--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA200008 Date: 06/01/97 From: CAROL SHENKENBERGER Time: 08:22am \/To: JAMES BALLARD (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Selling crops. *** Quoting James Ballard from a message to Carol Shenkenberger *** JB> Hell, it's the American Way! I wish I could do stuff like that. :) Yup! Meantime, a reminder to any who wrte me. I'll be in Halifax for the next 3 weeks. Time to go to sea again! xxcarol --- Telegard v3.03.b05 * Origin: SHENK'S EXPRESS Norfolk VA 757-486-3057 28.8 Dual (1:275/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA200009 Date: 05/30/97 From: SANDRA PEAKE Time: 10:59am \/To: LEAH ROZHON (Read 2 times) Subj: Weed Killer To: LEAH ROZHON Subject: Weed Killer LR>This much I do know. :-) I decided to try the match thing anyway on LR>half my pepper plants. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, right? A girl after my own heart. I'm all for it as long as you are aware of all the cons...:-) LR>yard waste. I have no special plan for regular feeding except for LR>12-12-12 broadcast on the surface and tilled in before planting in the LR>spring. When I feed me, I prefer real solid food, and guess what? my sandy soil feels exactly the same. I use composted manure and bone meal, plus lime for certain crops, every year on the garden. Now that my critters are gone, I'm going to have to beg manure from my neighbours. LR> SP> A soil test kit removes any doubts and gives you a basis for LR> SP> starting a beneficial soil amendment program. LR>I hear ya. :-) I'll ask about these kits at the nursery and see what's LR>involved. Uncontaminated digging tools, for one. Carefully wash all residues off any trowels, etc so no false readings are obtained, then dig and test. LR> SP> Wanna good recipe for making dirt? :-) LR>Yeah, if it's not a lot of work. I usually just throw the yard waste in LR>a pile and let nature take its course over time. That's pretty good, but great soil is like yogurt - it's best made with an already active culture. So throw a shovelful or two of good topsoil into the heap as you're building it; so that there's some all through it. And if you could steal some bunny (or any) manure and do likewise, that would improve it further. If you have acid soil, which it sounds like, a sprinkle of lime over every foot or two of layers will improve the final product. Just don't go overboard! :-) ...Sandra... --- QMPro 1.52 Captain, we have a Priority One tagline from Starfleet. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Excalibar Police BBS, (519) 758-1173 (1:221/1500.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA200010 Date: 05/30/97 From: SANDRA PEAKE Time: 12:11pm \/To: BOB LOTSPEICH (Read 2 times) Subj: Selling crops. To: BOB LOTSPEICH Subject: Selling crops. BL>"Mad cow" disease was caused by feeding cattle things not in its BL>natural diet, including cow by-products. Cattle are not meat eaters, BL>nor cannibals. Their biological reaction to the unnatural feed BL>ingredients caused the disease. It's a little more serious than that, Bob. Mad cow disease got its start in Britain by feeding scrapie-diseased sheep brains (as offal) as part of the tankage that went into cattle mixtures. Scrapie is now known to be a prion disease, and the prions survive cooking, freezing, and rotting. People who get prion diseases develop fatal brain disorders. Mink have gotten prion disease from infected sheep offal, and when mink carcasses are added to cow feed, the cows have gotten mad cow disease. So the prion jumps species, and is almost indestructible. One young vegetarian who worked in a restaurant in Britain developed the disease; so now researchers are focusing on airborne transmission (which can happen also if contaminated corpses are burned, as opposed to being incinerated). But, you are absolutely correct that this unnatural disease was caused by the unnatural process of adding meat to vegetarian animals' diets. ...Sandra... --- QMPro 1.52 Go away, or I shall taunt you again. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Excalibar Police BBS, (519) 758-1173 (1:221/1500.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA200011 Date: 05/30/97 From: SANDRA PEAKE Time: 12:23pm \/To: JANIS FOLEY (Read 2 times) Subj: A question on seeds... To: JANIS FOLEY Subject: A question on seeds... JF> Hi there! I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to save JF>seeds to be planted for later... Do you dry them first? Or can I get a JF>fresh seed from (lets say a bell pepper or a tomato) and re-plant it ight JF>away? JF> If anyone has any info... I'd really appreciate it! Sure, go ahead and dry them. When they are really dry, package them and store in a cool area. Some people add a packet or two of the little dehumidier granules (the kind packed with vitamins) to the already dried seeds in a small sealed container, then either freeze them, or put in a cool dry place. Seeds surrounded by a fleshy pulp, such as tomato seeds, are best fermented for 3-4 days until a mold covers them, then rinsed off and dried on a saucer. Linda Miller gave good instructions in an earlier post. Certain plants demand fresh seed. Ginkgo is one. Citrus is another. Several times I have found sprouting seeds in stored oranges, grapefuit, etc late in the season. Those have to be discarded or planted immediately. I found a seedling in an apple a couple days ago, about an inch long; so I tucked it into another pot. It's already above ground. :-) ...Sandra... --- QMPro 1.52 THis tagline will self-destruct in 5 seconds..4..3..2..1. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Excalibar Police BBS, (519) 758-1173 (1:221/1500.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA300000 Date: 06/01/97 From: DEBBIE WE Time: 12:9Sam \/To: NANCY SANDERSON (Read 2 times) Subj: Thanks for the Info Nancy Sanderson and Debbie We where talking about Raised Gardens ns> I think that you may wish to plow or rotortill it so that it would be ns> easy to work with. Once you work that soil up, then move some of the ns> soil away from the edges and put down your border. You can add good ns> gardening soil, peat moss or what ever you wish to the soil that has ns> been turned over. Sounds good to me..How deep should the edges be put down? As for the soil..my fiancee works where they make gardening soil..so..we can get all we won't of the scrape soil (the stuff has rocks and we have to go though it a remove them..) so..that shouldn't be much of a problem. ns> I have a neighbour who has half the yard in raised beds. I think from ns> the looks of that back yard, they have raised beds of 4 feet by 16 feet ns> and there are about 4 sections of raised beds in that back yard. I am glad that you said something about the size. I can see why now that they have them only four feet wide..Makes sense to me. ns> The daughter has a bad back as well as to why they did it that way. ns> -> Good luck to you in your move and your gardening. ns> Thanks and good luck with your gardening and back surgery. Thanks back to you..haven't heard when the date of the surgery will be..but soon I hope. Let me know how you gardening is going..I will be so glad to be able to start doing things again..like playing in the soil! (BG) Debbie Give me Amiga or give me death! --- DLG Pro v1.16/DLGMail v2.63 * Origin: ShadowFire_Amiga Honcut, Ca. (1:203/699) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA300001 Date: 06/01/97 From: CHARLES CURRY Time: 07:19am \/To: PATRICK ROSENHEIM (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Weed Killers -=> Quoting Patrick Rosenheim to Charles Curry <=- CC> Weed killers without fertilizer are available!!! Most lawns thru out CC> the US benefit from Fall Fertilization rather than in the spring. CC> Keep looking!!! PR> I am! I am! Large chain stores such as Kmart or Wal-Mart will NOT have specility lawn products. Try your local Seed & Feed store or Lawn & Garden Center. You may want to use the liquid weed killers... just don't spray when the wind is blowing. Some people pull large plastic bags over shrubs while they are spraying. ... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?" --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: B&C BBS Richmond, Va. [DS/HST] (804) 261-1819 (1:264/166.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA300002 Date: 06/01/97 From: CHARLES CURRY Time: 07:19am \/To: SANDRA PEAKE (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: ginkgo seeds? -=> Quoting Sandra Peake to All <=- SP> So here's the pitch: if some kind soul knows where to find fresh SP> ginkgo seeds this summer, and sends them to me, I'll send them my SP> undying gratitude, plus postage. :-) Any takers? Come to Richmond, Va in August. You can pick up off the ground all the seed you need. I would pick them but the smell is to strong & terrible. The fruit smells like rotting cat manure. The reason the tree in the garden center was so high in price is because it is a male tree which does not produce fruit. ... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?" --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: B&C BBS Richmond, Va. [DS/HST] (804) 261-1819 (1:264/166.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA300003 Date: 06/01/97 From: CHARLES CURRY Time: 07:19am \/To: TRUDY SACK (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: worms Earth worms can be purchased at your local fish bait shop. Mulch the soil heavily so the soil will not dry out or your worms will go deep in the soil or die. ... The last thing I saw was this Big Blue Wave! --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: B&C BBS Richmond, Va. [DS/HST] (804) 261-1819 (1:264/166.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA300004 Date: 06/02/97 From: K. LINDHOLM Time: 06:05am \/To: BOB LOTSPEICH (Read 2 times) Subj: Selling crops. Hello Bob! 31 May 97 09:30, Bob Lotspeich wrote to James Ballard: BL> I don't believe the disease is bacterial or virulent. Once the BL> disease was discovered, the meat was not allowed to go to market. I BL> do not know if this was because the meat was infected or because of BL> public rejection (or both). Mad cow disease is almost always fatal to humans. K. --- GoldED 2.42.G0214+ * Origin: Nordic Exposure * (402) 734-0923 @nordic.omahug.org (1:285/43) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: EA300005 Date: 06/01/97 From: JAMES BALLARD Time: 01:43pm \/To: BIRDMAN (Read 2 times) Subj: More farm stuff ... -=> Quoting Birdman to James Ballard <=- Bi> We don't have work animals, although we are looking into the Bi> possiblity of using draft horses to work our land. We've only Bi> humorously looked at the Bi> possiblity of a dairy cow, but once again there's that *big time Bi> commitment to being there to do the milking. Bi> Once we have more horses, breeding them for possible sale animals Bi> is a real possibility. I do curretnly breed exotic birds, but the Bi> market for them Bi> has kind of fallen off. I don't know much about draft horses, other than they were the clydesdales i the ancient Budweiser (i think) commercials. How long does a draft horse live?? Could it possibly be cheaper than a tractor?? As for the cow, I thought you only had to milk twice a day. But I can understand the upkeep i not worth the fresh milk! What birds did you breed?? All the talking bird fascinate me! Did you breed any rainforest species?? ... Avoid hangovers - stay drunk. -=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- SLMAIL v4.5a (#2917) * Origin: Pawn To King's Four BBS (1:19/38)