--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EDP00000 Date: 09/19/97 From: WL-SKI Time: 05:47pm \/To: BERT (Read 1 times) Subj: Cat & House Plants? ->> *** Quoting Bert Burland from a message to All *** ->> BB> How do I train the old house cat to stop chewing em? ... ->> BB> Anyone with cats & plants coexisting Yes, and it is the chlorophyll in the leaves that they seek (as they use this for digestive purposes, I believe you'll find. It's good for them, just as it does for us :) The simplist thing to do is plant (shade mix) grass seed in a pot, (keeping several going at atime). This isn't the kind of thing that they 'graze' on, ... they just eat alittle now and again. cheers, wls --- * Origin: gn3.gratisnet.com (1:170/302.10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EDP00001 Date: 09/19/97 From: PAUL HALSEMA Time: 04:26pm \/To: JIM VENEDAM (Read 1 times) Subj: RE: hibiscus Jim Venedam writes in a message to Paul Halsema on 17 Sep 97 JV> protect most of the plants. A good freeze does a nice job of JV> trimming a lot of stuff here tho. Yes that's sure true. Helps keep the whole place from getting overgrown. PH> We're probably about due for one (freeze) around here PH> (I'm in Palm Bay, FL also). JV> Small world..... Where abouts are you? Some places get a lot JV> of wildlife. I'm off of Port Malabar Blvd. We have a fresh JV> crop of squirrels, and something is digging up bugs in my lawn. JV> Possum? Raccoon? 'tis getting smaller and smaller. I'm out towards the western edge, just west of Jupiter and north of the C1 canal. We're in a little oak hammock and get all sorts of wildlife here. Before it built up so much we regularly had owls (barred, great horned, and screech) and occasional deer. Spend my waking hours at Harris on Troutman. As for the digging, I'd vote for an armadillo. When they're active they can dig little holes all over the yard. ---Paul * COUNTERPoint 2.3 (QWK) NR * --- @dolphin-bbs.com * Origin: Dolphin BBS, W. Melbourne, FL 407-728-5548 V34+/33.6 (1:374/63) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EDP00002 Date: 09/19/97 From: PAUL HALSEMA Time: 04:32pm \/To: WL-SKI (Read 1 times) Subj: RE: hibiscus Wl-ski writes in a message to Paul Halsema on 16 Jul 97 WS> But, also remember that the family is *very* large, containing WS> some 150 *different* varieties! Some *are* very tender, while WS> there are others that will grow *way* up north! Yes, so I've learned from following this topic. I never knew it was such a large family! How similar are the flowers and plant on the less tender varieties? I understand that at least some of them have a very different flower. Along those lines, does anyone know where the type with dinner plate size flowers grows best? ---Paul * COUNTERPoint 2.3 (QWK) NR * --- @dolphin-bbs.com * Origin: Dolphin BBS, W. Melbourne, FL 407-728-5548 V34+/33.6 (1:374/63) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EDQ00000 Date: 09/14/97 From: HELEN PEAGRAM Time: 09:08pm \/To: SANDRA PEAKE (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: HELLO [1/2] >>> Part 1 of 2... -=> Quoting Sandra Peake to Helen Peagram <=- Hi Sandra! Glad to hear from you. Have posted you a number of times without response and thought perhaps you were ticked off with me. Obviously you didn't get the previous messages. SP> Hi Helen, we've had a good summer, thanks. Practically abandoned our SP> garden, though, and it shows. 6 foot ragweed among the corn. SP> Ka-choo! :-) Since I got the Matt's wild cherry, an awful lot of SP> people have gotten it from me. It's rather surprising how people are SP> willing to put up with its rampant growth because it tastes so good, SP> but that also shows how far modern varieties have come from their SP> sweet beginnings. Glad to hear you had a nice summer. We did a lot of growing from seed this year with the new sun room and it worked out great. Jim has just come down with a cold and I am hoping to avoid catching it. Rampant is right! and we had hundreds of voluntaries as well as the ones we planted. HP>Everyone loves them and you only need a couple to keep a family supplied HP>most of the time. SP> I put 5 or 6 plants inside cages, and eat them like candy everytime SP> I head into the garden. Since the mice and crickets prefer Brandywine SP> hands down (and heavy fruit down at mulch level), I am harvesting SP> the Wild Cherries and freezing them whole. Their skins are so tender SP> that when I drop a handful into soup, the skins seem to disappear. SP> They cause me no problems whatsoever. Hmmm, Jim suggested it, so perhaps I will try that too. SP> Another heirloom tomato that I'm pleased with is Crimsonvee. (OK, so SP> it was a commercial offering not too many years ago. :-)) The fruits SP> have intensely coloured interiors, and the fruits are quite solid SP> and meaty, great for sauces. I do skin these ones. Hmm, what size tomato are they. We tried Oxheart and they tend to split very easily, but saved some seed because they are so meaty. HP>I also managed to grow 6 "Pretty in Purple" from seed and will be saving HP>them again this year. SP> I still have the original plant from seed that I started 18 months SP> ago. At times, like now, it looks pretty ratty and almost dead, but SP> if I prune off the withered fruits and dead tips, and judiciously SP> feed and water it, it seems to always come back. (I've saved seeds, SP> just in case.) However, it's too hot for my family; they're cowards SP> about stuff that stings eyes and mouth. I am glad to hear about pruning them back because I was just going to try that. One plant has just put out a bunch of new flowers. I tried making a sort of sauce with just marinating the peppers in wine, but haven't had the nerve to try it in cooking yet. HP>This year we grew "early girl", "oxheart" and the standard "beefsteak" HP>tomatoes. I have been using the dehydrator instead of canning them and HP>do hope they work well for what I use them for. SP> I've been going to dry some, but my ambition exceeds my ability - SP> and my ambition is at a low ebb during allergy season. I made a small SP> batch of salsa the other day - wouldn't mind a couple dozen jars, SP> but between slow ripening and voracious mice, the tomatoes are very SP> slow. And we've had light frost already. After this downpour ends, I SP> hope the garden dries enough for me to do some more harvesting before SP> I lose ambition or get frosted out entirely. Do you make green tomato mincemeat? That's what I do with all my end of season green tomatoes. We really like it. HP>I grew some red sweet shepherd peppers from seed I got from peppers I HP>bought from the store and they are doing well too. SP> I grew about 6 varieties of peppers, but while we were away on SP> vacation (first summer vacation in many years), drought, mice and >>> Continued to next message... --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 * Origin: Salata * Redondo Beach, CA * 310-543-0439 33.6k (1:102/125) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EDQ00001 Date: 09/14/97 From: HELEN PEAGRAM Time: 09:08pm \/To: SANDRA PEAKE (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: HELLO [2/2] >>> Part 2 of 2... SP> weeds almost did them in. Watering saved them when we returned, but SP> that crop was withered and tiny, despite a thick mulch. The new crop SP> looks much better. One that has done well is Lipstick, a sweet red SP> Shepherd-shaped pepper, much better than the fancy bells. And the SP> Delicias hot pepper gives a much more attractive fruit than SP> Jalapenos, but WOWEE! I used only the tip of one in some soup, and my SP> hubby wouldn't finish his bowl. I throw my peppers in the freezer whole and they work great in most recipes i use them in. I like the pretty in purple as a house plant but we're not into hot peppers either. HP>Hope you and Jim are both well. SP> Other than claiming I'm trying to poison him with hotstuff, and SP> despite seasonal allergies, we're doing as well as can be expected, SP> thanks. How are you and your Jim faring? Well, I hope. We had a wonderful summer as Jim's daughter, whom he has not seen since she was 6 months old, came with her husband and our two grand daughters to visit for 3 weeks. We all got along famously and I was in tears when we saw them off back home again, but Jim still had some vacation time left so we are going over at Christmas for 3 weeks to visit them. I am as well as usual but as I said, Jim has a cold right now. My son is getting married in 2 weeks and I was at a shower for my future daughter in law today. Glad to hear you are both well. Did you enjoy your vacation? Helen WWWWW ( * * ) +-----------oOOO---^---OOOo-------------+ | The Mom | | INET: mom@hwcn.org | | | |NETMAIL: The Lunch Box (1:244/426) | +---------------------------------------+ --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 * Origin: Salata * Redondo Beach, CA * 310-543-0439 33.6k (1:102/125) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EDQ00002 Date: 09/15/97 From: MARIA EDELHAUSEN Time: 08:29pm \/To: DIANE BRUCK (Read 1 times) Subj: WELCOME!!!!!!!! Hi, Diane! Zaterdag 30 Augustus 1997 Diane Bruck wrote to Maria Edelhausen: Sorry for not replying earlier. I got your msg about a week ago, but lost it out of my eyes due to all the replies I got to my question about" How quick FIdonet goes ..." Since then msgs are coming quicker in here. DB> HI !!! My family visited there many years ago. We were mostly in DB> Mones, Belgium with my brother and his family. He was in the Army DB> stationed at the NATO Base. WHAT A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY..!!!.. Whoow it's fine to read that you liked our country a lot. I know that many American are at the NATO base in Mons, but there are still other places where the US-Army is, here in Belgium. DB> Welcome aboard here at DB> Portland, Oregon USA... If you receive a memo from a Ronda Eikenberry DB> that is one of my daughters that were there also. So you live in the capital of Oregon! Am I right when I suppose that Portland has a similar climat as we have here in Belgium? Or is it already much colder at yours? Belgium has a moderated sea-climat. Do you live in an house with garden or in an apartment? Till now I didn't see the name of one of your daughter in this or another echo. Maybe somewhere later I'll cross them in an echo. DB> What part of Belgium are you living in? I live in the Flanders, more specially in the east of the province Limburg, and our city Lanaken is very close to the Dutch bordertown Maastricht (10 km). Our native language is Dutch. I'm living in an house with a nice garden, full of flowers and vegetables. I like gardening, that's whu I am in this conference! DB> You will really enjoy this conference as there are loads of friendly DB> people here!! What other conferences are you in For sure that I enjoy this conference. I'm already in here since more than half a year. Other conferences/echo's where I'm connected to are : HERBS-N-SUCH, COOKING, ASIAN_LINK, PENPAL (not available in the USA?) and several Belgian (Dutch-writing) echo's. DB> and I DB> wholeheartedly agree that the messages should be left there DB> longer..Maybe someone is on vacation or their computer might have gone DB> down like our and daughters does sometimes. I have another daughter DB> that might even write to you sometimes..... As I told above, msgs are now here in a more normal delay of 8 days and that's much more interesting to stay in a conference. In your second msg you were asking about my favorite floweers. I must say that I'm really fascinated in Passion FLowers, but here in Belgium it's only possible to grow the variety Passieflora Caerulea outside in the soil. Most of the other varieties must be kept in a container and go into the greenhouse during winter. In the garden I've many different flowers so that in each season something is flowering. Some time ago I was making a list of the plants in my garden for th Belgian garden echo. I'll try to find it back and translate it for this echo. Read you later. Greetings Maria --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: INTRO-BBS Lanaken/Belgium- A place to be +32 89732917 (2:292/127.17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EDR00000 Date: 09/20/97 From: WL-SKI Time: 09:25pm \/To: PAUL HALSEMA (Read 1 times) Subj: hibiscus PH> Wl-ski writes in a message to Paul Halsema on 16 Jul 97 PH> ...! How similar are the flowers and plant on the less tender arieties? PH> I understand that at least some of them have a very different flower. PH> Along those lines, does anyone know where the type with dinner plate ize PH> flowers grows best? The rule of thumb I was given was, that the more showier the blossoms, the more tropical they are. The very large ones you refer to, sound like the hardy seeded variety. They tend to be quite hardy (at least some will withstand zones 6&7 winters. How much further north they will go, I'm not quite sure. [but I will look it up] :) cheers, wls --- * Origin: gn3.gratisnet.com (1:170/302.10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EDR00001 Date: 09/20/97 From: WL-SKI Time: 11:04pm \/To: TERRY BARKER (Read 1 times) Subj: HELP ->> "Jerry --what's his name" is Jerry Baker, and he is a ->> wonderful gardener... and his recipes are the tops! TB> If You don't mind sening me the reciepe I would like it also. Don't mind at all Terry... and I will be hopeful that Jerry Baker won't mind either! :) 1 cup liquid soap 1 cup lemon sudsy ammonia 1 cup Listerine (type) mouthwash (I put in a clove of garlic (whole, so it won't clog anything :) I mix this in a quart jar and use as needed. It can be mixed in a spray bottle, 3/4c.mix to 3 c. water in a quart sprayer. *Or*, in a 20 gal. hose-on sprayer (I guess this would be correct, as mine is adjustable.) This is the one I wrote down from Jerry Baker... I have several for different things. For instance, if you are dealing with your lawn, you can add a can of beer, or enough to fill balance of quart jar. If you are waking everything up, for the spring, you can add 1 cup of Epsom Salts, and fill the balance of quart jar with beer. If you are dealing with "bloomers", you can use: 1 cup lemon ammonia 1/2 cup baking powder 1/2 cup saltpeter 3 cups dry red wine 1/4 tsp. active dry yeast Fill the balance with warm tea Once a month add 1 cup of "Bloomer" mix to 2 gallons of water and feed a pint or so to anything that blooms. Of course, this is after new growth is well under way... like 6 inches or so (of new growth). I even use the basic recipe (soap, lemon ammonia, mouthwash) to spray when I know we are going to be in the yard "of a summer evening". Mosquitoes (as with many bugs) don't like the smell of "lemon", so the lemon ammonia is my choice, but regular may be used. As I prefer natural ways of doing things in my garden, (since that is what my garden is, *natural* :) I sort of collect these types of tips. Hope this is helpful. cheers, wls --- * Origin: gn3.gratisnet.com (1:170/302.10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EDR00002 Date: 09/20/97 From: BERT BURLAND Time: 01:42pm \/To: WL-SKI (Read 1 times) Subj: Cat & House Plants? Hello wl-ski! Friday September 19 1997 17:47, wl-ski wrote to Bert: ws> for them, just as it does for us :) The simplist thing to do is ws> plant (shade mix) grass seed in a pot, (keeping several going at With the suggestions I've been getting, I'm putting together a small planter to place in a sunny west window which I'll try to keep sown with grass and catnip seed. Thank's for your ideas. /Bert * Origin: N.W.Texas-USA 10pm-8am CST/0400-1400 UTC (1:3825/24)