--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 204 SEARCH & RESCUE Ref: C2100004Date: 01/29/95 From: GREGORY BAKER Time: 09:20am \/To: JOSHUA JEFFERY (Read 3 times) Subj: Sar Ceritification Joshu- Why can't you join CAP? The rule there is "They can make you not go, but they can't make you go." We can always use ground team members and leaders. Think it over! There's a squadron near you. (Relatively), Gregory.Baker@f239.n109.z1.fidonet.org --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: The Frequency Forum - (703) 207-9622 (1:109/239) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 204 SEARCH & RESCUE Ref: C2100005Date: 01/29/95 From: GREGORY BAKER Time: 09:30am \/To: JOSHUA JEFFERY (Read 3 times) Subj: Master Sarlist Okay, Josh, one more for the list. However, qualifications will change ASAP! Name: Gregory Baker Position: Ground Team Leader (in training), Mission Observer (in training) Rank: Senior Member, CAP (soon 1LT), Coast Guard Auxillarist (no rank in the CGA) Department: Bowie Composite Squadron #18052, Maryland Wing, CAP Bowie Flotilla 73, 5th Dist (Southern), CGA Specialites: Ground Team (training), ELT, Aerial Observation (training), Deckhand and other flotsam in CGA: Cheseapeake Bay Patrol Radio Operator Certification: MD Wing Ground ES, MD Wing General ES, Natcap Wing Aircrew School. Tech Class Lice. WB3EBO E-Mail: Gregory.Baker@f239.n109.z1.fidonet.org Landline: 301/369-3566 --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: The Frequency Forum - (703) 207-9622 (1:109/239) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 204 SEARCH & RESCUE Ref: C2100006Date: 01/29/95 From: GREGORY BAKER Time: 09:33am \/To: JOSHUA JEFFERY (Read 3 times) Subj: Sar Master List May I ask a favor? Would people on this list prepare small handouts to E-mail otheir specialites, so ick lessonsto pass on to others? I know in my squadron, we often have five or ten minutes free, and so I give a quickie training session. --- TriDog 6.0 * Origin: The Frequency Forum - (703) 207-9622 (1:109/239) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 204 SEARCH & RESCUE Ref: C2100007Date: 01/30/95 From: PAUL REHMAN JR. Time: 09:21pm \/To: MARTIN COHN (Read 3 times) Subj: Ground operations trainin LD>If you do not have a copy of our now National LD>Distributed ESMENU program, I will send you one. If you have LD>any questions concerning its operation, MC>I must have missed a previous disc. of this software. Can I get a little MC>more info? Martin, The program we were discussing is a program written in Texas Wing for use during CAP search and rescue activities. It allows us to access our membership data from our system called NINQ (no idea what that stands for) couple it with the Emergency Service data base (compiled when you fill out a CAPF100) within the program and then place all the data on the appropri- ate CAP forms. This includes both ground and air operations, vehicle and aircraft registration, Mission Coordinators log, and a lot of other nice to have information. As since the organization is a national one, all of our forms are similar and the program is developed into one of the most widely used programs in the ES area. This is in conjunction with a program called GridFind which converts lat/long into CAP grid coordinates, with distances and bearings from VOR's and Airports displayed. There are at least these two, and possibly three or four more used by CAP during SAR/CD mission activity. The advent of the affordable laptop is making these programs more accessable for the field units. The squadron I command main- tains the system on three full size PC's and one laptop. One of the full size PC's and printer is deployed to the local mission base during mission activity and the admin section enters data. In fixed locations where networks are available, the data is shared through the system and printed out at specific locations. It is hoped at Wing HQ (I double as the Ground Ops Officer for Ohio Wing) to place two laptops in the mission kits and provide them to facilities on a need basis, money is supposed to be in the budget..... Hope this helps. Let me know if you would like anyother information. P. Rehman Jr. === * DeLuxe 1.12 #8806 * Civil Air Patrol, USAF's best kept secret. --- InterPCB 1.50 * Origin: Nerd's Nook (216)-356-1431 - Hayes V.VFC (1:157/2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 204 SEARCH & RESCUE Ref: C2100008Date: 01/30/95 From: BRAD JONES Time: 01:42am \/To: JIM LESLIE (Read 3 times) Subj: Memphis Jim, A couple of years a woman and I were driving to a disaster dog seminar down near Holly Springs, about 50? miles south of Memphis. As we were riding around the river area (downtown) of Memphis, we were rubbernecking like any tourists saying "Oh, look at that one!" and "oo,check that over there", but what we were looking at was the construction of all those beautiful old buildings. Very few of them had any reenforcement at all and most didn't even have any soldier rows in all that brick. When the New Madrid fault goes that whole city is going to pop like a cheap prophylactic. If it is during the day when everyone is downtown, there is going to be incredible slaughter. Nighty-Night. bcj --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Construction Net #6 * Los Alamos NM * 16800 (1:15/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 204 SEARCH & RESCUE Ref: C2100009Date: 01/30/95 From: BRAD JONES Time: 01:55am \/To: DANIEL REEMES (Read 3 times) Subj: CAP Hello Daniel, I am a senior member (I have refused to become an officer) of CAP. I can't afford to be a pilot, but have a great time as a scanner/observer (one find/save a year ago and a find last weekend. Because of New Mexicos SAR plan structure we have been able to expand our SAREXes a time or two to include visual, ELT and human targets supplied by area ground teams and included a ground search scenario so the ground teams (non CAP) could search for, find, and "rescue" the "subjects". Some would be "found" by CAP with a parachute or ELT target and have to be rescued. These excercised were super for working out some of the problems we've had in the past on real searchs. These included things like ground teams keeping radios on, which frequencies, radio protocols, aircraft and ground team capabilities. Learning to communicate and understand each others dialects and knowing about such aids as charts/maps and how their differences can cause much confusion can help the air and ground teams communicate and become more of a partnership. That is a plus/plus situation for the poor schmuck in a broken airplane or walking circles around some tree as well as possibly making our jobs easier, shorter and more successful. A live find has no comparison to a find that was not a find in time. --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Construction Net #6 * Los Alamos NM * 16800 (1:15/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 204 SEARCH & RESCUE Ref: C2300000Date: 01/31/95 From: STEVE HORNING Time: 06:48pm \/To: BRAD JONES (Read 3 times) Subj: Cap BJ>Hello Daniel, I am a senior member (I have refused to become an officer) of Why? Steve Horning, Capt, CAP Barksdale Comp. Sqdn Sheveport, LA ___ X OLX 2.1 TD X Semper Vigilans! --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/25) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 204 SEARCH & RESCUE Ref: C2300001Date: 01/31/95 From: STEVE HORNING Time: 07:39pm \/To: JOSHUA JEFFERY (Read 3 times) Subj: SAR Master List Add another to your list: NAME: Stephen W. Horning (Steve) RANK: CAPT (CAP), SrA (USAF) POSITION: Communications Director, Ground Ops Director, Ground Search Coordinator, Ground Team Leader. (all LAWG CAP) DEPARTMENT: Civil Air Patrol, Louisiana Wing SPECIALTIES: Communications, Ground SAR, Electronic Search CERTIFICATION: Civil Air Patrol, USAF Auxiliary EMAIL: Fido=as you can see Thanks for running the list. Hope you are able to get together a good database! Regards, Steve ___ X OLX 2.1 TD X Semper Vigilans! --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: My Secret Garden BBS - Shreveport, LA (1:380/25) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 204 SEARCH & RESCUE Ref: C2400000Date: 01/31/95 From: JOSHUA JEFFERY Time: 01:18pm \/To: GREGORY BAKER (Read 3 times) Subj: Sar Ceritification On (29 Jan 95) Gregory Baker wrote to Joshua Jeffery... GB> Joshu- Why can't you join CAP? The rule there is "They can make you GB> not go, but they can't make you go." We can always use ground team GB> members and leaders. Think it over! There's a squadron near you. GB> (Relatively), GB> Gregory.Baker@f239.n109.z1.fidonet.org Yeah, I know, I used to be a member. The thing is, I'm already extended, and if I extend into yet another group, I'll be overextended. Josh **************************************************************************** *Joshua Jeffery 1:105/40.79 FIDO Joshua.Jeffery@p79.f40.n105.z1.fidonet.org* *FIDO/INTERNET Dwight@Industrial.com Jefferyj@Glencoe.hillsborouh.k12.or.us* * USENET Explorer, Wash. Co. Sheriff's Office Joshua 24:15 * **************************************************************************** ... Once again, Windows IS NOT a virus. Viruses do something. --- PPoint 1.88 * Origin: Support Search and Rescue, Get Lost! (1:105/40.79) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 204 SEARCH & RESCUE Ref: C2400001Date: 01/31/95 From: JOSHUA JEFFERY Time: 01:19pm \/To: GREGORY BAKER (Read 3 times) Subj: Master Sarlist On (29 Jan 95) Gregory Baker wrote to Joshua Jeffery... GB> Okay, Josh, one more for the list. However, qualifications will change GB> ASAP! Okay, thank you, Sir. Please email me at Dwight@industrial.com when you have the qualification changes. Josh **************************************************************************** *Joshua Jeffery 1:105/40.79 FIDO Joshua.Jeffery@p79.f40.n105.z1.fidonet.org* *FIDO/INTERNET Dwight@Industrial.com Jefferyj@Glencoe.hillsborouh.k12.or.us* * USENET Explorer, Wash. Co. Sheriff's Office Joshua 24:15 * **************************************************************************** ... Look Captain!, A Womulan Wessel. A Womulan Wessel! Mr. Chekov? --- PPoint 1.88 * Origin: Support Search and Rescue, Get Lost! (1:105/40.79)