--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: DGN00015 Date: 12/16/96 From: TONY LANGDON Time: 03:52pm \/To: FRANK SEXTON (Read 0 times) Subj: Networking It's 15 Dec 96 05:15:00, We'll return to Frank Sexton and Elliott Goodman's discussion of Networking -=> /* Quoting Elliott Goodman to Frank Sexton */ <=- FS> Also, I download and upload my mail packets over the wire. FS> Convenient stuff really. PCBoard-OS/2 (which I run) will FS> support a LAN local logon too. That means that I can do a My friend here does this too. He has a copy of the BlueWave door on his machine, which reads the messagebase off the network drive on my machine and does a local download of his mail over the net. :-) We also have TCP/IP connectivity throughout the LAN, and all machines can share the same PPP link to the Internet, so while one of us is on IRC, the other might be surfing the Web. :-) FS> local login to my BBS on a spare node over the LAN, just as FS> if I were calling over the phone line. However I won't FS> have to use a phone line and I won't have to sit in front FS> of the machine at the local keyboard. Haven't got that all FS> set up yet. That's next on my list:-). Sounds like fun. :-) The LAN here is somewhat more complex than would be considered here, but it might serve to illustrate the possibilities. It is avtually 2 LANS. One for file sharing, the other is TCP/IP, which provides Internet connectivity via a semi-permanent PPP link (can't afford another phone line yet :( ). On the other end of that link are machines which I sometimes have to administer. A copy of OS2You does the trick nicely (beats a 40 km drive to edit a .CMD file :) ). EG> But why go to that expense? I can pull the SCSI CD EG> from the 486 and put it in the Pentium; same thing EG> with the SCSI gig drive and one of the IDE hard disks, EG> so what will the extra processing power of a networked EG> 486 give me? FS> Networking isn't supposed to give you "processing power", FS> it's supposed to cut down on the number of resources you FS> have to buy and provide connectivity for convenience. FS> You'd only need one printer for instance. You'd be able to FS> use a single modem from either computer. This modem FS> sharing is not supported by Win95, only OS/2. As an example, I have only 1 CD-ROM, but that can serve other machines. I also have only one HDD > 1 gig, so guess where all those files I collect end up, as well as disk hungry apps and micellaneous data. :-) EG> See the question in my mind? I don't want to do it EG> just because I can; I want to know what benefit it EG> would give me. FS> Maybe none. Only you can be the judge of that:-). Agreed. :) FS> Well, (there are so many advantages), do you ever play FS> "sneaker net" running back and forth between machines FS> copying from machine to machine using a floppy? If so, Hehe, I've forgotten what that's like! :) FS> that will be a thing of the past. Just copy over the net. FS> If you have two drives on each machine, after you get 'em FS> networked you'll have *four* drives on each machine:-). FS> After a while you might even forget which drives are real FS> and which ones are "shares":-). They react virtually the FS> same. You can't tell the difference. That's another point of networking. This machine is chock full of cards, and I'm out of IRQs. Should I want to add in another drive, or serial port, no problems, just throw it in another machine and share it (or in the case of a modem, route to it). :-) The other situation I've found to be invaluable is in setting up new systems. The 1.2 gig drive frequently gets used for backups from the other PCs. When I was running DOS on here, I copied everything to the Linux server, repartitioned the drive, restored the DOS stuff on its new partition, and installed OS/2 on the other half. Much easier than backing up to 100 floppies. :-) FS> Now that I've finished writing this message on my personal FS> PC in the comfort of my family-room in front of the FS> fireplace, I'm gonna hit [F3] which will run a batch file I FS> wrote (CMD file actually) and it will copy this Blue Wave FS> packet over the wire to be uploaded to my BBS Blue Wave FS> mail door. And all the while I never had to use a phone FS> line or a floppy and I was able to sit in my family-room FS> watching a good Christmas movie all the while. That's FS> *convenience*. And my hitting F10 will zap this into the message base for delivery via the LAN and Internet to my boss node. :-) ... A clean desk is a sure sign of a sick mind. --- FMail/386 1.02 * Origin: The Bridge - Remote Sysop. (3:635/728.18) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: DGN00016 Date: 12/11/96 From: MICHAEL HATCHARD Time: 07:34pm \/To: ALEC HERRMANN (Read 0 times) Subj: warp 3 networking to linux Hi Alec AH> Replying to a message of Michael Hatchard to Alec Herrmann: AH> MH> Linux machines Network 203.1.91.205 (Main Server) Network AH> MH> 203.1.91.206 (Client) Netmask 255.255.255.252 AH> MH> OS/2 Network 203.1.91.207 Netmask 255.255.255.252 Default route AH> MH> 203.1.91.205 AH> Any reason why you chose 255.255.255.252 for the mask instead of the AH> default 255.255.255.0 used for Class C addresses? If you are not AH> using subnets, then the default mask should be fine. I originally only had one machine 203.1.91.205 & the net mask then was 255.255.255.0 but when I introduced the second machine 203.1.91.206 I couldn't get them to talk, so I emailed my provider. Who told me to change it to 255.255.255.252 & the machines talked beutifuly. Only know I want to add another machine, so I need to work out how he came by too working out 252 in the netmask, so I can work out what my next number will be for 3 machines. Anyway this subject is getting borderline. So I must say I can't wait to install my upgrade to warp4 that came in the mail today. Wish they had better manuals for it. Thanks Michael mhatch@timelag.satech.net.au ... "Now is the time for all good men to come to." --- * Origin: -=TiME LaG BBS=- 8-396-2237 | 1200 - 28800 | (3:800/894) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: DGN00017 Date: 12/12/96 From: SCOTT LITTLE Time: 10:24pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Win95/97 and OS/2 I will soon have two computers, one for my BBS and one for me. I want to run my BBS under OS/2 and my own workstation under Win95/97, and be able to access each computer from the other. What network protocols does OS/2 have? I'd prefer to use MS Network since I'll be using the Win machine most. Regards, - SoNiC [ Scott Little (SoNiC) admin@cyberia.asstdc.com.au ] --- FMail/Win32 1.22 * Origin: Cyberia <> 02-9534-1702 <> Fidonet / Internet (3:712/848) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: DGN00018 Date: 12/06/96 From: JOHN ANGELICO Time: 12:37pm \/To: ERIC RUSK (Read 0 times) Subj: OS/2 and Novell While teleporting back from the Restaurant at the End of the Universe, I overheard Eric say to All about OS/2 and Novell: ER> We have 25 486dx2/66mhz ER> machines with 8 meg ram and 210meg hard drives. Our server ER> is a Pentium-133 with 16meg ram and a 2.5 gig hard drive. ER> Will we be able to go to an OS/2 based network? ER> You may but performance would be average to marginal. I did run two machines like that for a while, but eventually took advantage of cheap RAM prices and upgraded to 32Mb each. I would also recommend you get more HDD space on the workstations. I suggest you add in another physical drive of say 1+Gb rather than just upgrade each. You can boot OS/2 off the second drive if you set it up properly and can keep Win3.11 on the first one intact. The actual processors are fine - the P133 will reboot faster that's all! For a staged implementation, put OS/2 only on the lab server first, and you only need to upgrade RAM to 32Mb. You could still run the Win3.11 workstations and gradually upgrade them as funds permit (which they rarely do, right?) I'm sure others will have more suggestions too. Ciao, John Angelico alias talldad@pobox.com.au ___ X KWQ/2 1.2i X I know the answer, as long as you ask the right question. --- * Origin: Melbourne PC User Group BBS (3:632/309) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: DGN00019 Date: 12/06/96 From: JOHN ANGELICO Time: 12:40pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Network Messaging While teleporting back from the Restaurant at the End of the Universe, I said to All about Network Messaging: I want to do something about the native Network Messaging that comes with Connect - as we are using it more now, its limitations are becoming more obvious. We have a 2-station Connect network and I'm interested in a not too expensive replacement. Suggestions (commercial or s/ware), please? Ciao, John Angelico alias talldad@pobox.com.au ___ X KWQ/2 1.2i X On a clear disk you can seek forever --- * Origin: Melbourne PC User Group BBS (3:632/309) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: DGN00020 Date: 12/09/96 From: JOHN ANGELICO Time: 01:49pm \/To: TONY LANGDON (Read 0 times) Subj: Trap Errors While teleporting back from the Restaurant at the End of the Universe, I overheard Tony say about Trap Errors: TL> That's a good start. Fire away. :-) Oh, BTW, if there's a TL> particular event when the trap happens, mention that as well... TL> TL> ... I don't have any solution, but I certainly admire the problem. TL> Hardware Config of both systems (what details?) Server: Triton Mboard, Cyrix 486DX4-100 CPU, 32Mb 72-pin SIMMs (matched set), mini-tower case 250W power supply; HDD: 1 x 384Mb IBM 1 x 1.377Gb Connor Panasonic CD-ROM Banksia 28.8kbps fax/modem internal (based on Rockwell chipsets) Fujitsu MO Drive 230Mb 1 x 1.44Mb floppy Video: Tseng ET4000 W32i or p with 1Mb VRAM (separate driver prior to FP22) Slave: Triton Mboard Cyrix 486DX2-80 CPU, 32Mb 72-pin (I think) SIMMs (matched set) desktop case, 200W power supply HDD: 212Mb Connor FDD: 1 x 1.44Mb 1 x 1.2Mb Video: Cirrus Logic 5426 class with 1Mb VRAM (separate driver prior to FP22) Warp level and FP level: Both Warp Connect Blue box with FP22 applied but not committed Type of Network cards: NE-2000 compatible clone matched pair Software actually running: Server: anything you like - FaxWorks 2.0; IAK with PMMail, WebEx 1.1f; ZOC 3.02; KWQ/2; DOS PC-File v7; Win: Pastel Accounting; PMGlobe; NPSWPS; Xit 2.3; PMSysMon 3.0; sometimes DOS QBasic Slave: DOS: PC-File v7; PC-Type v2 (v old but so good it's hard to give up); NPSWPS; System Clock; Trap details (of course!) Mostly 0000 & 0001 with QBasic; 000c, 000d, 000e apparently unrelated to a particular program Funny - as soon as I try to do something about it, the errors don't occur. An old TRAP report from pre-FP16 times: Result: new TRAP C error Start TRAP C listing ******************** TRAP 000C ERRCMD: 0000 ERACC ***** ERLIM ******** EAX: F780003B EBX: ABD00000 ECX: 00000007 EDX: 00000008 ESI: ABDC0003 EDI: 168A0000 EBP: 0038FFFF FLG: 00012246 CS:EIP 0148:000069F3 CSACC: 009B CSLIM: 0000927A SS:ESP 0030:0000580A SSACC: 1097 SSLIM: 000048CF DS: 0000 DSACC: **** DSLIM: ******** CR0: A001001B ES: 0000 ESACC: **** ESLIM: ******** CR2: 0003C000 FS: 0000 FSACC: **** FSLIM: ******** GS: 0000 GSACC: **** GSLIM: ******** Internal error at location: ##0160:FFF5C364 - 000D:A364 60000,9084 048600B4 Internal revision 8.209 94/11/09 End of Trap 000C listing ************************ Ciao, John Angelico alias talldad@pobox.com.au ___ X KWQ/2 1.2i X MONEY TALKS ... but all mine ever says is GOODBYE! --- * Origin: Melbourne PC User Group BBS (3:632/309) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: DGN00021 Date: 12/08/96 From: LEWIN EDWARDS Time: 02:37pm \/To: TOMI SKYTTA (Read 0 times) Subj: Warp 4 LAN TS> Hi, TS> Just want to get confirmation on whether Warp 4 inherently supports LAN TS> without needing to get a "Connect" version or other software. Definitely, certainly and fersure. There is no "Connect" vs ordinary version any more, just as there is no red vs blue version. Just one glorious OS/2. -- Lewin A.R.W. Edwards [Team OS/2] Tel 0412809805 * http://www.zws.com/ --- MsgedSQ/2 3.35 * Origin: ZWSBBS +61-3-98276881 (V.FC)/+61-3-98276277 (V.34) (3:634/396) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: DGN00022 Date: 12/18/96 From: GARRY WALKER Time: 03:06pm \/To: GEORGE FLIGER (Read 0 times) Subj: Os/2 And Novell * On 12-17-96, George Fliger said to Garry Walker: BC> I've run Novell Netware 4.1 on a 20 mhz Wang 286 with a 40 meg disk. nce > you are on they net, you could, I suppose, load just about any DOS GW> text-mode > programs from it. I have booted netware from a floppy, so I suppose one > might not need a hard disk at all for certain things. GW> All this as a Netware 4.1 server? How big was SYS: on that GW> floppy booted server? GF> He's obviously pulling your leg. Netware 3.x and 4.x won't run on any > processor less than a 80386. Heh... Yep, _I know that -- but I was curious as to how far he would go with this? :> -- SRP 2.00 #1380: One four letter word is sometimes worth 1000 pictures. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Network Dynamics Metro 817.243.7493 (1:393/4) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: DGN00023 Date: 12/16/96 From: MIKE HARRIS Time: 02:32pm \/To: GEORGE FLATMAN (Read 0 times) Subj: my config.sys |XSWAPPATH=D:\SWAP 32768 2048 reverse these numbers |XRMSIZE=640 |XDOS=HIGH,UMB you possibly could be wasting memory with each DOS session you start unless the need the above. I'd use 512 and low,noumb and then modify those DOS_settings that need more! GF|XLASTDRIVE=Z |XSET NWDBPATH=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\NW |XDEVICE=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\LANMSGDD.OS2 /I:C:\LANTASTI\OS2 |XDEVICE=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\PROTMAN.OS2 /I:C:\LANTASTI\OS2 |XDEVICE=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\NE2000WC.OS2 |XDEVICE=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\AI-NDIS.OS2 |XDEVICE=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\AILANBIO.OS2 |XDEVICE=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\NETBIOS.OS2 |XDEVICE=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\LANPDD.OS2 |XDEVICE=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\LANVDD.OS2 |XDEVICE=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\IFS2NB.OS2 |XRUN=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\NETBIND.EXE |XRUN=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\LTDAEMON.EXE |XIFS=C:\LANTASTI\OS2\LANTASTI.IFS |Xthere it is i hope maybe some one can help me with this roblem. GF|X George Flqatman GF|X--- Renegade v5-11 Exp |X * Origin: The Pool BBS Skinny Dipping At Its Best (1:209/306) * QMPro 1.52 * X-X-X-X-X-X-X-XCXHXAXIXNX-XLXIXNXKX-X-X-X-X-X-X-X --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Computer Education Services BBS (1:103/132) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 207 OS2 LAN Ref: DGN00024 Date: 12/18/96 From: CHUCK SADOIAN Time: 04:20pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Help Ok, I need help :-) I have a machine running OS/2 Warp. I have TCP/IP v2.0 I have the necessary patches installed to TCP/IP (don't have the patch level handy at he moment). For quite some time I've had an OS/2 box networked to my ISP via a 115K serial link to their Livingston Portmaster 2e, using a PPP link. I have a static IP address for the link, and all has worked fine since day one. By the way, the ISP has his POP (portmaster, modems, TCU, phone lines, etc) n my office, thus the "physical" connection to the portmaster, rather than via an analog or ISDN modem. Now I want to establish a subnet and hook into the ethernet port in the back of their portmaster. I built another OS/2 box using the same disk image of the working OS/2 box (the one with the PPP link), and stuck a lan card in it. My ISP said my subnet is 206.43.243.65-94, and my netmask is 255.255.255.224. I configured my second OS/2 box to be 206.43.243.65, and told it my default router is 206.43.243.64. I also configured my orginal OS/2 box with a lan card and gave it an address of 206.43.243.66, default router same as the second box. I can ping either box from each other, and I telnet from one to the other. But I CANNOT get into the ISP's portmaster no matter how hard try. I have had the ISP's system person here in house and we have been over it and over it and we cannot understand WHY my equipment cannot talk to the portmaster's ethernet port (yes I checked the cable!). He is presently talking with Livingston about this, but so far they say how he has the portmaster configured is correct. So I need to make sure *I* am set up properly. Given the subnet addresses defined above, can someone give me a rundown as to HOW my TCP/IP should be configured? Here is my SETUP.CMD file: route -fh arp -f ifconfig lan0 206.43.243.65 netmask 255.255.255.224 broadcast 206.43.243.64 metric 1 REM ifconfig lan1 REM ifconfig lan2 REM ifconfig lan3 REM ifconfig lan4 REM ifconfig lan5 REM ifconfig lan6 REM ifconfig lan7 REM ifconfig sl0 route add default 206.43.243.64 1 Using 206.43.243.64 as both a broadcast and the default router does not sound right to me, but that's what he said to do. If anyone has any suggestions I'd sure like to hear them. Chuck chuck.sadoian@dinuba.com --- QScan/PCB v1.17b / 01-0154 * Origin: MicroLink BBS * Dinuba, CA 209-591-8753 (1:214/80)