--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 206 WINDOWS 32BIT Ref: EBU00000 Date: 07/24/97 From: ROGER HINSON Time: 08:02am \/To: CHRISTER SOLSTRAND (Read 4 times) Subj: Windows 95 backup > On Tue, Jul. 22, 1997, Christer Solstrand (2:211/16) said this: CS>Thanks. So far, I have not succeeded, but... People have recommended heyen CS>backup for Windows NT, and I tracked down a trial version on their homepage, CS>but I was unable to download it. Any ideas why I couldn't? CS>------ christer --------------------------------------- remielrs.bbs.no - > My reply to this I know they were having some problems with DNS entries about a week ago, since it was moved to anouther location.. You might want to try it again.. Roger... --- WWIVGate 1.12c * Origin: Dragon's Dreams [619-562-3928] (1:202/1318) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 206 WINDOWS 32BIT Ref: EBU00001 Date: 07/24/97 From: CHRISTER SOLSTRAND Time: 04:47pm \/To: FRANK SCHNEIDER (Read 4 times) Subj: Long file name backu FS> CS> Yes, but think about the Mac'ers, then. :) Or is it FS> CS> 64-character filenames they have? Who cares, anyway? FS> problems with mac's filenames are common to most admins - those FS> with long filenames amoung win32-versions less.. I should think so, yes. I believe that PC's don't have good enough means of converting MAC filenames as well. Is it so? FS> interpretation when creating 8.3 from long path/filenames - so if FS> you wan't to avoid trouble in mixed-client environments.. FS> CS> ...then I just stay away from 'em, right? FS> I do, most people I'm working for do, some do not - as long as FS> they can afford it.. FS> Your'e quite safe if only one BS-version is used as Workstation BS FS> - you may encounter problems when, lets say 3.51, 3.95 and 4.0, FS> are used - you will have trouble if DOS-Clients are involved. I would certainly think so, yes. ------ christer --------------------------------------- remiel@errors.bbs.no Ignorance is curable, but some refuse the inocculation. --- BBBS/L v3.33 How * Origin: Errors HQ: Prog/Emul/Linux/Demos, +47-56341083 (2:211/16) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 206 WINDOWS 32BIT Ref: EBU00002 Date: 07/24/97 From: CHRISTER SOLSTRAND Time: 04:47pm \/To: SCOTT PARKS (Read 4 times) Subj: Long file name backup SP> CS> I would think that ZIPing the entire drive with WinZip SP> CS> should do the trick, but then you have a little problem when SP> CS> you shall decompress the file, since WinZip requires Windows SP> CS> 95... SP> Not really unless it is GUI only .... It is, and it requires Win95 or NT to run. You can, however, decompress the Zip-file with PKUnzip 2.04g if you like, but then you will lose the long filenames... SP> just format the hard drive with 95 from a floppy that has been SP> formatted 95. Log into the server with with DOS clients and copy SP> the files back. It won't help you to format the harddisk with Windows 95's FORMAT.COM, if Windows 95 and its LFN-driver isn't running. Without that driver, all you have is DOS, and DOS does NOT support long file names, not even DOS 7.0. ------ christer --------------------------------------- remiel@errors.bbs.no "Dette er *direktesendt* - bare se p} klokka mi!" -Erik Meyn --- BBBS/L v3.33 How * Origin: Errors HQ: Prog/Emul/Linux/Demos, +47-56341083 (2:211/16) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 206 WINDOWS 32BIT Ref: EBU00003 Date: 07/24/97 From: FRANK RAMSEY Time: 10:14pm \/To: CHRISTER SOLSTRAND (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Windows 95 backup CS> Thanks. So far, I have not succeeded, but... People have CS> recommended Cheyenne Backup for Windows NT, and I tracked CS> down a trial version on their homepage, but I was unable CS> to download it. Any ideas why I couldn't? Not really. I'd not even bother. I'd check out Seagate's Backup products and forget about Cheyenne. framsey@goodyear.com; frank.ramsey@fallsbbs.com - CNE, CNA-4, PE --- EZPoint V2.2 * Origin: -- A Point on Pine Lake (330)-796-3146 -- (1:157/603.70) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 206 WINDOWS 32BIT Ref: EBU00004 Date: 07/25/97 From: CHRISTER SOLSTRAND Time: 01:58am \/To: FRANK SCHNEIDER (Read 4 times) Subj: Long file name backu FS> CS> Yes, but think about the Mac'ers, then. :) Or is it FS> CS> 64-character filenames they have? Who cares, anyway? FS> problems with mac's filenames are common to most admins - those FS> with long filenames amoung win32-versions less.. I should think so, yes. I believe that PC's don't have good enough means of converting MAC filenames as well. Is it so? FS> interpretation when creating 8.3 from long path/filenames - so if FS> you wan't to avoid trouble in mixed-client environments.. FS> CS> ...then I just stay away from 'em, right? FS> I do, most people I'm working for do, some do not - as long as FS> they can afford it.. FS> Your'e quite safe if only one BS-version is used as Workstation BS FS> - you may encounter problems when, lets say 3.51, 3.95 and 4.0, FS> are used - you will have trouble if DOS-Clients are involved. I would certainly think so, yes. ------ christer --------------------------------------- remiel@errors.bbs.no Ignorance is curable, but some refuse the inocculation. --- BBBS/L v3.33 How * Origin: Errors HQ: Prog/Emul/Linux/Demos, +47-56341083 (2:211/16) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 206 WINDOWS 32BIT Ref: EBU00005 Date: 07/25/97 From: CHRISTER SOLSTRAND Time: 01:58am \/To: SCOTT PARKS (Read 4 times) Subj: Long file name backup SP> CS> I would think that ZIPing the entire drive with WinZip SP> CS> should do the trick, but then you have a little problem when SP> CS> you shall decompress the file, since WinZip requires Windows SP> CS> 95... SP> Not really unless it is GUI only .... It is, and it requires Win95 or NT to run. You can, however, decompress the Zip-file with PKUnzip 2.04g if you like, but then you will lose the long filenames... SP> just format the hard drive with 95 from a floppy that has been SP> formatted 95. Log into the server with with DOS clients and copy SP> the files back. It won't help you to format the harddisk with Windows 95's FORMAT.COM, if Windows 95 and its LFN-driver isn't running. Without that driver, all you have is DOS, and DOS does NOT support long file names, not even DOS 7.0.