--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA400005 Date: 05/14/97 From: LINDA TAYLOR Time: 11:41pm \/To: AUGUST ABOLINS (Read 2 times) Subj: Sprouts! *** Quoting August Abolins to K. Lindholm dated 05-12-97 *** > Same experience here. I never realized that they would blossom until > one day I noticed tall glasslike extensions. Indeed the plant was > extremely crowded by then. Most flowering plants do require crowded conditions to bloom. In other words the roots need to be rootbound before the plant will attempt to reproduce by producing flowers and then seed. Which is to say that the plant feels that it's life span is, because of the crowded conditions and the competition for nutrients, limited, and that it is time to ensure the survival of the species by reproduction. Since most seeds float off, get carried off, or are eaten and transported to another location then the plant is then ensured survival in another place which is bound to be less crowded. At least through it's offspring. Of course this isn't always the case. Some plants have to have optimal conditions before they will flower. But these plants are rare. Bright Blessings Kat --- GEcho/32 1.20/Pro * Origin: VETLink #60 - 554CES(HR) (1:374/37) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA400006 Date: 06/03/97 From: LINDA TAYLOR Time: 12:02pm \/To: SERGE CYR (Read 2 times) Subj: Garden on a roof I know that this was written some time ago, but I've not been on for about a week. Okay....first of all it doesn't matter what sort of roof you have the dirt that it takes to grow plants will damage it if it's allowed to lay right on it. Even if it's structurally sound right now. So we have to take the time out to think about this again. I'm not saying you can't have the garden. Only that you can't put it on the roof itself. There are whole gardens made with...dare I say it.....pots. Up until the time we had to have a new roof put on the sundeck upstairs I used to grow my plants in pots up there. They liked being so close to the sun, they kept the place green and pretty, and we both benefitted. Now they have to be grown at ground level, and they don't do as well as they did then. The key is to get yourself a good book on container gardening. The Japanese actually mastered container gardening long ago. Example is the Bonsai. Which is grown in a shallow pot, and which is kept miniaturized so that they can have them in small spaces. Imagine a huge pine tree shrunk down to fit into a tiny shallow dish! You can buy all sorts of miniature plants that go well in planters. Miniature Japanese maples, apples, pines, azaleas, citrus, and pomegranates. These all do very well in confined spaces like pots. Not to mention bamboo. And most flowering plants are shallow rooted anyway. You can even have roses! Just this year I found a rose that wasn't a true miniature as it had alot of the characteristics of a full sized rose, but it was larger than a miniature. It also has the characteristics and needs of a larger rose in all but the depth it has to be grown in. In other words this is one rose that can be grown in a good sized pot and be perfectly happy. A container can be anything from a large pot to a shallow tray built to sit just up off of the floor on feet. You can buy, or make, them with drip trays so that the water doesn't drip right onto the floor, and you can string them with watering systems. There are few indoor shopping malls that doen't have some plantings in them. For good reason. They help to keep the air clean, give the illusion of coolness and wide open spaces, and make people more condusive to spending green money. It's a psychological thing. Still those plants have to have specific conditions to grow. Next time you are there check them out. A good book on container gardening is essential before you even begin. In it you will find examples of planters, how to make them, the types of plants that like to live in containers, etc. It can be a real eye opener. Bright Blessings Kat --- GEcho/32 1.20/Pro * Origin: VETLink #60 - 554CES(HR) (1:374/37) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA400007 Date: 06/03/97 From: BUD SHERLOCK Time: 10:31pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: aloe vera Hi to All I have some pot bound aloe vera plants that I was thinking of putting in the garden for the summer. Can someone tell me the ideal conditions for these plants to be growing in. sun/shade, wet/ dry, minimum temperature they can handle. I am located on the north shore of Lake Superior. Thanks Bud -- SPEED 1.30 #2187: . --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff238/x] * Origin: OnLine Now Thunder Bay ON, Canada (807)-345-1531 (1:229/510) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA500000 Date: 06/04/97 From: JEREMIAH GAEFKE Time: 12:01am \/To: LINDA MILLER (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Arthritis treatment? On or about 31 May 97 03:55:19, Linda Miller said something about "Arthritis treatment?" to All. My reply: LM> Anyone know anything about an arthritis treatment called LM> Medi.Zymen, is it available in the states? if not where? LM> LM> Do you know if it is effective? LM> LM> (Not sure of the spelling...) LM> LM> I am asking the information for a friend. Any input will be LM> greatly appreciated. LM> LM> Thank you. LM> Linda Miller My mother sells a formula that consists of certain vitamins and knox gelatin. The price is about $75.00. If you are interested, you can contact her at Gaefkes@sgi.net. I hope that you will inquire about it. It is a very amazing formula. --- Renegade * Origin: LOTL/2 * 412 746 3592 * lotl2.slip.lm.com * USofA (1:129/230) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA500001 Date: 05/31/97 From: MARIA EDELHAUSEN Time: 11:17pm \/To: DONALD CLAYTON (Read 2 times) Subj: A programed garden Hi, Donald! on 21 May 1997 Donald Clayton wrote to Maria Edelhausen: DC> Western United States. I call it a "programed garden," because I have DC> it planned so there is something blooming all the time (except in winter DC> of course). Can tell you that I've also what you call a "programed garden". I've tried to have all the time some flowers in the garden, even in winter (jasminum nudiflorum) DC> In spring, tulips, jonquils,and pansies liven up my yard, with DC> clusters of grape hyacinths here and there. By the time they have DC> finished blooming, the irises and big orange poppies have come on. DC> They last throughout early June. Here in the garden spring starts with crocussus and snowdrop, followed by above bulbflowers (till now without pansies) and primula's, muscari. As poppies, we've at this moment some big red ones. Further now there is blooming the peony, campanula glomerate + others, ladyy's mantle, the roses start to bloom, some kinds of geraniums, Tradicentia blue & white, heuchera, delphinium, clematis, .... don't know what else. For the summer there are still several others which will follow, there are also be hollyhocks and sunflowers (annuals and others. DC> Then, all, summer long, it's hollyhocks and sunflowers, all the way DC>to autumn. I like sunflowers especially and have several verities of DC> They attract a lot of small finches and other birds which I enjoy as DC> much as I do the flowers themselves. There are also birds visiting our garden. DC> We have a huge garden, here in Salt Lake City, called The Our garden is also all around our house, and in the backjard there is a vegetable garden. It's not a huge garden, but large enough for us. The veggie-garden is now filled with plants and seeds of oignions, lettuce, leak, carottes, celery, beans, tomatoes, cucumbers, cabbages, and a bed of strawberries, which just start to ripen. In a couple days we can eat the first ones from our own garden in this year. DC> Belgium is represented there too. DC> Would you like to tell me about the flowers that are popular there? I'll try to make a list of all plants in our garden, probably with the Latin names, because I don't know all those plants in English. Some even don't have a Dutch name./ Suppose Utah has a warmer climat than Belgium has, om I right? What are generela temperatures at yours? Talk more to you later. Greetings Maria --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: A Belgian Passionflower freak +Andr Rieu fan +32 897 (2:292/127.17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA500002 Date: 06/01/97 From: MARIA EDELHAUSEN Time: 12:00am \/To: TIMOTHY DUEHRING (Rcvd) (Read 2 times) Subj: squirrels Hi, TIMOTHY! On 25 My 1997 TIMOTHY DUEHRING wrote to MARIA EDELHAUSEN: ME>> Now I've a question : are the squirrels you are all talking about ME>> the ones ME>> which live in a forest area or is it a squirrel that lives mostly ME>> in holes ME>> in the sandy ground? TD> I think they are referring to the bushy tailed tree rat variety. If you could give me the Latin name of that rat, I could try to look if it in my books, to know what it looks like. Today I found some nearly ripe strawberries eaten by an animal. It could be a bird, but after all your talking about squirrels, I'm thinking it could also be a squirrel that found my strawberries. I put a net over the plants and hope that I can take myself the strawberries from the plants within one or 2 days. Greetings Maria --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: INTRO-BBS Lanaken/Belgium - A place to be +32 89 732 (2:292/127.17) --------------- ** A related thread FOLLOWS this message. FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA5F2600 Date: 06/05/97 From: TIMOTHY DUEHRING Time: 11:43am \/To: MARIA EDELHAUSEN (Read 2 times) Subj: R: squirrels Maria, ME>If you could give me the Latin name of that rat, I could try to look if ME>it in ME>my books, to know what it looks like. Try this definition: squirrel (skwrel, skwr-) noun 1. Any of various arboreal rodents of the genus Sciurus and related genera of the family Sciuridae, having a long flexible bushy tail and including the fox squirrel, gray squirrel, and red squirrel. Also called tree squirrel. 2. Any of various other rodents of the family Sciuridae, as the ground squirrel or the flying squirrel. [Middle English squirel, from Anglo-Norman esquirel, from Vulgar Latin *scriolus, diminutive of scrius, alteration of Latin scirus, from Greek skiouros : skia, shadow + oura, tail.] The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation. All rights reserved. ME>Today I found some nearly ripe strawberries eaten by an animal. It could ME>be a ME>bird, but after all your talking about squirrels, I'm thinking it could ME>also ME>be a squirrel that found my strawberries. I put a net over the plants ME>and ME>hope that I can take myself the strawberries from the plants within one ME>or 2 ME>days. You are probably right with your 1st assumption in blaming the birds. The netting should deter them. If you find that your delicious strawberries are still being munched upon, I would blame it on slugs. slug slug, terrestrial gastropod mollusk, a form of snail, with a rudimentary shell and a lung for breathing air. Feeding at night, slugs devour both the roots and aerial portions of plants; some species are serious garden pests. The Concise Columbia Encyclopedia is licensed from Columbia University Press. Copyright 1995 by Columbia University Press. All rights reserved. Or as I prefer to call them, Mother Natures buggers. Timothy Duehring tduehrin@execpc.com FIDO=1:154/280 ___ * UniQWK #5098* * Be nice to flamers. They hate that --------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LAST Message In Thread <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA500003 Date: 06/03/97 From: JAMES BALLARD Time: 02:27am \/To: BIRDMAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Oops. -=> Quoting Birdman to James Ballard <=- Bi> over a period of time. Most birds do this about every six months. Bi> Generally, egg production drops significantly or stops all Bi> together during the molt so the longer you can stall the first moult, Bi> the higher the productivity of the bird. Also, egg production is Bi> generally higher during the first cycle (prior to the first moult) and Bi> drops off slightly with each successive moult. That's why most of your Bi> large producers will get rid of their laying stock at about 10-12 Bi> months. (Begin laying at 4 months + 6 to 8 Bi> months to first moult.) People moult, too, although on a slower scale. That's why hair on differen parts of the body are naturally different lengths. It's funny, the more I study science and nature, the more I see in common with animals. Bi> It *is a virus, although the method of introduction may be the Bi> above stated cause. It is believed that properly prepared foods Bi> *should reduce the Bi> risk of the disease being consumed, but hasn't been efficiently Bi> proven. BTW, Oh... I didn't know about specialized strains of the disease. But thanks for the clarification! ... Do your bit to cleanse the gene pool. Die childless. -=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- SLMAIL v4.5a (#2917) * Origin: Pawn To King's Four BBS (1:19/38) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EAA00000 Date: 06/03/97 From: NANCY SANDERSON Time: 09:13pm \/To: DEBBIE WE (Read 2 times) Subj: Thanks for the Info -> Nancy Sanderson and Debbie We where talking about Raised Gardens -> ns> I think that you may wish to plow or rotortill it so that it would be -> ns> easy to work with. Once you work that soil up, then move some of the -> ns> soil away from the edges and put down your border. You can add good -> ns> gardening soil, peat moss or what ever you wish to the soil that has -> ns> been turned over. -> Sounds good to me..How deep should the edges be put down? As for the -> soil..my fiancee works where they make gardening soil..so..we can get all we -> won't of the scrape soil (the stuff has rocks and we have to go though it -> remove them..) so..that shouldn't be much of a problem. Just deep enough to set the first row of treated mini ties in and then add the others on top. You may wish to add 2 on top of the bottom row and that should give you about 8 inches or unless you would like to go 3 high to give you 12 inches. -> ns> I have a neighbour who has half the yard in raised beds. I think rom -> ns> the looks of that back yard, they have raised beds of 4 feet by 16 feet -> ns> and there are about 4 sections of raised beds in that back yard. -> I am glad that you said something about the size. I can see why ow -> that they have them only four feet wide..Makes sense to me. -> ns> The daughter has a bad back as well as to why they did it that way. -> ns> -> Good luck to you in your move and your gardening. -> ns> Thanks and good luck with your gardening and back surgery. -> Thanks back to you..haven't heard when the date of the surgery ill -> be..but soon I hope. -> Let me know how your gardening is going..I will be so glad -> to be able to start doing things again..like playing in the soil! -> (BG) To tell you the truth, we have sold our house so therefore we won't be planting a garden here but will be doin what is called a balcony garden and I am looking forward to that. My sister is giving a couple of balcony boxes and will be planting a few things in those and we have a large outdoor flower pot that we will be taking with us and planting a tomato plant in that for eating purposes only. I do love tomatoes. We will be planting some lettuce and maybe radishes in the balcony boxes for salads or sandwiches. I am not one for wanting a big garden but I do love fresh tomatoes from the garden so therefore I have to be contented with a tomato growing from our balcony. I also have another sister who has a garden in her backyard and my husband is more than welcome to putter in her garden and we will be able to get fresh veggies from her. Take care and happy gardening. Nancy --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Doctor On Board BBS: Niagara's Medical Host for Info (1:247/101) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EAA00001 Date: 06/02/97 From: LINDA MILLER Time: 11:21pm \/To: JUDITH HEATWOLE (Read 2 times) Subj: A tomato question... On (31 May 97) Judith Heatwole wrote to Linda Miller... JH> Quoting Linda Miller (Mon 26 May 1997 00:00) to Sandra Peake: LM> I think, the grandmother being from Bell, W.Va. area LM> named the tomato for the farmer that gave her the seed. Now LM> then, I have discovered another tomato from the LM> Charleston/Huntington areas of W.Va. called Mortgage LM> Lifter, very simular...there are varied names and many JH> I found these at local garden shop yesterday. A couple of them are JH> sitting on the porch as I speak...couldn't get gumption to get JH> them into the ground today 'cause so much preparation is necessary JH> this year. Also, am blue that I'm getting them in so late. Must do JH> it tomorrow between showers before they get potbound. Hey Sis, hmhmhmmmmmmmmm can hardly wait.. I have decided to create a strawberry patch for next year. I hope I don't get into much trouble with different varieties, maybe I will end up with a winner. I have two 40 foot raised rows, used black plastic to help with weeds, runners going everywhere. Tomatoes are in the ground, the weather has been so iffy, with acattered frost just a little over a week ago. Still unseasonably cool. Linda JH> --- timEd 1.01 JH> * Origin: * MyNight Zone * Baltimore MD * USA * (1:261/1191.2) --- PPoint 1.92 * Origin: Kentucky Woman (1:261/1191.5)