--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00957 Date: 05/01/98 From: RON TAYLOR Time: 08:09am \/To: MIKE MCCANN (Read 0 times) Subj: Commandeering > RW> don't want to allow people to hear what they are doing > RW> so. . . >Civilians have no innate right tio know EVERYTHING. Why not. --- * QMPro 1.02 42-7029 * Please handle carefully, this tagline is fragile. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: CrimeBytes:Take A MegaByte Out Of Crime! (305)592-9831 1:135/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00958 Date: 05/01/98 From: RON TAYLOR Time: 02:53pm \/To: TOM RIGHTMER (Read 0 times) Subj: Emergency Vehicle Operati TR> MR> What i mean is, i've seen officers at a red light, turn on their > MR> lights go through the light, then turn off their lights and procded t > MR> the speed limit with no other reason of running the light other then > MR> they didnt want to wait. >and ask. If there was no reason, the officer would be disciplined. There are >numerous calls that this tactic would be quite proper [big snip] You didn't mention the case where an officer is dispatched to a (in your terms) full emergency. He hits the blues and almost immediately dispatch says, "disregard". I've seen it happen more than once. With Mr. Murphy running things as usual, it will probably happen somewhere near an intersection. --- * QMPro 1.02 42-7029 * I'll show you my tagline if you'll show me yours. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: CrimeBytes:Take A MegaByte Out Of Crime! (305)592-9831 1:135/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00959 Date: 05/01/98 From: RON TAYLOR Time: 03:06pm \/To: CHRISTOPHER COYNE (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Teenage Smoking CC>RT> I truly wish that all smokers were banned to their own area and I >RT> applaud any establishment with the conscience to protect those unwilling >RT> to inhale tobacco smoke. CC>RT> I had this thread on my mind this weekend also... I addressed some of my >RT> observations in another thread to xxcarol. >I don't know, I think your theory is a little hash, me being a non-smoker >myself. We each have our own opinions. Whatever must be done to insure that I can breath air that is free from tobacco smoke while enjoying the same activities as others is the very least that I will settle for. >I have one rule: I usually don't care if anybody smokes, just >don't do it in my room or blow it in my face. Huh? Where do we disagree? --- * QMPro 1.02 42-7029 * Why can't you find a tagline when you need one? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: CrimeBytes:Take A MegaByte Out Of Crime! (305)592-9831 1:135/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00960 Date: 05/01/98 From: RON TAYLOR Time: 03:11pm \/To: CHRISTOPHER COYNE (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Teenage Smoking CC>RT> Lets allow the workers to use their hands to handle food. > Excuse me, but how EXACTLY do you think your food's handled? Perhaps I should have said _bare_ hands then you might have understood? > This >is coming from a certified food handler of Mesquite myself. You expect us >to use our feet or something? You should be addressing the question to Mr. Wilbanks. He is the one that wants to get government out of the restaurant business. BTW... do you actually _read_ a post before you get sarcastic? And, when you quote, use enough of the context as to not change the intent of the message. --- * QMPro 1.02 42-7029 * If life is like a highway, I feel like a roadkill. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: CrimeBytes:Take A MegaByte Out Of Crime! (305)592-9831 1:135/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00961 Date: 05/01/98 From: RON TAYLOR Time: 03:13pm \/To: MARK RACIBORSKI (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Legality of Commande MR>-> officer had his lights on with enough warning, would be cited for >-> failure to yield. The officer may also have been told to run silent >-> a crime may have been in progress. On the other hand, if the there w >There was at most 1 car lengths distance between the bus and the side >of the patrol car and HOV is High Occupancy Vichieal, its just like a >car pool lane, you have to have more then 1 person in it to be able to >drive in the lane. Don't forget to mention that the speed limit is the same for HOV lanes as for normal traffic lanes. 125 MPH under ANY circumstance other than an enclosed race track is foolhardy, dangerous, and in most cases, illegal. --- * QMPro 1.02 42-7029 * Give me liberty, not equality --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: CrimeBytes:Take A MegaByte Out Of Crime! (305)592-9831 1:135/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00962 Date: 05/01/98 From: RON TAYLOR Time: 03:18pm \/To: MARK RACIBORSKI (Read 0 times) Subj: Legality of Commandeering MR>-> Are there any statistics on accidents involving propane powered >-> vehicles? >- >I dont belive there are enough propane powered vehicles to even equal >.001% infact the only things i know that use propane to propelle their >engines is little fork lifts and such things used for transportation >say around a golf course or lumber yard. Then you aren't quite as automotive knowledgeable as you purport to be. While you are learning to talk about Mickey Thompson slicks and nitrous, try learning some about the real world, then impress us with your knowledge of what factors affect the safety of yourself, your passengers, and the other innocent motorist on the road. --- * QMPro 1.02 42-7029 * Prejudice is opinion not supported by evidence --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: CrimeBytes:Take A MegaByte Out Of Crime! (305)592-9831 1:135/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00963 Date: 05/01/98 From: RON TAYLOR Time: 03:26pm \/To: BARBARA MCNAY (Read 0 times) Subj: Use Your Handbrake! BM> > BM> Slightly off topic also, but since standard transmissions have enjoye > > BM> a comeback, it's worth telling: When I took driver's education in hi > > BM> school way back when, we were explicitly and carefully taught to how > > BM> on a hill. We were taken to a steep hill for practise. Put on your > > BM> put the car in first, let the clutch out and step on the gas graduall > > BM> as usual. When the car pulls forward on the brake, then let the brak > > BM> off. No slippage. A similar tactic will work for backing out of a p BM> > Learned that trick too, but there is a level of slope > > involved where the handbreak wont do much good. Most > > of the USA has fairly flat land. Try Hawaii or the > > Blue Ridge for an example of what I mean. BM>Mmm. Just my opinion, of course, Carol, but if the handbrake doesn't do >much good, I'd say it needs fixing. I have to agree with you. However, there are many vehicles that don't have a "hand" brake. My Chevy van for example. The _emergency_ brake is a pedal that locks down when depressed. To release it, you pull a T-handle. The above procedure would be impractical. --- * QMPro 1.02 42-7029 * All rising to a great place is by a winding stair. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: CrimeBytes:Take A MegaByte Out Of Crime! (305)592-9831 1:135/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00964 Date: 05/01/98 From: RICH WILLBANKS Time: 09:04pm \/To: BOB RUDOLPH (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: ALI RELASED RW> A full auto HANDGUN would be IMPOSSIBLE to use well. RW> If the weight was low enough to make it firable one BR> I've never used one, so I don't know. The Glock design BR> seems to be easier to shoot well than my Dad's 1911 - BR> something about barrel placement relative to hand location BR> and torque moment about the axis of the barrel pivot point You are talking about semi-auto fire, full auto is an entirely different critter. One reason you'll find that most special ops (military) do not fire full auto at all is the fact that the rds fired to rds on target is way too big. These are men who train day in and day out with their weapons. BR> or attach point. ANYTHING can be learned - but whether BR> it's worth it I can't say. You can't learn to over come the laws of physics. Each time the weapon fires you get recoil and muzzle flip. When that rate of fire reaches a certain point you can no longer over come the recoil and flip. At that point the weapon continues to climb which pulls the rounds off target. RW> BR> seriously doubg they'd be built if there weren't a RW> BR> perceived need, in the form of a market. Around here, all RW> They were designed and produced at the request of the RW> pentagon. Like a lot of weapon designs it was thought RW> up by someone who didn't really know what he was doing. RW> It was thought that the special ops types could use it. RW> Needless to say NOBODY wanted it. BR> The Swiss cops use it for something - Glock takes its orders I have never seen where anyone used the full auto version. BR> other places than the Pentagon. Now Beretta might've done BR> smething for the Pentagon since they got the military BR> business, but I doubt Glock cares much what those domes BR> want. You got to be kidding. Every arms manufacture in the world wants a Pentagon contract, the same for most large Police weapons contract. Remember: Freedom isn't Free! --- timEd-B11 * Origin: My BBS * Dover, TN * (1:379/301.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00965 Date: 05/01/98 From: RICH WILLBANKS Time: 09:29pm \/To: RON TAYLOR (Read 0 times) Subj: Teenage Smoking RW>That's correct. That's because I believe in personal >freedom and individual rights. If I want to use a >legal product that may kill me then the government >should stick its nose up its a$$ and not into my >business. RT> And I agree 100% with you. But you should assume NO right RT> to impose your activity on me. When was the last time a smoker held you down and blew smoke in your face? I have NEVER been required or forced into a place where I had to breath smoke. Every time I have had to put up with it was when I made the decision to go into there. You want to know what is the biggest trigger for my asthma is in public places? Perfumes. So should we ban perfume so I don't have to have it imposed on me? After if it triggers an attack it could possible kill me almost INSTANTLY, not in 40 years (or never). RW>RT> It bothers me to. But when folks won't voluntarily police >RT> themselves, what other alternatives are available? RW>And where do you want this involuntarily policing of >the public to stop? Tobacco today, red meat tomorrow, >all meat the next day . . . RT> It shouldn't stop until the problem stops. It has nothing RT> to do with whether or not you want to eat red meat. It has It has every thing to do with red meat and alcohol and everything else that "they" think is bad for you. "They" have already said that after tobacco they want to ban alcohol because of the health effects and the 'negative effects on society' it has. RT> my face. When you quit exhaling in my space, I'll quit RT> bitching. And what is your space? Anywhere you want it but MY space in only where you ALLOW me to have it right? Remember: Freedom isn't Free! --- timEd-B11 * Origin: My BBS * Dover, TN * (1:379/301.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00966 Date: 05/01/98 From: RICH WILLBANKS Time: 09:41pm \/To: RON TAYLOR (Read 0 times) Subj: Teenage Smoking RW>It has always been that simple. You don't like a >business you hit the street. RT> Actually Rich, I have to partially agree with you here. I RT> believe a man should be able to conduct his business as he RT> sees fit. Now do we apply the same logic to all aspects of RT> the restaurant business. Lets let the workers wash their RT> hands IF they want to. Lets allow the owner to spend less RT> money on sanitation, refrigeration, and food preservation RT> issues. Lets allow the workers to use their hands to handle RT> food. Lets don't worry about bacterial levels in food. And RT> lets don't place any standard on the types of food served, RT> the conditions they are prepared in, and the sources from RT> which they are derived. Lets let the customers decide RT> whether or not the place is worthy of their patronage. Ok fine. You never walk out of a restart because you didn't like the way it looked? The civil court system would take care of most if not all of the problems you site. After the first case of anything the suits would start. Look at how Jack-in- the-box changed its cooking process and how it changed the cooking process in every other restart. The government can set all the rules and make all the laws it wants but they do no good is people/business don't want to follow them. Every week a local news program does a segment called "Eat, drank and be weary" where they list the high and low scoring restaurant. And every week there are at least three restaurant that fail their inspection. And yet people continue to go into these restaurant and assume that it is safe because there are rules about food handling. Now are the rules helping or hurting? Now if the people knew that it was up to them to take care of themselves they might take the time to look around before they sit down to eat. RW>RT> There are VERY few smoke free restaurants. When there is >RT> one available, I will patronize it. RW>Doesn't this show you that most people aren't concerned >about smokers? After all if there was a huge chuck of >people out there who didn't want to be around smoke >there would be smoke free everything on every corner. RT> Look very closely Rich. Every day there are more and more RT> people who are waking up to the fact that they ARE Then why isn't there smoke free restaurant popping up every day? Heck if there is such a ground swell maybe I should cash in some of my mutual funds and start a smoke free restaurant. RT> uncomfortable breathing tobacco smoke. They ARE worried RT> about the adverse health problems associated with tobacco No they are doing the new American thing, they are letting the government and "they" think for them. If they are worried about it then don't use it. I don't. I also don't use alcohol, crack, meth. If I don't like a place because of the way it looks or smells I don't stay. I am also not a vegetarian nor eat organic foods. All of these are chooses I make and you nor anyone else has the right to tell me that they are wrong unless they are effecting you in a way YOU can't control. RT> smoke. AND they ARE letting their pocket books and their RT> feet speak... They (we) are having to fight an uphill battle RT> because of the long ingrained idea that we should be RT> "tolerant". Keep looking... you will find that sooner or RT> later, there WILL be smoke free everything on every corner. RT> Its a hard battle, but we are winning. And then what? Alcohol free. Meat free? Chemical fertilizer free? RT> Once we have strict laws governing tobacco usage in public RT> areas, the private sector will soon conform. We won't have RT> to regulate it because the then wary public will demand the RT> same from them. But this isn't the plan. The plan is to force every place that has someone other then smoker to forbid smoking. Public, private and in between (businesses) Remember: Freedom isn't Free! --- timEd-B11 * Origin: My BBS * Dover, TN * (1:379/301.1)