--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EBK00001 Date: 07/14/97 From: VICKY BAILEY Time: 12:54am \/To: MARILYN BOISSONEAULT (Read 1 times) Subj: Jalapeno peppers Thanks for the advice. I'll keep all of you that helped me posted on the state of my son's taste buds. Vicky --- GEcho 1.20/Pro * Origin: Rosie's Place BBS! 2400 - 28800bps! (313) 941-0865 (1:2410/520) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EBK00002 Date: 07/15/97 From: HOLLY SULLIVAN Time: 3:133am \/To: MYRA I FOX (Read 1 times) Subj: Gladiolas (and cannas) I think I saw Myra I Fox say to Holly Sullivan on 13 Jul 97 13:30:01: HS> Anyone know anything about whether cannas and glads need to be HS> separated every coupla years? > I had to look this up because of a large bed of them in this house we > bought last year. They are certainly crowded this summer. In the > Time Life Electronic Encyclopedia it says that in zones 7-10 (where > are you now?) they can be left in the ground over winter and dig and > reset every third year. Propagate by dividing rhizomes in spring. Thank you!!! Just what I wanted. I'm in Zone 9, inland San Diego. Today is two years to the day that I came here to live with my sweetie Jeff. :-) As far as the weather goes, it almost never rains here. Stuck between the beach and the mountains on a mesa. It's OK though I prefer the mountains of Appalachia myself. :-) --- DLG Pro v1.16/DLGMail v2.63 * Origin: Techno-Mages Guild * ==> (619) 549-0278 <== * (1:202/720) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EBK00003 Date: 07/14/97 From: BECKY DUNCAN Time: 08:58am \/To: JANIS FOLEY (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Green Peppers My squash are coming on faster than I can pick them. I just finished canning 21 quarts of green beans, 5 pints of applesauce and making my first apple pie of the season! I guess canning season is finally here! :) Still no ripe tomatoes but they are loaded. Hope yours does as well. Cya --- QScan/WC v1.18b / 01-0688 * Origin: * The Pit BBS! \ Parkersburg WV / 304-485-6758 * (1:2210/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EBK00004 Date: 07/16/97 From: BILL CERCHIA Time: 01:52pm \/To: TRUDY SACK (Read 1 times) Subj: squash borer TS > BC> No, if I remember right, it's an insect that lays it's egg on the TS > BC> squash or pumpkin plant itself, right around this time. When the egg TS > BC> starts to grow is when it then burrows into a branch of the plant nd TS > BC> then feeds on the plant. Thats where you get a section of the vine TS >dies TS > Oh, thanks for the info. I will have to start taking a TS >good look at my TS > plants out back and check them daily for this pest. TS > Perhaps spraying with some diazanon would work? But then TS >you can't eat veg. until two weeks time is up. Hi Trudy! Yes, keep an eye on them, everything looks fine till one day you notice a section of the vine starting to brown (die off), if you find that then look right where it's healthy and dieing, slice open the vine at that point and you should find a little white grub. Afterwards if the plant is not in too bad a shape you can bury the cut section in a little dirt and it should be . Bill --- GEcho/386 1.11+ * Origin: The Park ** Weedsport,NY ** USR V.FC 28.8 Line3 (1:260/301) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EBL00000 Date: 07/15/97 From: MARILYN BOISSONEAULT Time: 10:20pm \/To: TERESA VANDERHILL (Read 1 times) Subj: Starting out -=> Quoting Teresa Vanderhill to All <=- TV> I have seriously been considering starting a small herb garden, but I TV> don't really know just where to start. I think my best bet would be TV> to start with a few containers just until I get the hang of what I'm TV> doing. My question is this, what would be the best way to start out? TV> Seeds or plants? Which herbs would be the easiest or the best ones to TV> start out with, seeing as how I'm not real sure about growing herbs and TV> such? I don't have an herb garden as such but in the last few years have started growing more and more of them. I guess it's best to start out small. It depends on the herb whether to start with seeds or plants. Many herbs don't come true from seeds. For those herbs it's best to go around to your local nurseries and just pick up the little herb plants and smell them. Oregano is one that comes in many variations, some have little or no flavor and other are very flavorful. If you want to grow oregano smell it first, if it smell like pizza then it's probably a good strain. If the smell is faint or not quite right pass it right and look elsewhere. Also many herbs are very invasive and if you plant in the ground they'll take over. I grow oregano, mints and those kind in pots. Basil is easy to grow from seeds and comes in many varieties too. It's tender to frost. I have a rosemary plant that has been in the ground for several years, it's very ornamental...but further north you'd need it in a pot to bring in every winter. Dill is one you grow from seeds, and if you let it go to seed you'll never have to plant it again. It will reseed year after year. I usually let several of them grow in my veggie garden each year. As a rule herbs are easier to grow than veggies. They don't need near the care. Many of them grow with neglect! I'm not sure if that's much help or not. Hope it's a little help at least. Marilyn ... Trees are the number one cause of forest fires. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: Space Coast REACT, Melbourne FL <407> 255-9069 (1:374/710) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EBL00001 Date: 07/15/97 From: MARILYN BOISSONEAULT Time: 10:20pm \/To: TRUDY SACK (Read 1 times) Subj: white flies -=> Quoting Trudy Sack to All <=- TS> Does anyone know what to do with teeny, tiny white flies? I've TS> noticed that I'm starting to get a raft of these on my garden plants. Try to nip those in the bud or they're ruin your veggies. If they build up your tomatoes too bad, the tomatoes lose their flavor and taste funny.An insecticidal soap like Safer soap spray is a good choice, it's gets them and also is organic. You can spray up to harvest. You will probably have to spray several times to get rid of them. Pyrethrum is another one that will get white fly and is also organic. There are some other sprays that work too, but I don't remember which ones. When you disturb them they'll start flying. For best results lightly wet the top of the leaves, them spray the undersides where they are. Then if you miss when they land on the top side you'll have gotten them! Hope that helps. They can be a real problem if you get a heavy infestation. I've found that kale is one place they can really build up in and it's hard to get spray to them will the curly leaves. Good luck. Marilyn ... Life is full of undocumented features. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: Space Coast REACT, Melbourne FL <407> 255-9069 (1:374/710) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EBL00002 Date: 07/16/97 From: JANIS FOLEY Time: 05:59pm \/To: BECKY DUNCAN (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Green Peppers > My squash are coming on faster than I can pick them. I just finished > canning 21 quarts of green beans, 5 pints of applesauce and making my > first apple pie of the season! I guess canning season is finally here! > :) Still no ripe tomatoes but they are loaded. Hope yours does as well. Thanks! My husband wants to try canning... but has no idea how... Is it difficult? I wanted to try making pickles too... Is that difficult? Chat with ya later! Janis :) --- System Support BBS * Origin: System Support BBS (1:202/1609) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EBN00000 Date: 07/17/97 From: JOSEPH FERENCHIK Time: 06:15am \/To: HOLLY SULLIVAN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Gladiolas (and cannas) -=> Quoting Holly Sullivan to Melvin Hatcher <=- about Gladiolas (and cannas) on Mon 7 Jul 97 18:11. HS> think I saw Melvin Hatcher say to All on 07 Jul 97 00:32:06: HS> Anyone know anything about whether cannas and glads need to be HS> separated every coupla years? HS> ! Origin: Techno-Mages Guild * ==> (619) 549-0278 <== * (1:202/720) Well your origin line gives no indication of your geographic whereabouts but here are some general guidelines about the Canna's... First and foremost they're supposed to be pulled every fall after they get hit by a good frost and turn into parchment paper, if you live in an area that gets freezing temps in the winter. What I do is wait a couple of weeks till after the clinging soil has a chance to dry after they have been pulled, and then divide the clumps. By giving the divisions a chance to dry and scab over before being put back in the ground I feel that the chance of having a clump rot on you because of the soft spot is greatly lessened. This I surmised by experience. Now one fall I thought that I had all of them pulled, and actually had one come up the next year where I had them planted the previous year. This has made me wonder of the validity of the fall pull claim at least for the Chicago area. Now in an area that doesn't regularly see temps that dip really low the general guideline for dividing is that it only needs to be done when you notice a fall off of production, or in the case of the plant that grows in a ever increasing ring (with the center dying out), when it reaches the boundary you've got set for it. Just remember that these are general guidelines for this. Some plants actually produce better the more cramped they are (up to a point). For best results read growing/cultivation articles that are specific to your species. Good luck and happy "G"! Joseph Ferenchik @FidoNet.org(1:2222/103) ... HEY! Who took the cork off my lunch! ~~~ ReneWave v2.00+ --- BW/RW/RG/GE/FD 2 YOU * Origin: Intercept Vector BBS New Lenox,Il (815)485-9808 (1:2222/103) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EBN00001 Date: 07/18/97 From: THURSTON ACKERMAN Time: 07:58pm \/To: MIKE MCDONALD (Read 2 times) Subj: Container Gardening MM> > produce some blossoms (I heard one nationally accepted agronomist warn that plants that were too satisfied with much green leafage would not feel threatened enough to attempt to reproduce 8-); MM>oh great! psycho-babble horticulture! i suppose this same agronomist also suggested that plants that would not produce chose not to produce because th had some serious "attachment issues" and couldn't stand the thought of being separated from their fruit. }8) I take due note of your modifying }8-) Mike. I think I probably should have been more respective of the departed and identified James Underwood Crockett, eminent horticulturist, graduate of University of Massachusetts Stockbridge School of Agriculture, with consideable experience in California, New York, Texas and New England; and guide to many of we weed-pullers through his excellant PBS-TV series of some years ago (about the same time Julia Childs showed us how to boil H2O and crack eggs 8-). He was not without humor, but seldom trivalized good horticulture practices. MM>personally, i have always thought it a bad idea to attribute emotions to plants. I am reminded of the chap who was admired for his really delicious blush-red tomatoes. When his neighbor enquired how he managed this feat; he responded that every morning, after taking his shower he came down in his shower robe and stood with it open before his plants in the warm sun light for a little while. When he asked his neighbor a few weeks later if she had had any success with his procedure; she replied her tomatoes had not been very appreciative but her cucumbers had developed quite markedly 8-). Ciao, Ack. --- * SLMR 2.1a * If Satan ever loses his hair, there'll be hell toupee. * Origin: SKYLINE BBS (617)361-1242 U.S.A. Mail Feeds Available. 1:101/580) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EBP00000 Date: 07/18/97 From: TERESA VANDERHILL Time: 09:56pm \/To: MARILYN BOISSONEAULT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Starting out MB> As a rule herbs are easier to grow than veggies. They don't need MB> near the care. Many of them grow with neglect! MB> MB> I'm not sure if that's much help or not. Hope it's a little help MB> at least. It has been a help, Marilyn. Thanks so much. Our backyard doesn't lend too much for a garden, hence the questions about the container garden. We have one room upstairs that I'd love to put plants in, but I just haven't gotten around to that point yet. I thought I'd get advice first, and perhaps by ext spring I'd know what direction to head in. I will take your advice and head to a nursery to see what they have. I'm very familiar with dill. My mom ade homemade dill pickles almost every year when we lived in West Virginia. Teresa * Origin: Dragons Realm BBS - Wayne, MI (313)722.8208 V34 (1:2410/224)