--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E1H00001 Date: 01/11/97 From: FRANK SEXTON Time: 05:37pm \/To: HUGH OHARE (Read 0 times) Subj: Networking -=> /* Quoting Hugh Ohare to Frank Sexton */ <=- FS> support a LAN local logon too. HO> How have you found PC-Board-OS/2. I like it. HO> Do you know of a source in the U.K. Hopefully you can get to http://www.pcboard.com. PCBoard is not shareware however, it is a commercial product. BTW, I lived in Brackley England for 3 years (1983-1986). It's about 10 miles north of Oxford. I also visited Ireland (Mullogh) and found a whole town full of my relatives. Had lotsa fun! -Frank (fsexton@concentric.net - http://www.concentric.net/~fsexton) --- Blue Wave/OS2 v2.30 * Origin: Wildcard BBS,Thornton,CO HST/V34+ +1-303-252-0491 (1:104/725) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E1H00002 Date: 01/11/97 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 05:47am \/To: TERRY COLLINS (Read 0 times) Subj: warp 3 networking to linux It's 08 Jan 97 20:03:32, We'll return to Terry Collins and Tony Langdon's discussion of warp 3 networking to linux TC> Using an example of a C class network, if I wanted to break it into TC> four subnets, this is what I expect the set up of netmask & broacast TC> would be; TC> sub 1 0 - 63 x.y.z.0 is netmask, x.z.y.63 is broadcast, TC> sub 2 64-127 x.y.z.64 is netmask, x.y.z.127 is broadcast, TC> sub 3 128-191 x.y.z.128 is netmask, x.y.z.191 is broadcast, TC> sub 4 192-255 x.y.z.192 is netmask, x.y.z.255 is broadcast TC> Now, to me, this means that sub 1 & 4 are unusable as TC> x.y.z.0 really is the netmask for the C class net x.y.z and TC> x.y.z.255 is really the broadcast address for the C class address TC> x.y.z In effect, the class C doesn't exist, you have 4 "sub class C nets". If the router is routing all 4 voa the same interface, it would look like: route add -net x.y.z.0 netmask 255.255.255.192 eth0 route add -net x.y.z.64 netmask 255.255.255.192 eth0 etc etc No class C, and the netmask used here ensures correct broadcast addresses. TC> From my HP training if you break you C class into four subnets, TC> you only get two usable subnets, the highest and the lowest TC> can not be netmasked. Not with modern software. It will work fine. :-) TL> All four subnets can be used. Each subnet will have the same netmask TL> (255.255.255.196), but you'll lose the first and last IP address of TC> Sorry, but this doesn't make sense. Each subnet must have a different TC> netmask. How otherwise does a router know where to send a message? Because the network addresses are different. Netmasks are used to determine the broadcast address... Remember, every class C has the same netmask (255.255.255.0). Does this stop you routing for multiple class C's? TC> Unfortunately, the explanation ended there in the copy of the TC> course workbook that I have. :-) TC> A netmask of 255.255.255.248 sounds like you are taking the 7/8th TC> of the C class license. no, 1/32 TL> I'm splitting it into 32 subnets of 8 addresses (actually, someone TL> else did the splitting, I'm just using what I was allocated). TC> Okay, now that I've really switched the thunking cap on, it makes TC> sense and fits in to what I expect. I assume you do not now have TC> a subnet boradcast address. I do. I think you're confusing netmasks with broadcast addresses, re-reading your post. ... I locked my coathanger in my car; good thing I had a key. --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E1H00003 Date: 01/11/97 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 05:55am \/To: JOHN ANGELICO (Read 0 times) Subj: Trap Errors It's 08 Jan 97 20:56:06, We'll return to John Angelico and Tony Langdon's discussion of Trap Errors JA> While teleporting back from the Restaurant at the End of the JA> Universe, I heard Tony say about Trap Errors: TL> I use a fan/heatsink here, seems to do the trick, even in today's TL> 37 degree C heat. :-) JA> Wow, where are you? We haven't had a decent summer like that for JA> years! Now organising for a fan to go on top of the chip. Melbourne, last weekend. :-) JA> ! Origin: Melbourne PC User Group BBS (3:632/309) ^^^^^^^^^^ Thought you would have noticed the heat too. ;) ... The magic of the tongue is the most dangerous of all spells. --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E1H00004 Date: 01/11/97 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 05:56am \/To: SCOTT DRAKE (Read 0 times) Subj: [1/2] Help It's 09 Jan 97 22:55:00, We'll return to Scott Drake and Tony Langdon's discussion of [1/2] Help SD> Well I got soooo frustrated that the system wasn't working properly SD> that I went back to the old setup were only one machine was working SD> but I forgot to turn the Ipgate back to off and guess what? The whole SD> systems now works and it is such a simple setup! It can be. :-) SD> Here are my SETUP.CMD files for both machines: SD> [SETUP.CMD for 208.197.124.41 InterNet Machine] SD> route -fh SD> arp -f SD> ifconfig lan0 208.197.124.41 netmask 255.255.255.248 SD> REM ifconfig lan1 SD> REM ifconfig lan2 SD> REM ifconfig lan3 SD> REM ifconfig lan4 SD> REM ifconfig lan5 SD> REM ifconfig lan6 SD> REM ifconfig lan7 SD> REM ifconfig sl0 SD> ipgate on SD> [SETUP.CMD for 208.197.124.42 Second Machine] SD> route -fh SD> arp -f SD> ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 SD> ifconfig lan0 208.197.124.42 netmask 255.255.255.248 alias SD> REM ifconfig lan1 SD> REM ifconfig lan2 SD> REM ifconfig lan3 SD> REM ifconfig lan4 SD> REM ifconfig lan5 SD> REM ifconfig lan6 SD> REM ifconfig lan7 SD> REM ifconfig sl0 SD> route add default 208.197.124.41 1 SD> ipgate off SD> And that's it! All other machines down the line use the same SETUP.CMD SD> as for 208.197.12.42 except that the IP address for the machine SD> changes! makes sense, from what I can see :-) ... An ounce of Knowledge is worth a ton of Ignorance. --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E1H00005 Date: 01/12/97 From: TERRY COLLINS Time: 01:06am \/To: DAL JENCSO (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: NEWBIE HELP NEEDED -=> Quoting DAL JENCSO to ALL <=- DJ> @MSGID: 1:2612/10 cd0717f7 DJ> I have three machines that I would like to hook up in a peer DJ> network. I have Connect on one, and have warp4 for the other DJ> two. I just purchased a set of five ethernet cards made by DJ> intel, They are EtherExpress Flash Network cards with DJ> PC10BaseT/AUI/Rj45 Connections (part number PCLA81255). I DJ> checked the card number in the supported listing on the carp4 DJ> cdrom drive and the cards are supported. DJ> I am a networking newbie. I had a sense of how to go about DJ> hooking up cards with a BNC T connectors with terminators, but DJ> haven't a clue as to how to hook up these cards.I hope to DJ> shortly hook up five machines on a peer network in my DJ> house. I was planning on running cabling through floors DJ> and under house. Any help will be greatly apprecialted. Well, usually you plug into a hub from each network card and the network is effectively a star configuration. The other way is that one machine has two network cards and the other two plug into a network card each, but you need cross over cables, but I've not done it. Seems best option is a cheap hub which would be about the same price as three AUI to co-ax converters. DJ> * RM 1.31 3319 * DJ> -!- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0GX DJ> ! Origin: BBS Networks @ bbsnets.com 301-863-5089 (1:2612/10) --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Sydney PC Users Group Mail Exchange (3:712/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E1H00006 Date: 01/12/97 From: TERRY COLLINS Time: 01:08am \/To: JOHN HENTSCH (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp v4.x bootup error msg -=> Quoting John Hentsch to All <=- JH> @MSGID: 1:218/907.0 8A6DE813 JH> I get this error msg on bootup: JH> PR00025 An error occurred when the prg tried to bind TCPIP_NIF to JH> IBMNE200_nif. Anyone have an idea of how to fix this? Look at your Protocol.ini and check it out. JH> I'm running Lantastic for OS/2 v1.02. Do I need the file sharing JH> option on the installed program to be installed to use Lantastic or can JH> I un-install it? JH> Thanks, JH> jh - JH> * WCE 2.1G1/2241 * JH> -!- JH> ! Origin: Mail Box BBS Glendora, CA (1:218/907.0) --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Sydney PC Users Group Mail Exchange (3:712/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E1H00007 Date: 01/12/97 From: TERRY COLLINS Time: 01:09am \/To: GREG BODGER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: OS2 Warp 4 and Lanta -=> Quoting Bob Hoffman to Greg Bodger <=- BH> @MSGID: 8:8/0.0 32d03dca GB> Hi Bob, GB> I think you will find that Lantastic and os2 GB> peer are not compatible. GB> If you want the Dos machines to talk to the OS/2 GB> machine, you might have to GB> install Lantastic for OS/2. Or use WFWG. It will peer to OS/2 warp connect. BH> Greg, BH> BH> Thanks for the hint, will look into that. BH> BH> Bob BH> -!- Maximus 3.01 BH> # Origin: FamilyNet International (8:8/0) BH> ! Origin: FamilyNet Intl. Echogate [708] 230-9068 (1:115/887) --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Sydney PC Users Group Mail Exchange (3:712/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E1H00008 Date: 01/12/97 From: ALEC HERRMANN Time: 01:43am \/To: DAL JENCSO (Read 0 times) Subj: NEWBIE HELP NEEDED Hello DAL, Replying to a message of DAL JENCSO to ALL: DJ> intel, They are EtherExpress Flash Network cards with DJ> PC10BaseT/AUI/Rj45 Connections (part number PCLA81255). I ... DJ> I am a networking newbie. I had a sense of how to go about DJ> hooking up cards with a BNC T connectors with terminators, but DJ> haven't a clue as to how to hook up these cards.I hope to DJ> shortly hook up five machines on a peer network in my 1) You will need a 10BaseT hub to connect your 5 machines. A small 8 port hub should not cost you more than $150 US. You do not need the features on more expensive hubs. 2a) You will need a supply of 10BaseT cabling - specifically 4 pair (8 conductor) twisted cable. Category 5 rated cabling should be used and is what is normally used these days. A 1000 foot roll should not cost you more than $100 US. You will also need some RJ45 crimp-on connectors and a crimping tool. If you go this route, I suggest getting documentation on how to wire RJ45 cables (and wall sockets if you use them - not required but looks neater). It does make a difference which wire pairs go to which RJ45 contacts. Your network card manual may have the wiring information you need. You can look on various web sites (such as 3COM at www.3com.com) to get the wiring information. 2b) You can buy precut cable with RJ45 connectors (similiar to telephone RJ11 connectors but a bit bigger with 8 contacts instead of 4 as on the RJ11) already crimped on the ends. 3) Do not make your individual cables longer than 100 metres (about 300 et). Any other information you need? Please ask. Regards, Alec --- FleetStreet 1.12 NR * Origin: The Nibble's Roost, Richmond BC 604-540-8048 (1:153/8086) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E1H00009 Date: 01/12/97 From: ALEC HERRMANN Time: 01:54am \/To: JIM WARGULA (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Warp 4 connect to win9 Hello Jim, Replying to a message of Jim Wargula to Alec Herrmann: JW>>> Can user names and user machine id's be the same, ie, can the JW>>> win95 machine be called MATT and have a userid MATT? AH>> AH>> No, they can not be the same in this case. JW> Well, this was the tip that did it! Many thanks... Finally found the ... JW> Thanks, again! Good to see you got it working! Regards, Alec --- FleetStreet 1.12 NR * Origin: The Nibble's Roost, Richmond BC 604-540-8048 (1:153/8086) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: E1H00010 Date: 01/12/97 From: WAYNE DELISLE SR. Time: 02:58pm \/To: BILL ARLOFSKI (Read 0 times) Subj: Warp 3 and TCP/IP BA> WS> Will TCP/IP work with SIO or must I reinstall COM.SYS in BA> order to use BA> WS> the serial port. BA> BA> I am no tcp/ip expert, but I can assure you that Warp Connect BA> v3.0 WILL (and does) work with Ray's SIO drivers. I had been BA> running the two on my machine at work for about a year. I expected as much. BA> BA> Simply edit the config.sys file and either REM or remove the BA> lines for COM.SYS and VCOM.SYS and the error message will go BA> away, never to bother you again. :) I guess I didn't make myself clear. I've been using SIO for at least 3 years, and before that X00. Rays drivers are outstanding. When I installed TCP/IP, it complained about not finding the COM.SYS driver and therefore somehow didn't install, (or won't recognize), the com support. I cannot get TCP/IP to see the com port, and do not understand how to trouble shoot the problem... Basicly, how do I make TCP/IP see and use the com port. BA> BA> I am sure someone else in here will be able to give you the BA> specific advice you need to get TCP/IP working on your system, BA> but I figured I could take the 'easy' one BA> Thanks for the response. Wayne --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Matrix BBS 704-535-7361 Area 704 Hub, SkyNet (1:379/33)