--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 200 PRO AUDIO Ref: D2T00003 Date: 02/21/96 From: T OWEN Time: 09:12am \/To: LASZLO SOKOLAI (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: D.J.'s -=> Quoting Laszlo Sokolai to Yves Poirier <=- YP > LS> Being YP > LS> chosen over bryston because audiopro amps are YP > LS> transparent as the Bryston classics and 3B NRB, and 3b- YP > LS> ST series. Cheap amps, but if you want bone rattling YP > LS> bass, you need 2 ap3000's to equal ONE QSC EX 4000 watt amp. So the AP's are compareble to the old Brystons? They must have been doing their homework at AP, if they sound as good as a Bryston! Of course, the new Brystons, with their improved output stages, are VERY nice, accurate, musical amps, with that 20 year warranty, which makes them quite attractive. As to the QSC's, while you can almost weld mild steel with their outputs, they have to be loaded so heavily to produce the advertised power levels, that distortion is increased by a large factor. QSC's don't sound great to start with, and at 2 ohms they are hard to listen to for any length of time. Some folks feel that this is ok for low frequency repro; I am not one of those folks. In my opinion, a 4 ohm load is a compromise, and 2 ohms is just asking for trouble; not to mention poor sound. That sort of thing may be ok for disco or DJ work, but for accurate repro, you really need the rails, and those monster amps just don't cut it. Take care. --- Blue Wave/RA v2.30 * Origin: Computer Castle / 20 Lines / Newton, NH / 603-382-0338 (1:324/127) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 200 PRO AUDIO Ref: D2T00004 Date: 02/22/96 From: T OWEN Time: 06:34pm \/To: TIMOTHY TRACE (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Power Amps -=> Quoting Timothy Trace to Laszlo Sokolai <=- TT> Ummm..if you want "bone rattling bass", you'd better getcherself a TT> pair of VZ-5ks and drive four Basstech 7's with 'em. Yup! The '7 is a great speaker, no doubt about that; strap 'em together, and they sound like one HUGE horn. I love them. TT> On a dismal note for the EX4000, recently our company sublet racks and TT> stacks to a Chattanooga provider and got the shit kicked out of our TT> EX4000/4842 bottom end by their MT2400's driving Community VBS-415s. The 415's are most impressive, true. Personally, I think that they are one of the most dynamic and musical sounding boxes on the market. I did a gig up in Maine with 8 of them a side in a big field, and was instantly hooked, but they *do* need a ton of power TT> Ah, well. Live 'n learn, eh? And buy nothing but Crown for your TT> bottom end. The Crown certainly has the rails, and with the output of those beasts it is hard to beat 'em for low end drive. Rugged too. There are better sounding amps out there, but not at those power levels. TT> Do you get H.T.I.C.S.' used equipment list? I got mine today, and TT> it was hilarious to see that Bill had described a MT10k as a "room TT> air conditioner with binding posts"... A good description. You could heat a small house with one of those things running full out, too. Take care. ... It's tourist season? Where do I get a license? --- Blue Wave/RA v2.30 * Origin: Computer Castle / 20 Lines / Newton, NH / 603-382-0338 (1:324/127) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 200 PRO AUDIO Ref: D2T00005 Date: 02/23/96 From: T OWEN Time: 07:05pm \/To: JASON LAVOIE (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Mic Spliters -=> Quoting Jason Lavoie to Barry Burke <=- BB> Your experience was the reason why I dropped the bucks for a phase BB> checking device. It never lied. JL> how exactly would one of these work? This isn't exact, but one unit sends a pulse, and the other unit analyzes the polarity of the pulse. Most of these can be used on individual cables, mics, or an entire repro chain. Well worth the money; wish I had the money..... Say hi to Snowy Owl for me. Take care. ... Practice senseless acts of careless randomness ... --- Blue Wave/RA v2.30 * Origin: Computer Castle / 20 Lines / Newton, NH / 603-382-0338 (1:324/127) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 200 PRO AUDIO Ref: D2U00000 Date: 02/24/96 From: JOHANN MATTESON Time: 01:09pm \/To: SAM DUDEJA (Read 4 times) Subj: Cakewalk Pro Audio *** Quoting Sam Dudeja to All dated 02-20-96 *** > I would like to know, what would u reccomend, a session8 or a turtle > beach monterey card??? i know session8 runs for about $4000, and > turtle > beach card for $400 U.S., would my cakewalk audio run with turtle > beach? Turtle Beach is no longer producing the Monterey or the Tahiti. yes they will work but support(?) Supposedly they are working on a new card (Pinnacle) that is basically a Monterey with digital I/O. The session 8 is pricey but is probably a safer deal. --- T.A.G. 2.7c Standard * Origin: The Music Connection..the original since 1987 (1:106/1000) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 200 PRO AUDIO Ref: D2W00000 Date: 02/26/96 From: TERRY SMITH Time: 01:00am \/To: DREW HOHMANN (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: big, big, big sound! -> to 70-80 Amps. I wouldn't be surpised to see 1 AWG Al (service wire -> is often high temp rated, and not subject to the cooling restriction -> or flammables exposure of indoor wiring). 1/0 Cu would be nice. You DH> Note that 1/0 Cu is only rated to 150 amps (at room temp of course). Wire often has numerous ratings, based on temperature in an openly cooled, restricted, or bundled with other heat source (active conductors) environment, or based on thermal withstanding of anything from the wire itself to insulation or nearby material. It can also be based on allowable loss limits. In power amps we're talking about transient loads except during sustained RMS tests, and as such may accept transients above nominal circuit ampacity. Speaker wire should be constrained by damping factor, and only by heat in such poor systems as to hardly be worthy of discussion. DH> When your talking that much current, would it be practical to start DH> biwiring stuff, and/or using 220-240V service? It seems easy enough to DH> run 2 or more 110-120V lines and hook them both up to 1 amp. Then you Either way, that's 240. Ideally, in portable equipment used in systems not so big as to always require its own sub panel feed (like a 50 kW PA), 120 V 15-20 A is a nice working limit. Beyond that, go with more smaller amps that can have loads distributed if needed. DH> can use 1/0 Cu and run an easy 100 amps per line. Of course, if you did DH> that your essentially doubling voltage, correct? Add a 2:1 (or whatever DH> ratio you need) transformer at the end to drop the voltage too 110V, DH> (making sure it can handle the amperage of course). Actually, by the Might as well get amps with 240 inputs then, as xfmrs resist the transient currents. For a really big power amp, why not direct rectify the 13.8 kV lines? It's possibly to make some several hundred kW amps with just pairs of tubes as finals using those voltages. Terry --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Do it near resonance! (203)732-0575 BPCN in CT (1:141/1275) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 200 PRO AUDIO Ref: D3100000 Date: 02/27/96 From: PAUL WHITEMAN Time: 01:28pm \/To: BOB BLOUNT (Read 5 times) Subj: radio interference proble BB>See if you can get him to buy a Carvin. Best-shielded guitars and basses >I've seen anywhere, at any price! (Don't tell him, but they also play >better than Strats!) :-) Yeah!!!!! Paul Paul Whiteman * 1st 2.00 #1346s * Bass Players do it with more depth! --- PCBoard (R) v15.22 (OS/2) 10 * Origin: FidoNet: CAP/CANADA Support BBS : 416-287-0234 (1:250/710) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 200 PRO AUDIO Ref: D3100001 Date: 02/27/96 From: PAUL WHITEMAN Time: 01:32pm \/To: RICHARD WEBB (Read 5 times) Subj: radio interference probl BB> See if you can get him to buy a Carvin. Best-shielded guitars and BB> basses I've seen anywhere, at any price! (Don't tell him, but they also BB> play better than Strats!) :-) RW>Wouldn't know, as I"m mainly an acoustic guitarist, electric bassist >though. >I've heard good things about them, though. Yeah!!!! (Revision 2). I've got two of their six string basses!! Luv & X's Paul Paul Whiteman --- 1st 2.00 #1346s If a singer is knocking, he's coming in at the wrong time! * Origin: FidoNet: CAP/CANADA Support BBS : 416-287-0234 (1:250/710) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 200 PRO AUDIO Ref: D3100002 Date: 02/29/96 From: ETIENNE DESCHENES Time: 04:03pm \/To: LASZLO SOKOLAI (Read 5 times) Subj: power amp hey i'm loking for an ap1200 and i was wondering if you would know or have an ap1200 for sale. if you do please leave me a msg. D.J. ED Sound Masters Mobile D.J. --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: The Cybernetic Jungle. Ottawa, ON 613-746-1025 (1:163/551) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 200 PRO AUDIO Ref: D3300000 Date: 02/26/96 From: SAM DUDEJA Time: 11:32pm \/To: JOHANN MATTESON (Read 5 times) Subj: Cakewalk Pro Audio Thanks alot for the info on the new Pinnacle card. I went onto the Turtle Beach website for their products a few weeks ago, but haven't had much news about the Pinnacle as of yet... Thanks again Sam. stress@vir.com --- Squish v1.11 * Origin: * McBBSadv - Mtl.(514) 697-7184 14.4 V32B V42bis (1:167/119) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 200 PRO AUDIO Ref: D3300001 Date: 02/26/96 From: SAM DUDEJA Time: 11:33pm \/To: ALL (Read 5 times) Subj: Wanted!!! I am in DESPERATE search for anyone selling a USED -- ANALOG SYNTHESISER (with Midi capabilities) if you are selling, and the price is right, then i am buying... reply here or at stress@vir.com Sam. Protocol House Records. --- Squish v1.11 * Origin: * McBBSadv - Mtl.(514) 697-7184 14.4 V32B V42bis (1:167/119)