to c B> vibrant growth, against your dictionary any day. Lighten up there Byrd Man. Clarification has been posted as I mis-understood Bob's original post. As for my experience level in gardening is concerned, it is my feeling that if I don't learn something every day, then it is time for me to walk on water. If I chose to read about a subject that is part of the learning process. When there are those that wish to argue with me, and feel I will argue back, then I break out supporting data to emphasize my point. I do not argue with anyone. Incidently, my father-in-law and myself have a money losing hobby we try to take care of, COWS! We mow, rake, and bale around 80 arces of jobes mixture of Fescue, Lespadeza, Clover, and unwanted mess such as Johnson grass, all sorts of weeds. What say we start all over again and start out with a Howdy and end with a, "have a nice day?" =Don= --- TriToss (tm) 1.03 - #28 * Origin: PC GARDEN BBS * Gibsonville NC (City of Roses) 336-449-7857 (1:3654/18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: F5W00000 Date: 05/18/98 From: DON DODSON Time: 03:13pm \/To: WANDA GUIN (Read 2 times) Subj: Petunias WG> I have a question about Azaleas. When we bought our house, there we WG> some azalea bushes already planted. There are a couple of red ones, WG> and one white one. The red ones bloom first, and when they don't WG> produce flowers anymore, the white one will bloom. They all look gr WG> but they just don't bloom at the same time. Is this normal? Wanda, I am the world's worst on growing azalea's I think. Plant the things, baby them with tender lovin care, maybe too much, and they die on me. I got the landscape folks to plant them for me and we'll see if that takes care of the planting episode for me. I have azaleas that bloom the way you have described. Early bloomers, and late bloomers. The varigated azaleas bloom late. Matter of fact they are blooming now while the rest have already bloomed, and have dropped the bloom petels. Happy gardening Wanda. =Don= --- TriToss (tm) 1.03 - #28 * Origin: PC GARDEN BBS * Gibsonville NC (City of Roses) 336-449-7857 (1:3654/18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: F5W00001 Date: 05/19/98 From: BARBARA HAZEN Time: 04:18pm \/To: ART KOPP (Read 2 times) Subj: Re:questionsirds Hi Art -=> Quoting Art Kopp to Barbara Hazen <=- BH> Just a simple question. I have a patch of rhubarb in the garden. If BH> I pick it regularly, can I continue to pick off and use it all summer? BH> I have been told that it is only good in the spring. Thanks in BH> advance. AK> Well Barb in my own personal experience the later into the summer AK> months it seems to get more bitter, this however can be over come by AK> adjusting your recipes.I'm not saying this will always be the case with AK> everyone it depends alot on where you live and how you tend your AK> garden; fertilizers, watering ect...... hope this was helpful and happy AK> gardening! Art:) Well, I don't fertilize at all. Also, my soil is mostly clay. It's really hard to handle. However, I will continue to use the rhubarb all summer thanks to your advice. Thanks again and happy gardening to you as well. Barb and Remi --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Blue Beam MailServer Stoney Creek Canada (1:2424/3120)