--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E2B00004 Date: 02/04/97 From: MICHAEL MCBROOM Time: 09:28pm \/To: ALEC HERRMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Another Newbie Needs Help Hi Alec, MM> I located one, although I regret to admit that I did not write down MM> the name of it. I called Indellible Blue, figuring if anybody would MM> have a book on Warp 4, they would. And they do. It sells for $37 + AH> Yes, please do. The book name, author, cost, ISBN AH> number if possible, and your review of it if desired. Well, your reply arrived before the book did. I hope it will come in tomorrow. I'll post the above information, though. The review will likely take a bit longer. Maybe after I've brought my network up and have successfully shared resources, maybe then, I'll critique the book. AH> Yes, it would likely be quicker to do a complete reinstall. I've been dragging my feed over this. I've been waiting for a level-2 tech support guy to call me back. I finally got a call today, but wasn't here to take it. And the tech left the WRONG phone number on my answering machine. Wonderful. MM> WHAT "Networking" object? I'm gonna have to AH> reinstall, I guess. This AH> You do not have a 'Connections' object on your desktop? AH> The 'Network' object (sorry - not Networking) is AH> inside the Connections object. "Network" I have. Within "Network" I have the "File and Print" folder and the "Network Services" folder. Within the "File and Print" folder, I have this machine defined, and withing the "Network Services" folder I have "Logons," "Shared Resources..." and "Lan Server Admin." Within "Logons" I have "Start File and Print Client," "Logoff," "Lan Server Logon," "File and Print Client Workstation Logon," and "Network User Account." I just clicked on "Shared Resouces." This is one of the objects that, if I clicked on it, nothing would happen, and subsequent applications would stack up in a queue waiting to execute. I had to reboot the machine to clear this. But when I clicked on it this time, a log-in window came up. I was able to complete this successfully, then a "properties" menu popped up. This is the first time this has happened. I wonder if it will work consistently now. Lan Server Admin seems to be working properly too, although I doubt I'll ever use it with this setup. Now if I could just get TCP/IP to come back, maybe I won't have to do a reinstall after all. MM> Aha! Is this what people mean MM> by "Distributed Computing Environments?" AH> Not quite. Distributed Computing is more like the following: AH> 1) You have a program that you run on your computer. AH> You decide that it would be better if you run the AH> program on the server (since it has more 'horsepower') AH> while still performing input and observing output on AH> your computer. AH> 2) Go a step further - instead of just one server AH> running the program, it splits the program up in to AH> related tasks and assigns those tasks to other servers. AH> This is one way Distributed Computing works. Alec, have you thought about writing a book about this? Your explanations seem so clear compared to the other jargon-filled tomes I'm trying to wade through. Regards, Mike --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Paradigm Shift: Home of the UnSpun Truth! (1:103/652) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E2B00005 Date: 02/04/97 From: MICHAEL MCBROOM Time: 09:45pm \/To: FRANK SEXTON (Read 0 times) Subj: Another Newbie Needs Help Hi Frank, MM> I'm having a *big* problem in this regard, though. MM> When I first set up Warp4 on my OS/2-only system, I MM> did not think I'd be using the networking stuff, so I MM> removed most of it. Now that I've decided I really MM> did want it after all, I've been trying to reinstall MM> the networking stuff, and have a really confused mess MM> on my hands right now. FS> If you don't install networking to begin with or if you FS> remove it, the only way I know you can get it installed is FS> to use selective install. This basically takes you through I've tried this. I can't get the TCP/IP objects back. I have found that, on my machine (running an IWill P55TV mainboard with a Pentium 100 and Award BIOS), Warp4's selective install utility has problems. For example, I had to do a complete reinstall of the OS to clear a detection error for my sound card so I could install MMOS2. This problem has reappeared -- this time with a different sound card . . . but that's another story. I know that "selective install for networking" is a different utility, but it doesn't seem to be working any more reliably on this machine. FS> most of the complete OS/2 installation. However you don't FS> loose your existing stuff. BTW, if you look up how to FS> install networking *after* previously installing Warp 4.0 FS> without it in the "getting started" book, it also tells you FS> this same starting point. I didn't make it up (smile). I FS> had to use it on one of my machines too:-). My situation was different, though. I installed it with networking stuff. Then I actually dragged most of the objects I didn't think I'd need into the shredder. I didn't use any uninstall utility -- it didn't occur to me at the time. It seems these objects, once shredded, stay shredded. Regards, Mike --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Paradigm Shift: Home of the UnSpun Truth! (1:103/652) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E2B00006 Date: 02/05/97 From: CHARLES GAEFKE Time: 12:03am \/To: ALEC HERRMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: OS2 Warp 3.0 non_Connect AH> My suggestion is to get the upgrade copy of Warp 4 for your Warp 3 machine AH> should cost around $150 to $200, and you will have an easier time managing AH> machines since they are both running the same software. I have a Warp 3 Connect machine here and a Warp 4 machine. When both ere installed I did not have a network, so I didn't install networking software. Afterward I hooked them up.. and since my Warp 3 machine has a CD-ROM and my Warp 4 machine does not, I installed Peer-to-Peer on my Warp 3, and did a remote install of Warp 3's peer-to-peer on Warp 4. And it's working great. C. Gaefke [lotl2@telerama.lm.com] [CDRMail Author] --- RG0511/CDRMAIL 1.06b * Origin: LOTL/2 * 412 746 3592 * lotl2.slip.lm.com * USofA (1:129/230) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E2B00007 Date: 02/05/97 From: CHARLES GAEFKE Time: 12:03am \/To: PHIL PATTENGALE (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: IPX Protocol? PP> You should just be able to install the Netware client. That should PP> install support for IPX, you'll just not be logging into any NW servers. I believe I've tried that, but I haven't had any success. Any articulars to it? Currently I have TCP/IP and Netbios installed for my "parallel port" (InterNet) and Netbios installed for my 3C509 card. --- RG0511/CDRMAIL 1.06b * Origin: (1:129/230) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E2B00008 Date: 02/05/97 From: CHARLES GAEFKE Time: 12:40am \/To: TONY LANGDON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: IPX Protocol? TL> I'm no Novell expert, but I'd omagine you'd have to install Netware TL> support on your OS/2 boxes... If I use either protocol listed, I get errors in my CONFIG.SYS. C. Gaefke [lotl2@telerama.lm.com] [CDRMail Author] --- RG0511/CDRMAIL 1.06b * Origin: LOTL/2 * 412 746 3592 * lotl2.slip.lm.com * USofA (1:129/230) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E2B00009 Date: 02/06/97 From: DAVID DESROSIERS Time: 01:05am \/To: TONY LANGDON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Connecting OS2 to Samba on Linux -=> Quoting Tony Langdon to David Desrosiers <=- DD> Once that is done, you need to make sure that the Netbios over DD> TCP/ip is running on the OS/2 machine. If you know that's working (i.e. DD> if Peer/Peer seems to function ok), then you should be able to mount DD> the drives with the 'net use \\machine\service' commandline. TL> "net use" commands should work by this stage, but don't expect TL> miracles with browsing. :-) net use x: \\linux97\cdrom produces this output: [C:\]net use x: \\linux97\cdrom NET3502: OS/2 error 53 has occurred. SYS0053: The network path was not found. I run a telnet window on my OS/2 system all the time with 'top s S' n it, and when I run that net use command, a process starts up with the name '/usr/sbin/rpc.portmap' on the Linux machine. The lights on the hub go bonkers, then it fails. I know it's GETTING there, but it's not connecting or resolving for some reason. Ideas? Another thing I found out was that running Office95 under NT 4.0 Server/SP2 breaks SMB and Network Neighborhood. If I use Task Manager to kill MSOFFICE.EXE and FASTFIND.EXE, it works, and then loading up Office95 works fine after that. For some reason, once it's started before the connection (breaks it even when 'Reconnect At Login' is enabled) it fails. Odd little bug... What else should I be looking for? -The Visionary visionary@brazerko.com ... Your need for me has been replaced -- NIN --- WtrGate+ 0.93.PRE6 beta sn 116 * Origin: hacker heaven bbs - #include (1:320/2600) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E2B00010 Date: 02/06/97 From: ALEC HERRMANN Time: 03:46am \/To: MICHAEL ROWLEY (Read 0 times) Subj: OS2 Warp 3.0 non_Connect Hello Michael, Replying to a message of Michael Rowley to Alec Herrmann: MR> Alec Herrmann wrote in a message to Michael Rowley: AH>> 1) IBM Lan Server OS/2 client software. AH>> You can buy a license for the above software; it is a piece MR> Hmm, unless this will be cheap, it will not be worth it... I believe IBM (or an IBM reseller) sells the license for $50. However, you will have to find someone who actually has Lan Server so you can get the actual software. Do not infer this statement to mean that this is indeed a legal approach - I am not certain if you are required to have a Lan Server license in order to legally use the client code. I would like to draw attention to the DLSWIN95 (sp?) code that IBM has posted on their web site for free download: it includes an online agreement where you state that you own a license for Warp Server or Lan Server (as well as the client licenses if I remember right) before downloading the Windows 95 client code. This could lead one to believe that, in general, you should have a server license and client license(s) to use the client code. Regards, Alec --- FleetStreet 1.12 NR * Origin: The Nibble's Roost, Richmond BC 604-540-8048 (1:153/8086) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E2C00000 Date: 02/06/97 From: CHUCK SADOIAN Time: 12:31pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: OS/2 as a router Can either (or both) OS/2 V3 and V4 act as a router to the internet much like what can be done with Linux? I was under the impression that OS/2 COULD do this, but I have been unable to connect my subnet to the Internet through my OS/2 router. Somebody told me that V3 could not do it, but V4 could so I upgraded to V4 but I see no difference. My ISP gave me a subnet (from his pool of available addresses) which am using for my in-house network. My OS/2 machine that is to be the router has two NICs in it, one is connected to my in house network, the other is connected to the ethernet port of their Livingston portmaster terminal server (my ISP has a POP in my office, lucky me). The router machine has full access to both he in-house subnet and the Internet, but from any other machine on my subnet I cannot get access to the Internet, nor can I ping any addresses on my subnet (aside from the router) from an address on the internet. I have tried everthing I can think of to get this to work, and I'm about ready to throw in the towel and switch to Linux, which I am told WILL do the job. Does anyone know for SURE whether or not OS/2 Warp can do what I am trying to get it to do? Thank you, Chuck --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0154 * Origin: MicroLink BBS * Dinuba, CA 209-591-8753 (1:214/80) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E2C00001 Date: 02/06/97 From: ALEC HERRMANN Time: 09:52pm \/To: MICHAEL MCBROOM (Read 0 times) Subj: Another Newbie Needs Help Hello Michael, Replying to a message of Michael McBroom to Alec Herrmann: MM> Well, your reply arrived before the book did. I hope it will come in MM> tomorrow. I'll post the above information, though. The review will MM> likely take a bit longer. Maybe after I've brought my network up and MM> have successfully shared resources, maybe then, I'll critique the MM> book. We will be here waiting. :) AH>> You do not have a 'Connections' object on your desktop? AH>> The 'Network' object (sorry - not Networking) is AH>> inside the Connections object. MM> "Network" I have. Within "Network" I have the "File and Print" folder MM> and the "Network Services" folder. Within the "File and Print" MM> folder, I have this machine defined, and withing the "Network MM> Services" folder I have "Logons," "Shared Resources..." and "Lan MM> Server Admin." Within "Logons" I have "Start File and Print Client," MM> "Logoff," "Lan Server Logon," "File and Print Client Workstation MM> Logon," and "Network User Account." If you do not have a Lan Server or Warp Server machine around, then there is no need for the Lan Server Admin folder. This feature is selectable when you install the networking support in Warp 4. MM> I just clicked on "Shared Resouces." This is one of the objects that, MM> if I clicked on it, nothing would happen, and subsequent applications MM> would stack up in a queue waiting to execute. I had to reboot the MM> machine to clear this. But when I clicked on it this time, a log-in MM> window came up. I was able to complete this successfully, then a MM> "properties" menu popped up. This is the first time this has MM> happened. I wonder if it will work consistently now. The properties window is where you define your shares (to which other peers/servers can connect), connections to other peers/servers, usernames/passwords that can access your machine, permissions of those user, groups, etc. MM> Now if I could just get TCP/IP to come back, maybe I won't have to do MM> a reinstall after all. Get your Warp 4 CD, go to x:\CID\IMG\TCPAPPS and run the INSTALL.EXE program. This will install just TCP/IP on your machine. MM>> Aha! Is this what people mean MM>> by "Distributed Computing Environments?" MM> Alec, have you thought about writing a book about this? Your MM> explanations seem so clear compared to the other jargon-filled tomes MM> I'm trying to wade through. Heh heh - thanks for the compliment. Nope, no book at this time. Perhaps when I am older and greyer (and perhaps wiser? :) ) and have already done the fun things in this world. Regards, Alec --- FleetStreet 1.12 NR * Origin: The Nibble's Roost, Richmond BC 604-540-8048 (1:153/8086) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E2C00002 Date: 02/06/97 From: ALEC HERRMANN Time: 10:01pm \/To: CHARLES GAEFKE (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: OS2 Warp 3.0 non_Connect Hello Charles, Replying to a message of Charles Gaefke to Alec Herrmann: AH>> My suggestion is to get the upgrade copy of Warp 4 for your Warp 3 AH>> machine should cost around $150 to $200, and you will have an AH>> easier time managing machines since they are both running the same AH>> software. CG> I have a Warp 3 Connect machine here and a Warp 4 machine. When CG> both were installed I did not have a network, so I didn't install CG> networking software. Afterward I hooked them up.. and since my Warp CG> 3 machine has a CD-ROM and my Warp 4 machine does not, I installed CG> Peer-to-Peer on my Warp 3, and did a remote install of Warp 3's CG> peer-to-peer on Warp 4. And it's working great. :) Yep - that is just how I have my home net setup - Warp 3 Connect on the slower BBS machine, and Warp 4 on my personal machine. The fellow to whome I originally wrote my reply above does not have Warp 3 Connect - just Warp 3. If I was going to upgrade my software, I would likely upgrade Warp 3 to Warp 4 unless I was able to get a copy of Warp 3 Connect at a good price. Regards, Alec --- FleetStreet 1.12 NR * Origin: The Nibble's Roost, Richmond BC 604-540-8048 (1:153/8086)