--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: E3E00002 Date: 03/08/97 From: THURSTON ACKERMAN Time: 04:28pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: planting dalhias ?? For several years I have had considerable success taking my dalhia tubers directly from their winter storage in cool celler moist peat moss and planting them directly into the ground after the danger of frost has passed. My mailman, Bruce, is also a home gardener and finds it useful to take his dalhia tubers out of their moist peat moss several days before planting; so that they are quite dry and may they even have produced a few sproutings in response to the warmth. (Now Bruce is a fine mailman, but I have never seen his garden.8-) So before I take a chance with my tubers I would appreciate some of your possible experiences please. Ciao, Ack. * SLMR 2.1a * Dijon Vu:the feeling you've tasted this mustard before? --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: SKYLINE BBS (617)361-1242 U.S.A. Mail Feeds Available. 1:101/580) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: E3E00003 Date: 03/08/97 From: JIM VENEDAM Time: 08:38am \/To: MICHELE MAURO (Read 2 times) Subj: Flea season... On (06 Mar 97) Michele Mauro wrote to Carol Shenkenberger... MM> Lucy is already sick (cancer) and is losing weight - but I don't know if she's losing weight from the cancer, or from the stress from scratching and all the sores on her neck. she's almost 16 years old and this is the first time she's ever seen a flea too. Fleas are like hemorrhoids, funny as hell provided YOU don't have 'em. I never saw a flea 'till I moved to Florida. They made me feel the ticks in New England weren't so bad after all. My dog died at 17 and the last couple years of her life were miserable in Florida. They've since come out with the flea pills that you give like heartworm medication. Seems to work pretty well. My cousin's dog doesn't seem to be bothered at all. One thing I had good luck with, was Avon Skin So Soft. Some people claim it works, some say it doesn't. Way I figured it, it didn't hurt, and it may have helped. At least me and Silky smelled better. I think the MAIN preventative is to keep the animals indoors. You may be spraying the heck out of everything in sight, but the animals that are out roaming are spreading fleas over everything you just sprayed. Good luck Jimvee ... Japanese Pet Store: "Buy one, get one flea." ___Messenger V1.2 [Reg] --- PPoint 2.02 * Origin: Jimvee's Point. Palm Bay, Florida (1:374/46.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: E3E00004 Date: 03/08/97 From: MARILYN BOISSONEAULT Time: 10:10am \/To: JIM VENEDAM (Read 2 times) Subj: Once again trying -=> Quoting Jim Venedam to Marilyn Boissoneault <=- JV> I can't believe this %$#@ grass. I mowed it once last week, and JV> I wanna put down some weed and feed. Gonna have to cut it AGAIN JV> before I can fertilize. Did you know that TrueGreen-Chemlawn sells JV> dry fertilizer for the do it yourselfer? I'm in luck, our mower is in the shop! Can't mow! With the nice warm weather the grass seems to be taking off real well and the weeds have a head start. I never use weed and feed since I save the grass clippings sometimes for making compost. In fact I've gotten pretty bad about fertilizing the lawn. It grows too fast already! I don't know much about TruGreen -Chemlawn. I know you have to be careful though. Some of the cheaper fertilizers aren't as good. JV> I "harvested" three cherry tomatoes from my clay pot the other day JV> and see that I have about 5 more ready for today's lunch. The clay JV> pots are not good for someone who tends his plants as badly as me. Yeah those clay pots dry out real fast. Lucky you, I've got a long wait before I harvest any cherry tomatoes. I do see a few on the plant though. Marilyn ... Margaritas in a birdbath? Enough tequila mockingbird! ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: Space Coast REACT, Melbourne FL <407> 255-9069 (1:374/710) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: E3E00005 Date: 03/08/97 From: MARILYN BOISSONEAULT Time: 10:10am \/To: MARIA EDELHAUSEN (Read 2 times) Subj: Hello -=> Quoting Maria Edelhausen to Marilyn Boissoneault <=- ME> I can totaly agree with you Marilyn, It's always worth a try anyway. ME> It's thanks to my sysops continiously trying to get this echo again, ME> that we finally after 3 months could read again in this echo. You sure had to work hard to get back in this echo again. Glad you made it! ME> Helen I sincerely hope you'll be able to read this message, which ME> means that you found already another sysop added the echo for you. I think I saw in another message where she had found another source for the echo. Marilyn ... Law of Gardening: You get the most of what you need the least. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: Space Coast REACT, Melbourne FL <407> 255-9069 (1:374/710) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: E3E00006 Date: 03/08/97 From: MARILYN BOISSONEAULT Time: 10:10am \/To: LISA PENNER (Read 2 times) Subj: gardening -=> Quoting Lisa Penner to Marilyn Boissoneault <=- LP> finished, then it kind of straightens out. It just takes so long! My LP> main problem though, is I don't think I'm planting enough peas in the LP> first place! :) There are some things you can never plant enough of! LP> LP> I love herbs, they're just so useful and decorative and most smell LP> wonderful (some are a funny kind of wonderful:) ). And I just don't LP> understand why anyone would want to grow a rose, no matter how perfect, LP> that doesn't smell like a rose? Puzzles me to no end. I know there is nothing more disappointing than smelling a rose and it doesn't smell!! LP> I'm starting to think that's my problem, too. The house is too cool, LP> too dry in winter. I've never had much success with indoor plants. I don't have the right conditions either. When the air conditioning is on the humidity is bad. Then I have an indoor cat. I gave up years ago trying to have houseplants and a housecat at the same time! LP> p.s. where do you live? I live in Central Florida. Marilyn ... Grew caterpillars bigger then my tomatoes once ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: Space Coast REACT, Melbourne FL <407> 255-9069 (1:374/710) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: E3E00007 Date: 03/08/97 From: LEAH ROZHON Time: 11:10pm \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: Kitchen Counters We have a 2 year old house and have had a problem with the kitchen counter that is along the outside wall pulling away in the dry winter months. It seems to move with the seasons. I never had this problem before, but am told it's common. What's the best way to deal with this? It's about 1/4 inch away from the wall at this time and I don't like the way it looks. Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks, Leah ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Star Spawn BBS (1:115/477.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: E3E00008 Date: 03/09/97 From: CAROL SHENKENBERGER Time: 10:05am \/To: MICHELE MAURO (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Flea season... *** Quoting Michele Mauro from a message to Carol Shenkenberger *** CS> Grin, Been there! You have moved to 'flea country' and others MM> outside it just CS> dont understand what we mean when we say 'flea season'. MM> Neither did I until it hit. Yup! Advice from folks outside of *real* flea country will be much milder than your needs (grin). CS> Ok step 1. Take cat to vet/parlor and have them dipped. Do this MM> to *both* CS> cats. This will not eliminate all fleas, but will prevent your cat from CS> getting sick fast as they are already infested. MM> Does this really work better than the OTC flea shampoos? I have found it works better. This may have more to do with how I have been doing it however. Normally I have them dipped while I fleabomb the house. CS> Step 2 is flea bomb house. It is NOT safe for aquariums or MM> gerbils, or anythig MM> Exterminator said this didn't work as it didn't penetrate the carpet MM> and just laid on top. He said to try Raid Flea Plus and if that MM> didn't work, he had a stronger spray (no longer available for sale) MM> that killed them dead. Even with the Raid spray we had to cover the MM> fish tank and remove us, the cats and the gerbils for a few hours. There are many types. Personally I've never paid an exterminator to do this for me. I'm sure whatever he used is just as good or better than the bombs i have been using. CS> Step 3 is vacumn all your house. MM> I've been doing that, plus shaking flea carpet spray on it before MM> vacumming. Good. The borax treatment carpet stuff works pretty good. CS> Step 4 is treat your yard best as you can with a flea product made for he CS> yard. I consider these largely useless but with 1 cat an outdoor type, I CS> suppose you have no choice but to attempt it. MM> Hadn't thought of that, but considering the size of our yard (300ft MM> back to the lake), treating it all isn't possible. But perhaps a MM> heavy layer near the doors and windows. That would do it. Cheaper this time is probably better because after it rains you often have to re-treat. (Advice on yard treatments is vicarious as I have indoor cats exclusively. I'm repeating here what others have said about it). CS> Step 5. Flea collar cats. NEW ONES. They say they last 6 MM> momths or so. They CS> do outside of flea country. They last 3 months where you are at best and CS> alone do nothing). MM> TC could just about use a new one then - Lucy's is brand new - do you MM> find any one brand that works better than any other? I find all the brands the same pretty much. I use Hartz brand mostly because they sell a breakaway type that I feel better using, but when I cant find that break-away type I use what I find. Trick is replace at 1/2 the time it says it is good for in your area. Ignore the ones that say they are 'good for a year'. They arent. Go for the 6 month type and replace at 3 months. This technique will some seasons cause you to miss 'flea season' in your house all together if you had only indoor cats/pets. CS> Step 6. Rebomb house 2 weeks later. MM> I was thinking of doing the Raid Flea Spray a week later - don't they MM> hatch in 7-8 days? Humm. Come to think of it, I set the re-bomb based on the can's directions. You could well be right. The canned bombs render the eggs sterile so the second treatment just kills the live but sterile fleas left to hatch. You can even skip this step and they will die off naturally but I want them all gone faster than that . CS> Step 7, use some flea powder on the cats starting 3 weeks after MM> flea dip but be CS> advised it makes some cats sick. Dont overdo it. Flea powder is MM> a preventive, CS> and not enough if you have visible fleas already. MM> Lucy is already sick (cancer) and is losing weight - but I don't know MM> if she's losing weight from the cancer, or from the stress from MM> scratching and all the sores on her neck. I've applied lanolin MM> anti-itch lotion and have shampooed her several times, but I don't MM> want to overdo it with her... she's almost 16 years old and this is MM> the first time she's ever seen a flea too. Smile, good luck with your lady then. Some of it is due to the fleas I am sure. Oh a cost saving home shampoo that kills fleas: Head-N-Shoulders. Trick the vet told me about. Works just as well as the OTC stuff and less expensive. Check with your vet to be sure it is suitable for your sick cat as he/she may prefer under the circumstances that you use something else. CS> Step 8. repeat as needed. Flea season hits every 6 months or so. .. MM> What surprised me is that we moved here last June but didn't get hit MM> until now. Maybe if I could remember which brand of flea collar I MM> was using _last_ year, I'd know which one worked best. Smile. Works that way sometimes. xxcarol --- Telegard v3.03.b02 * Origin: SHENK'S EXPRESS Norfolk VA 757-486-3057 28.8 Dual (1:275/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: E3E00009 Date: 03/05/97 From: MARIA EDELHAUSEN Time: 09:14pm \/To: MARILYN BOISSONEAULT (Read 2 times) Subj: after trying back into echo Hi, Marilyn! Wednesday 26 Februari 1997, Marilyn Boissoneault wrote to Maria Edelhausen: MB> Hi Maria! Congratulations! This messsage made it to the MB> Home-n-garden echo!! I think your problems are over and you are MB> now connected without a problem. Glad to have you back in the MB> echo, and just in time for spring! Well maybe spring is still MB> aways away for you, but at least you got your problems connecting MB> to the echo worked out before then. Talk to you again soon. I could read above yesterday 4th March, and I hope you got in the meantime also the crash-netmail that I made to your sysop Walt Young on monday 24th February. All seems to be all right now and I could already read a lot. Spring has still to start really here in Belgium. Till soon reading you. Greetings, Maria --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: INTRO-BBS Lanaken/Belgium -That's a place to be (2:292/127.17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: E3E00010 Date: 03/05/97 From: MARIA EDELHAUSEN Time: 09:29pm \/To: JIM VENEDAM (Read 2 times) Subj: Once again trying /Jasmine. Hi, Jim! Tuesday 4th March I saw a message from 27 Februari 1997, written by, Jim Venedam to Marilyn Boissoneault: ME>> As my sysop had again to change from provider, I'm trying once again ME>> if we can come back into the echo Home-n-garden. I hope so. JV> I tried to send a netmail to Maria, asking if she was able to finish the Till now I didn't get any netmail from you, it must have lost somewhere on the mailroute. JV> thread on "night blooming jasmine" I hope she got it. JV> I guess the final answer came from Cj. Where is she? Here I am! Yes I think that the tread on "night blooming jasmine" was finished by the answer from Cj. telling that it should be the Jasmine dichotomum. In the meantime I've been looking into the different plantbooks here in house, but could not find them. Next friday 7 March, I'm going to a meeting of people who also have tropical and subtropical plants in containers and I'll ask there if someone has that Jasmine in one of his books, and maybe there will be someone having a young plant or seeds available. I'd be glad to find out if we can cultivate that plant in a container here in our country. Do you have an idea if that plant can have some little frost or must it be cultivated with minimum teps of 40F (2/3C) JV> ... Thunder? I didn't hear any thunA*(&#@ NO CARRIER Yes we heard some thunder here in a stormy night last week. Greetings. Maria --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: A Belgian Passionflower freak + Andr RIEU fan! (2:292/127.17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 208 HOME & GARDEN Ref: E3E00011 Date: 03/06/97 From: MARIA EDELHAUSEN Time: 11:17pm \/To: HELEN PEAGRAM (Read 2 times) Subj: I'm back Hi, Helen! wednesday 5.Mar.I read a msg that you sent on fri.28 feb. to Sandra Peake: HP> Hi Sandra; HP> Thought I would be losing touch because of the boards going down all HP> around me, but I am getting this echo now direct from California ttached HP> to Email it is much faster and more reliable. TTFN Waaauw Helen, what are you quickly back into the echo, for me here in Belgium it took 3 months before I came back into. Congratulations that you managed it so well. Nearly Spring Greetings Maria --- FMail/386 1.0g * Origin: A Belgian Passionflower freak +Andr Rieu fan +32 897 (2:292/127.17)