--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2300006 Date: 02/03/98 From: JOHN THOMPSON Time: 11:32am \/To: TERRY G WRIGHT (Read 4 times) Subj: W3.11 and wfwg In a message to ALL, TERRY G WRIGHT wrote re: W3.11 AND WFWG TW> A long time ago, this echo established that I was running W3.11, not 3.1, TW> because all the important files had the time stamp 03:11. TW> I am now being told by people who know *very* much more about computers TW> than I do, that W3.11 and WFWG are essentially the same thing. TW> This strikes me as strange. I cannot find any networking capability in TW> W3.11. So that I can identify what I have, can anyone tell me if WFWG as TW> distinctive file names and/or extensions, etc.? Windows v3.11 is not the same as Windows for Workgroups v3.11; as you point out, Win v3.11 has no inherent networking ability. WfWG also seems to use the 03:11 time stamp, though. The load-up "splash screen" is different, though; Windows for Workgroups sahs just that, while plain Windows only says "Microsoft Windows." You can check this by simply restarting Windows or loading the WINDOWS/SYSTEM/VGALOGO.RLE file into an image viewer. Otherwise, look for some of the network-specific files (NET*.*) although these may not have been installed if you didn't install network support. SCHDPLUS.* is also only part of Windows for Workgroups. --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.4P1a * Origin: TeLnEt tO: applegate.com, a BBS oN tHE iNterNET (1:139/631) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2400000 Date: 02/03/98 From: MIKE BINKHURST Time: 11:45am \/To: JOHN RAMBO (Read 4 times) Subj: PhBk Hi again I installed COMIT From the Phone Directory I hilite an entry and press enter to dial it Result: RxTx flicker then AT&F&C1&D2\Q3&Q5 is displayed then ERROR+++ --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Library COM -* Reno, NV USA *- (702) 785-4191 (1:213/742) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2400001 Date: 02/03/98 From: BOB REDL Time: 05:26pm \/To: ROBERT FOWLER (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Win95 dll -=> QUOTING: Robert Fowler to Bob Redl - 02-02-98 23:18 <=- >>> SUBJECT: Win95 dll <<< RF> [Quoting Bob Redl to Jerry Schwartz] BR> BR> In my Windows/System folder, I have a file named CTL3D32.DLL > BR> version 2.31.00 dated 7/13/95. I have no idea where this > BR> dll came from but I get an error message that this particular > BR> dll is for Windows NT. BR>I'm not really sure what to do now, but I appreciate your comments. RF> Bob, I came across something tonight which might be of use. TweakUI, RF> part of the MS Powertoys has a button on the "repair" tab titled RF> "repair system files". The help on this button states that it will RF> repair damaged or overwritten files (gives an example of a dll) RF> providing the file is in the \windows\sysbckup (hidden) folder. RF> My ctl3d32.dll (ver2.29.00) is not in this backup folder. This would RF> suggest to me that Windows does not require this file. RF> I also have a freeware program called Clean System Directory which RF> scans for all references to dll's in the \windows\system folder and RF> (optionally) removes them to a temp folder if it detects they are not RF> needed. RF> You could test your folder, and if the file does return as being used, RF> move it away and see what app calls for it. Then you would probably RF> need an older version (I have 2.29.00) RF> BTW, I downloaded your dll from Compuserve today and could find no RF> reference in Quick View (or the file info on CSI) to NT. It seems to RF> be a generic Windows dll. Thanks for the reply Robert. I have TweakUI also, however, it doesn't repair or fix my current problem. The freeware program you have called Clean System Directory is something that I might find useful. If I can determine which program calls the dll in question, I might have a better chance of fixing the problem. Where did you get this program from? If you have internet access, would it be possible to attach the file to a message and send it up my way? My e-mail address is bob@dlcwest.com. Thanks for you help Bob ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GE 1.20 Pro/WC 4.20 * Origin: .\\averick 2 BBS - ALLFIX - GECHO - USR 28.8 (1:140/117) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2400002 Date: 02/03/98 From: KASSAUNDRA AUSTIN Time: 03:24pm \/To: CLARENCE HOGAN (Read 4 times) Subj: Windows 3.11 License hi --- * SPITFIRE v3.5 --- SFScan v2.6 (beta) * Origin: The Roost *Union Hill NY* 716-265-9784 (1:2613/160.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2400003 Date: 02/03/98 From: JOHN THOMPSON Time: 08:55pm \/To: TERRY G WRIGHT (Read 4 times) Subj: W3.11 AND WFWG In a message to ALL, TERRY G WRIGHT wrote re: W3.11 AND WFWG TW> A long time ago, this echo established that I was running W3.11, not 3.1, TW> because all the important files had the time stamp 03:11. TW> I am now being told by people who know *very* much more about computers TW> than I do, that W3.11 and WFWG are essentially the same thing. TW> This strikes me as strange. I cannot find any networking capability in TW> W3.11. So that I can identify what I have, can anyone tell me if WFWG as TW> distinctive file names and/or extensions, etc.? Windows v3.11 is not the same as Windows for Workgroups v3.11; as you point out, Win v3.11 has no inherent networking ability. WfWG also seems to use the 03:11 time stamp, though. The load-up "splash screen" is different, though; Windows for Workgroups sahs just that, while plain Windows only says "Microsoft Windows." You can check this by simply restarting Windows or loading the WINDOWS/SYSTEM/VGALOGO.RLE file into an image viewer. Otherwise, look for some of the network-specific files (NET*.*) although these may not have been installed if you didn't install network support. SCHDPLUS.* is also only part of Windows for Workgroups. --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.4P1a * Origin: TeLnEt tO: applegate.com, a BBS oN tHE iNterNET (1:139/631) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2400004 Date: 02/03/98 From: WILLIAM MAC ARTHUR Time: 09:43am \/To: TERRY G WRIGHT (Read 4 times) Subj: W3.11 and WFWG -=> Quoting Terry G Wright to All <=- TGW> Hallo All, TGW> A long time ago, this echo established that I was TGW> running W3.11, not 3.1, because all the important files had TGW> the time stamp 03:11. TGW> I am now being told by people who know *very* much more TGW> about computers than I do, that W3.11 and WFWG are TGW> essentially the same thing. They are wrong. Win 3.11 and WFWG 3.11 are two different animals. Win 3.11 is merely an update on Win 3.1 to correct some bugs in the software. TGW> This strikes me as strange. I cannot find any TGW> networking capability in W3.11. So that I can identify TGW> what I have, can anyone tell me if WFWG has distinctive TGW> file names and/or extensions, etc.? Since I don't have WFWG, I don't know the answer to this one, although the Win 3.11 that I got when I bought my machine did have networking software on it. I just haven't used it since I've only have the one computer. TGW> Regards: TGW> Terry G Wright TGW> t.wright@obsdata.com TGW> ... Caution: living too long may be fatal. TGW> -!- GoldED 2.50+ TGW> ! Origin: Estepona, Costa del Sol, Spain (2:345/210.25) *********************************************** * William Mac Arthur * * North Miami, FL * * e-mail: d010991c@dcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us * * e-mail: d010991c@dc.seflin.org * *********************************************** ... FIDE ET OPERA ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Ramblin' Roots * Miami, FL * (305) 221-1571 * HST* (1:135/54) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500000 Date: 02/04/98 From: ROBERT FOWLER Time: 02:09pm \/To: BOB REDL (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Win95 dll [Quoting Bob Redl to Robert Fowler] BR>The freeware program you have called Clean System Directory is something >that I might find useful. If I can determine which program calls the >dll in question, I might have a better chance of fixing the problem. BR>Where did you get this program from? If you have internet access, >would it be possible to attach the file to a message and send it up >my way? My e-mail address is bob@dlcwest.com. File on the way....RF --- OLX 2.2 TD Evolution is not a uniform process. * Origin: Fido Backbone Mail & More! telnet://docsplace.dyn.ml (1:3603/140) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500001 Date: 02/03/98 From: JOHN ZORTMAN Time: 01:08am \/To: BILL DAWSON (Read 4 times) Subj: Parameter BD> JZ> Yes you can have a start up group and yes it will load and run the BD> JZ> software in it when Win 3.1 or WG4W is booted. BD>"BZZT!" Wrong guess, Johnny! Ok, Billy! He did however use the word Start Up, but whatever... * SLMR 2.1a * Affirmative action rewards underachievement. --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.3 * Origin: Seventh Star - York, PA (717)-225-7256 (1:2700/111) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500002 Date: 02/03/98 From: LUC LEBRUN Time: 03:14pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: curseurs win 3.1 * Crossposted from: [R3] - Windows Salut tous... Y'a tu quelqu'un qui sait comment faire pour remplacer les curseurs par des curseurs anims dans windows 3.1? A l'aide s.v.p. J'attends de vos nouvelles... Luc LeBrun http://www.megaquebec.com/users/poilu poilu@megaquebec.com ... Z'auriez pas vu la fin du monde? 1re porte gauche! Ah..!! --- FMailX 1.40g * Origin: [fido] cool.world <-> Quebec City 418.843.0162 (1:240/99) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F2500003 Date: 02/01/98 From: DON BOSMAN Time: 10:31am \/To: WILL LUKE (Read 4 times) Subj: Wholesale WL>I will be needing to buy a *lot* of PC parts (simms, CPUs - about 200 WL>in all) soon, and wondered if anyone knows where I can get these parts WL>from; without using a middle-man; i.e, a PC Parts distributor. There are lots of answers, but much depends on exactly what you will be doing with the parts. A chip broker will be the best bet if all you really want is the silicon mentioned above. e-mail me at dbosman@pilot.msu.edu and I will forward the name and phone number for one that we used to use quite often. I don't use them much for memory anymore due to the changes that SDRAM have provided the industry. Currently we buy RAM from our motherboard supplier to guarantee a match. We fried too many 32 meg DIMMs before making this decision. They don't like orders under a grand so I won't post the number here. If you are buying parts to upgrade a company network, brokers can be great suppliers. If you are buying parts to build a company network, please reconsider. Purchasing systems with warranties will save your IT/IS tech support staff a LOT of grief in the long and short run. A company I'm working with now, builds their own systems and the senior tech ends up spending hours going over what the junior techs can't make work because they have no standard configuration. Most of the waste comes in lost time diagnosing problems in "bleeding edge" components, from the seniors tech having bought what ever HE wanted to play with, when ever, where ever, at near the lowest cost. There aren't twenty matching machines out of the two hundred plus on the campus. Can you guess that stability of users systems is a big problem in this network? ;-) * OLX 2.2 * Odo, is there any more Jello in the fridge? Odo? Odo? --- T.A.G. 2.7c Standard * Origin: The Abacus * v.32/v.42 * (517)645-7343 * Node 1 (1:159/100)