--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500004 Date: 02/02/98 From: ROSS NAPIER Time: 07:39pm \/To: BOB REDL (Read 4 times) Subj: WIN95 DESKTOP ICONS BR> I was wondering if anyone can help me out here. I *don't* have BR> auto arrange icons turned on for my desktop however the icons BR> don't remain where I put them. At start-up they always end up BR> in columns on the left hand side of my desktop. BR> Is there anyway that I can stop this and have Win95 remember BR> where I want the icons located? Is your Startup Menu in AutoHide? I have problems like this, but Windows 95 decides when IT wants the menu to be in Autohide mode. I would also suggest clicking on AUOTOHIDE, you'd be surprised (perhaps). Ross --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: ICHTHUS (Reading), UK 0118-946-1466/4937 (2:252/110) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500005 Date: 02/01/98 From: STEVEN COWIE Time: 01:38am \/To: BOB REDL (Read 4 times) Subj: Win95 Desktop Icons Hi Bob BR> icons don't remain where I put them. At start-up they always BR> end up in columns on the left hand side of my desktop. BR> Is there anyway that I can stop this and have Win95 remember BR> where I want the icons located? BR> Any help on this matter is appreciated. all manner of things can cause this (even text and icon spacing can contribute) whatever the cause EZDEsk is a shareware util thats a god send for such probs At its most basic (EZDESK Tab) it can be used as an extra Tab in display properties and you can load and save icon layouts for each resolution. note the Tab version had problems with IE4 and Win98 I dont know if IE4 has a solution as yet but it seems to work OK on latest builds of 98 I've tried (1650) Steven C. --- * Origin: Stevens Point off of S.O.D (2:258/69.12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500006 Date: 02/04/98 From: JEFF EDMONSON Time: 11:06am \/To: TERRY G WRIGHT (Read 4 times) Subj: W3.11 and WFWG > TGW> A long time ago, this echo established that I was > TGW> running W3.11, not 3.1, because all the > TGW> important files had the time stamp 03:11. Sounds reasonable. > TGW> I am now being told by people who know *very* much more > TGW> about computers than I do, that W3.11 and WFWG are > TGW> essentially the same thing. Nope. > They are wrong. Win 3.11 and WFWG 3.11 are > two different animals. > Win 3.11 is merely an update on Win 3.1 to > correct some bugs in the software. This is a correct statement. > TGW> This strikes me as strange. I cannot find any > TGW> networking capability in W3.11. Because Microsoft Windows 3.11 doesn't have network support. Microsoft Windows For Workgroups, version 3.11 DOES. ;-) > TGW> So that I can identify what I have, can anyone tell me > TGW> if WFWG has distinctive file names and/or extensions, etc.? > Since I don't have WFWG, I don't know the answer to > this one, although the Win 3.11 that I got when I bought > my machine did have networking software on it. I just > haven't used it since I've only have the one computer. I've got it here. The original install files have a date on them of 11-01-93, and they've all got a time of 03:11 (ver number). I've since moved to '95 (note I didn't call it an upgrade) but the install of '95 was successful, directly over WFWG 3.11. Regards, -Jeff --- FMail 1.02 * Origin: Electronic Avenue BBS 210-533-5668 San Antonio, TX (1:387/510) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500007 Date: 02/03/98 From: ALAIN GOHIER Time: 07:05pm \/To: TERRY G WRIGHT (Read 4 times) Subj: W3.11 and WFWG Yellow, Terry ! TGW> A long time ago, this echo established that I was running W3.11, not TGW>3.1, because all the important files had the time stamp 03:11. So ? :) I have here some disks with the mention Windows For WorkGroups 3.11 on 3.5". It is in french, but I'll do the translation. Path: A:\ 2-03-98 18:38:15 DISK1 . 8 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 WIN .CN_ 8,503 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 COMMCTRL.DL_ 30,235 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 KBDFC .DL_ 2,076 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 NCDW .DL_ 23,031 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 WFWSETUP.DL_ 159,767 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 INSTALL .EXE 255,781 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 XMSMMGR .EXE 14,208 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 GDI .EX_ 148,276 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 KRNL386 .EX_ 53,240 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 USER .EX_ 174,320 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 WINHELP .EX_ 148,429 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 WINSETUP.EX_ 106,849 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 CONTROL .HL_ 115,977 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 INSTALL .HL_ 57,110 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 SETUP .INF 59,776 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 SETUP .SHH 8,858 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 INSTALL .TXT 57,395 .a.. 11-01-93 3:11:00 This is the first disk of WFWG 3.11 French. File: A:\INSTALL.TXT INSTALL.TXT =========== This file contains some informations onto possibles problems you can encounter when Install of Windows for WorkGroups is loaded, or when you try to use some TSR ou manager with Install of WFWG 3.11 . If you use a TSR and have some difficulties to install WFWG, read others infos below BEFORE executing another time Install. **** SNIP **** Now, for Information, I have Windows 3.1 with the Win32S extention installed. I have, in c:\windows\ A bunch of MicroSoft files which are 3:00:00... 4 files " " " " are 3:10:00. ;) 1 file " MS 95, Ding.wav, which is 3:11:00. :) In c:\windows\system\ 2 files from MS at 3:00:00... A bunch of MS Files at 3:10:00... 1 file BWCC.DLL at 3:11:00... In the sub-directory c:\windows\system\win32s\ All files are 00:00:00... What I already know now is that my Win 3.1 is Win32S compliant (I can run some W95 applications...), I have some Plus! files in it, and I have all 32 bit-access in Control Panel/Virtual Memory. Which is impossible just with a bare Win 3.1 installation... TGW> I am now being told by people who know *very* much more about computers TGW>than I do, that W3.11 and WFWG are essentially the same thing. Look. The procedure for Windows (NT not there, of course...) : A) Windows 286. B) Windows 3.0 . C) Windows 3.1 . D) Windows 3.11 . E) Windows For WorkGroups 3.11 . F) Windows 95 ... G) Win32S for Win 3.1 systems... H) Windows 98 sometimes. ;) So many versions for the same purpose... TGW> This strikes me as strange. I cannot find any networking capability in TGW>W3.11. So that I can identify what I have, can anyone tell me if WFWG as TGW>distinctive file names and/or extensions, etc.? Load Windows, your copy. Point the mouse to the Help Menu. Seclect About. What is there ? Alain --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: SUP-TECH * Longueuil * 1-514(468-4744) (1:167/500.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500008 Date: 01/27/98 From: DACHA VUKOTIC Time: 05:56pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: System.1st What function has file SYSTEM.1ST in root of hard disk ? On my system,it's about 1.5 Mb,but on my friend's it's only 400 Kb ! I am using Windows 95 :) ... E-Mail : daffy@ep.dea.co.yu Netmail: FidoNET (2:382/182) Z32 (32:382/182) SetNET (38:103/182) --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Education Power Bgd,SRJ +381-11-788-733 (2:382/182) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500009 Date: 02/03/98 From: BILL DAWSON Time: 03:06pm \/To: TERRY G WRIGHT (Read 4 times) Subj: W3.11 and WFWG -=> Quoting BUD JAMISON to TERRY G WRIGHT <=- -> I am now being told by people who know *very* much more about -> computers than I do, that W3.11 and WFWG are essentially the same -> thing. BJ> Not at all. WFW has networking support, a MUCH better comm driver, BJ> and other changes. It's 'compatible' with W3.1 as far as programs go, BJ> though. -> This strikes me as strange. I cannot find any networking -> capability in W3.11. So that I can identify what I have, can anyone -> tell me if WFWG has distinctive file names and/or extensions, etc.? File dates are the best guide. WfWg 3.11 was out first, in Novem- ber, 1993. Windows 3.11, the plain critter, has 1994 or 1995 file dates (can't recall which -- never had that one here). BJ> You can't just look at the files and know which is which Bud forgot about the file dates. AFAIK, there was only one version of each, so any files after 11- (gotta look -- hold on -- OK, it's 11-1-1993 ) would be the non- Workgroup one. BJ> The opening screen will tell you which version you have. But it won't BJ> know about any files you've used from the 'other' version. BJ> BTW, maybe your friend DOESN'T know as much as you give him credit BJ> for? Which you obviously suspected, or you wouldn''t have asked. Bill D ... Yes, do like all smart motorists. Choose Crelm toothpaste. --- RemoteAccess 2.50+ * Origin: Northern Lights! * San Antonio * 210-499-6299 V34/VFC (1:387/23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500010 Date: 02/04/98 From: CLARENCE HOGAN Time: 06:31am \/To: KASSAUNDRA AUSTIN (Read 4 times) Subj: Windows 3.11 License -=> Quoting Kassaundra Austin to Clarence Hogan <=- KA> hi Hi ya' SPITFIRE...which one of these letters are you hiding behind? Don't be so bashful...come on out and say a word or three! :) I don't bite but I might gum ya' a little! :) We got relatives in NY but I don't think that they would be any kin to you! :) KA> * SPITFIRE v3.5 KA> ! Origin: The Roost *Union Hill NY* 716-265-9784 (1:2613/160.0) Just another humble servant of The Kingdom.......clarence....... ... I am honest, loyal, decent and house broken, ya' want me? --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: UltraTech - Nashville, TN (615)356-0453 {V.34/V.FC} (1:116/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500011 Date: 02/03/98 From: DAVE BREHM Time: 05:35am \/To: JOHN WILLIAMSON (Read 4 times) Subj: bypassing -=> Quoting Jerry Schwartz to John Williamson <=- JS> [Jan 26, 98 - 11:36] John Williamson of 2:254/5.17 wrote to All: JW> Anyone know of a Win/ command that bypasses the startup menu???? John, Win / n will bypass the opening "Windows" screen is that what you mean ??? Dv dbrehm@worldnet.att.net dbrehm@juno.com Logging in from Lyndie Computer & Broadcast Service - South Bend, IN ... If it screams, it's best not to eat it. --- Blue Wave/QBBS v2.30 [NR] * Origin: The >>>SQUAWK<<< Box ***Vetlink #27*** (1:227/291.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500012 Date: 02/03/98 From: WILL LUKE Time: 09:11pm \/To: BOB REDL (Read 4 times) Subj: Win95 Desktop Icons Bob, -> Is there anyway that I can stop this and have Win95 remember -> where I want the icons located? Try right-clicking on the desktop, and make sure "Arrange Icons" is unchecked, then move the icons around...that might do it. Regards, Will --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: FONiX Info Systems * Berkshire UK * +44 1344 641625 (2:252/171) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500013 Date: 02/04/98 From: TIM WONG Time: 06:55pm \/To: KARL SCHNEIDER (Read 4 times) Subj: funny video card Hello Karl: On Tue Feb 03, 1998 at 11:22, you wrote to Tim Wong saying: TW>> What does a socket designed for SOJ chips look like? KS> Hi Tim...it has vertical contacts, somewhat like a 386 CPU KS> socket and the chip has sort of 'nubs' instead of long KS> pins. It makes contact by squeezing in between the rows of KS> socket pins. TW>> I was under the impression that the "SOJ" packages were TW>> designed to be surface soldered rather than inserted into TW>> a socket. If that is KS> No, they aren't sm devices. I just looked at some 1M strips and they look like SOJ. Also "The Ultimate Memory Guide" from Kingston says that SIMMs use either the SOJ or the TSOP package. TW>> not so, I would tend to think that there is something TW>> wrong w/ the socket(s) on your Diamond card or maybe a TW>> broken trace. KS> I dunno, I looked at it pretty close, but could have missed KS> something. I wonder how well those bent under pins hold their shape when squeezed by those nubs. Is the base (included when bought) RAM also of the SOJ variety? tturs: Tim [InterNet - mailto:teewong@intergate.bc.ca] ... Good writing mirrors the authors' respect for Karl's thoughts. --- GoldED/386 2.50+ is the premiere EMail reader! * Origin: A rare medium well done. (1:153/715.11)