--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F3E00021 Date: 03/06/98 From: STEPHEN C BROWN Time: 11:39pm \/To: OCTAVIO ALVAREZ PIZA (Read 3 times) Subj: DIY PC. MSDOS to load W95 Hello Octavio! 04 Mar 98 00:51, Octavio Alvarez Piza wrote to Ross Napier: RN>> In order to load windows 95 from the CD on the new system RN>> you need to be able to get the pc to recognise the CD rom RN>> drive. To do this you first have to install MSDOS, set up RN>> the autoexec.bat and config.sys for the correct CDROM RN>> drivers and only then can you install Windows 95. OAP> Or you can create a Boot Disk with MS-DOS IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS, OAP> COMMAND.COM, AUTOEXEC.BAT, CONFIG.SYS, MSCDEX.EXE, and your OAP> CD driver, OAP> and boot with that diskette. Only if the Hard Disk is formatted, which as this is a brand new system we are talking about, it is unlikely to be. Therefore, a Win95 Startup disk suitably altered would be a much better alternative, or else, as described above, a DOS install. All the Best! --==Stephen-san==-- --- GoldED 3.00.Alpha5+ * Origin: Strood Looney-Bin Network! (2:440/601) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F3E00022 Date: 03/06/98 From: STEPHEN C BROWN Time: 11:29pm \/To: DEBBIE HILL (Read 3 times) Subj: Window 95 Hello Debbie! 04 Mar 98 18:24, Debbie Hill wrote to All: DH> I am currently using Window 3.1 and am considering converting to DH> Windows 95. However, I have heard lots of people do not like it DH> and have problems with software programs. I'm not one of them... :-) DH> Is it true that once you switch, you cannot convert back to Windows DH> 3.1? If you use the upgrade, you can convert back, although that particular feature isn't the most reliable in Windows 95. DH> Also, I really like the Windows 3.1 file manager and am not DH> aware of anything similar for Windows 95. Windows 95 does have File Manager available for Windows 3.1 die-hards! It's 32-bit replacement which allows the use and full viewing of long file names is Explorer, which works in a similar fashion to File Manager, but has all the right mouse button pull down menus available as well. In short, File Manager is certainly nothing to worry about with Windows 95. Just out of interest, it also has Program Manager, but I don't know anyone who uses it! Windows 95 is usually best installed fresh, in my personal experience. However, I do know of several people who have successfully upgraded without a hitch. Only one person I know has tried to uninstall, but in this occasion, it didn't work properly, and a hard drive trashing session ensued. If you are worried about Windows 95 causing problems, may I suggest that you go ahead, but only after backing up your system to whatever level you feel comfortable with. (I personally only backup software if I can't find my disk boxes, but I always backup data files) DH> All advice is appreciated. I hope this has helped. All the Best! --==Stephen-san==-- --- GoldED 3.00.Alpha5+ * Origin: Strood Looney-Bin Network! (2:440/601) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F3E00023 Date: 03/06/98 From: BILL DAWSON Time: 05:16pm \/To: BRUCE WILSON (Read 3 times) Subj: win3.x on a 386? -=> Quoting Bruce Wilson to Bill Dawson <=- BD> AFAIK, modern-type SIMM/DIMM memory has never been available in BD> increments less than 1 MB. That tells me that the 386 he has is BD> a pre-SIMM unit, placing it in the era pre-1991 or so. BW> Uh ... There were 256K 30-pin SIMMs before there were 1-meg 30-pin BW> SIMMs. OK, it was an "AFAIK," anyway. Let's amend it to read that by the time SIMM slots were a common feature of PC's, the 1 Meggers were a far more usual choice than anything that came before, to an extent that the "little ones" faded from just about everyone's memory! And a little aside to any Intergraph, Mac, & Sun folks who did see SIMMs long before they were popular on clones: this _IS_ a Windows echo! Bill D ... If cows could fly, everyone would carry umbrellas. --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F3E00024 Date: 03/07/98 From: EUSTACE MORTON Time: 08:34am \/To: GEOFF BENT (Read 3 times) Subj: Backup Help EM> ... Win95 EM> is whole different animal. Even after I used the restore It was EM> still asking for certain files. Wish someone will post how to EM> extract from the Cabs on the win95 compinion CD. >I found it did exactly what was needed: /* > (XTRACT.BAT) >Hope it helps. Thanks for posting it. That makes it a lot easier. Talk to you later!.... ... Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey cage. E-MAIL: ************* elmorton@juno.com **************** E-MAIL: ********* elmorton@751.conchbbs.com ************ ONLINE: The Morning Train BBS (281)860-0751, Texas, USA. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: Proud Member Of Fidonet * Faith Hope Charity!!. (1:106/751) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F3E00025 Date: 03/06/98 From: ALFRED W BRAZIE Time: 11:05am \/To: DEBBIE HILL (Read 3 times) Subj: Window 95 Howdy DEBBIE: DH>I am currently using Window 3.1 and am considering converting to DH>Windows 95. However, I have heard lots of people do not like it and DH>have problems with software programs. Is it true that once you DH>switch, you cannot convert back to Windows 3.1? Also, I really like DH>the Windows 3.1 file manager and am not aware of anything similar for DH>Windows 95. All advice is appreciated. Winfile.exe will function within Windows 95 as long as you take care with files which have long filenames. A better option is to open two instances of the explorer so you can drag files back and forth. That is how I get around the feature winfile has which I like the most. I'll give you one more opinion of '95' to think about. I think it is great guns for many 'users'. Most of the complaints I hear are from techies or tinkerers who get into trouble by messing with the system too much. I fall into that last category and have gotten into a lot of trouble. :) For the person who is not technically inclined and doesn't want to be, '95' is a great boon and allows them to get into the world of computers relatively pain free. Alfred 'Wayne' Brazie 03/06/98 Internet: waynebr@juno.com * CMPQwk 1.42 - 666 - The Devil Made Me Do It. ...Therapy helps, but screaming obscenities is cheaper. --- @dolphin-bbs.com * Origin: Dolphin BBS, W. Melbourne, FL 407-728-5548 V34+/33.6 (1:374/63) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F3E00026 Date: 03/07/98 From: KARL SCHNEIDER Time: 12:27pm \/To: DEBBIE HILL (Read 3 times) Subj: Window 95 On (04 Mar 98) Debbie Hill wrote to All... DH> I am currently using Window 3.1 and am considering converting to DH> Windows 95. However, I have heard lots of people do not like it and DH> have problems with software programs. Is it true that once you Most people appear to like it, Debbie; personally I don't. But that's because I do a lot of things in DOS which aren't impossible by any means, just clumsy. I think 95 is probably a bit better stability-wise than 3.1 but any software will have the occasional glitch. DH> switch, you cannot convert back to Windows 3.1? Also, I really like When you install it, be sure to save your old system files; this will let you UNinstall it very easily. (You will lose any applications that you install after the 95 install, though). DH> the Windows 3.1 file manager and am not aware of anything similar for DH> Windows 95. All advice is appreciated. There is a way to keep the 'program manager' (sort of), but I don't know any way to keep FM)... ... NO CARRIER Rats, where am I gonna land this thing? --- PPoint 2.05 * Origin: Green Country (1:170/170.6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F3E00027 Date: 03/07/98 From: JOHN READLE Time: 12:38pm \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: COBOL Problem Hello, The reason for this post is in response to the problem of gearing up for a class I enrolled in in January. The course in question is COBOL. With this course we received a copy of Personal COBOL from Micro Focus when buying our texts. The software is billed as being compatible with both Windows 3.xx and Windows 95. In my case, the software wouldn't work in Windows 3.11. My version of Windows is WFWG v3.11 with WIN32s in effect. The error I get is Windows error 114. The error occurs when calling KNRL386.EXE. I have tried replacing KNRL386 with an older version and get the same error. The software refuses to operate at all. Recently, I have moved into a used DX4 machine to accommodate Windows 95. After installing the software into Win 95, it works fine. So, my question is "What is the problem here?" It seems to me it should work in both installations. My pet theory is that when the program was compiled by the programmer, he compiled it in a compiler installed on a Win 95 system causing it not to compile correctly for Win 3.11. My understanding is if a program is compiled for Windows it should work for all versions from 3.0 to 3.xx. If compiled for Win 95, it should work on all 32 bit systems operating Win 95. Am I getting to the hart of the problem here? So why doesn't it work in v3.11? Is it the installation floppies? Did the install sequence install the software incorrectly? The company says the software is compatible with v3.0 only. Am I getting the run around? This is important to me as I have gone to a great deal of trouble and cost to circumvent the problem in that I bought a used computer and upgraded it for Windows 95. On a student's budget, the cost was great. Daddy John ... "Yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again." - L. Long ___ B ~~~ ReneWave v1.01+ --- Renegade v10-05 Exp * Origin: The Hole In The Wall (303) 841-5515 USR V.34 (1:104/600) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F3E00028 Date: 03/07/98 From: JERRY SCHWARTZ Time: 08:33pm \/To: ROSS NAPIER (Read 3 times) Subj: DIY PC. MSDOS to load W95 [Feb 28, 98 - 21:56] Ross Napier of 2:252/110 wrote to All: RN> A friend sent me this message and was asking if there is another RN> way to load a Windows95 CD-ROM. If anyone knows, thanks in RN> advance. : RN> [] When you bulid your own pc from scratch there is nothing at RN> all on the system except the BIOS. (obviously) RN> In order to load windows 95 from the CD on the new system you RN> need to be able to get the pc to recognise the CD rom drive. To RN> do this you first have to install MSDOS, set up the autoexec.bat RN> and config.sys for the correct CDROM drivers and only then can RN> you install Windows 95. This is true except for certain newer PCs that can boot directly from (a specially formatted) CD. That being unlikely with a homebrew, you can generally get by with a bootable floppy that has MSCDEX and the appropriate driver for the CD-ROM on it. This may not be trivial to accomplish, because the installation software for the CD-ROM will probably presume a running hard drive system, etc. Once the system is up and going, it isn't too hard to make a floppy with the necessary drivers; but that first step is a doozy. Jerry Schwartz --- Msged/386 4.00 * Origin: Write by Night (1:142/928) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F3E00029 Date: 03/07/98 From: JERRY SCHWARTZ Time: 08:37pm \/To: KEN GILLAM (Read 3 times) Subj: Backup Help [Mar 02, 98 - 04:09] Ken Gillam of 2:251/21 wrote to All: KG> I have just had a major crash with W95 what I am after is a backup rogram KG> that will use removable media ie a ZIP drive, the W95 Backup program KG> expects a Tape drive or Floppys !!!! 1Gig on Floppies not me Bill! I thought that the Zip tools could do this, no? Jerry Schwartz --- Msged/386 4.00 * Origin: Write by Night (1:142/928) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F3E00030 Date: 03/07/98 From: KEITH HOOPER Time: 09:30pm \/To: BEN CARPENTER (Read 3 times) Subj: Win95 BC> Ok I took a look and found them but I am still not clear on BC> something. BC> When I boot (normal boot into Win95) do these files have any affect BC> on the system as it is booting like it did under DOS 6.xx or only when BC> I boot to DOS? Well, now I'm confused. I loaded a new mouse this morning. I got the mouse driver line entered into my autoexec.dos file but it still searches for my old driver. So I think I'm a little screwed up too. I was told that when you restart from Win95 to dos mode it uses these files. And I even added the ines to the regular autoexec.bat. But it still looks for my old driver when I go to dos mode. Anyone reading, any helpful suggestions. I'm thinking something has to be ammended in the registry. God I hate messing with Win95. In 3.1 his would be a no-brainer. But the *.dos files DO NOT affect your boot into in95. That much I'm sure of. Whether win95 even uses the Autoexec.bat or config.sys files is now a matter of contention. i just read earlier that these files don't even need to be on the system? I'm skeptical but would also like more info from anyone. ... A feature is a bug with seniority. ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: ::: The KBC BBS ::: (1:260/310)