--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00907 Date: 05/01/98 From: CAROL SHENKENBERGER Time: 06:07pm \/To: BARBARA MCNAY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Use Your Handbrake! *** Quoting Barbara McNay from a message to Carol Shenkenberger *** > BM> off. No slippage. A similar tactic will work for backing out of a pa > Learned that trick too, but there is a level of slope > involved where the handbreak wont do much good. Most > of the USA has fairly flat land. Try Hawaii or the > Blue Ridge for an example of what I mean. BM> Mmm. Just my opinion, of course, Carol, but if the handbrake doesn't BM> do much good, I'd say it needs fixing. Grin, seeing as you live in flatlands, that would be the way you would see it. Try asking some of the folks who have lived in real mountains. (Hint, you will tear up your hand-brakes in 2 weeks doing it like suggested. There's a point where you have to let it go to get in gear and on a real slope, it shows). xxcarol --- Telegard v3.09.b17 * Origin: SHENK'S EXPRESS Norfolk VA 757-486-3057 28.8 Dual (1:275/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00908 Date: 04/30/98 From: BLAKE BOWERS Time: 11:06pm \/To: MARK RACIBORSKI (Read 0 times) Subj: Legality of Commandeering On (29 Apr 98) Mark Raciborski wrote to Blake Bowers... MR> You'd be amazed at the number of gas tanks that do explode, last week Nah, but you would be amazed at the number of car, truck, tanker fires I have worked.... It has given me a pretty good knowledge of just what will explode, and the conditions that it takes. You are incorrect, once again. --- PPoint 1.98 * Origin: KD4RME, The POINT of it all.... (1:284/99.10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00909 Date: 04/30/98 From: BLAKE BOWERS Time: 11:08pm \/To: CHRISTOPHER COYNE (Read 0 times) Subj: Peace In The Echo On (29 Apr 98) Christopher Coyne wrote to Tom Rightmer... TR> CH> I had a snake try to bite me once, (not calling Chris a Snake); and TR> CH> forgave the snake.................. but I don't travel in his TR> CH> neighborhood because I'm sure he'll still try to strike again. I CC> Tom, please do something about Charles and his unwarremted CC> attack. For one, he really provoked ME to enter the flame war, not CC> the other way around. I have not flamed him since. Please do CC> something about him. This proves what I was talking about. He specifically stated that he was not calling you a snake, he was merely trying to stay out of a situation that he felt would lead to a problem. Charles should be commended for that! You, on the other hand, seem to really want other people to handle your confrontations for you. --- PPoint 1.98 * Origin: KD4RME, The POINT of it all.... (1:284/99.10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00910 Date: 05/01/98 From: ALAN RACKMILL Time: 11:24am \/To: BARBARA MCNAY (Read 0 times) Subj: Legality of Commandeering * Reply to a message in Personal. Barbara McNay wrote in a message to Alan Rackmill: > The reason is that a propane tank will explode with > much more force that a car filled with gasoline. > And when (if) the tank does explode, the damage will > be much more than a car. > In fact, a propane cylinder is more in line with a > bomb than a car is. > Also, in New Jersey, at least, it is illegal to carry > a full propane cylinder in the trunk of your car. BM> I'm beginning to think that possessing a propane cylinder is BM> pretty hazardous, and glad I don't have any! As long as they are not kept in an enclosed area, there isn't much danger. Alan Team OS/2, Fidonet 1:107/101, ibmNET 40:4371/101, OS2NET 80:135/15 internet: alanrackmill@mindspring.com --- timEd/2 1.01 * Origin: The Maven's Roost * MAX/2 * WARP * v.34 1-908-821-4533 1:107/101) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00911 Date: 05/01/98 From: J. RANDY MITCHELL Time: 11:11pm \/To: AMY KING (Read 0 times) Subj: Traffic accident... AK> I know if you are going too fast, you can hit a car and send AK> it quite a ways forward. The police might take excessive AK> speed and the size of the car that started the chain reaction AK> into account, but in Oklahoma, even if you are stopped behind AK> a car at an intersection, if you hit the first car at the AK> intersection because you were hit from behind by a moving AK> vehicle, you are still held accountable for the damages to AK> the first car. If you don't agee that you are at fault, you AK> would have to go to court and prove otherwise. One reason our AK> state does this is so that one insurance company doesn't end AK> up being hit hard with a bunch of claims all at once. If our AK> state didn't do it this way, the insurance company might hike AK> up all the rates for all its policy holders in order to AK> recover its losses. Then everybody would suffer, not just AK> the person who started the chain reaction. Where, exactly are you obtaining this 'information'? In the first place, everyone would suffer regardless of who's insurance company got stuck with paying the claims. In the second place your logic as to thinking each driver would be found at fault is because of insurance companies is utterly ridiculous! Insurance companies do not determine the traffic laws! --- * Origin: Jazzmaster PointRCommerce, Texas (1:124/6308.7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00912 Date: 05/01/98 From: J. RANDY MITCHELL Time: 10:50pm \/To: RON TAYLOR (Read 0 times) Subj: Smoking laws 2/2 RT> The real irony I see in smokers is that if, for instance, I RT> walked up to their dining table while they were involved in a RT> meal and blew a good healthy boiled egg fart, they'd all go RT> ballistic, but they never consider their cigarette smoke as RT> offensive to me. Go figure. --- My Dad (67) actually did that to an obnoxious smoker at Luby's a couple of years ago. My Mother refused to go to any resturants with him for several months. I, however, applauded. --- * Origin: Jazzmaster PointRCommerce, Texas (1:124/6308.7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00913 Date: 05/01/98 From: J. RANDY MITCHELL Time: 11:07pm \/To: RON TAYLOR (Read 0 times) Subj: Teenage Smoking RT> As for the seriousness of the crime?? The knowledge of the RT> adverse effects of tobacco is getting more and more common. RT> Also, the liability of allowing one person to intentionally RT> expose another to that danger is getting more and more press. RT> I see the attitude that cigarette smoking in public is only a RT> nuisance going away. You may well see a change in the RT> priority of enforcement of the law. If it's any consolation at all there is a another light at the end of the tunnel. Breakthroughs in smoking cessation methods and medications are being developed regularly and approved by the FDA. I'm a former smoker (28 years) and sincerely believed that I would never be smoke-free. It has now been a couple of years and I have been called a "militant ex-smoker". I preach, carry on, raise hell, and anything else I can do in the hopes that a few smokers might actually think about what I'm saying and make changes in their habits. I know that if I can quit...anybody can. BTW...I used the NicoDerm patch to assist me in quitting. (Sorry for the off-topic message, Tom...it just seemed relevant :-) --- * Origin: Jazzmaster PointRCommerce, Texas (1:124/6308.7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00914 Date: 05/01/98 From: BARBARA MCNAY Time: 07:05am \/To: TOM RIGHTMER (Read 0 times) Subj: Commandeering > RW> What if the LEO trying to take the car refused to produce proper > RW> id? There have been several cases where people have dressed as LEOs > There would be no violation of the law for failure to > comply, number one. > Number two, a recognizable uniform and badge of a > jurisdiction would be very > difficult to obtain. The commission card is usually > the first ID in the LEO's > wallet and is very quick and easy to produce. Usually, > each jurisdiction has > distinctive uniforms, patches, and badges, so they are > really not hard to > recognize without further identification. The cases > you are talking about > have usually involved security guard type uniforms > without the distinctive > patches, badges, etc. You may be missing a point, here. "Usually, each jurisdiction has...." IOW, what a LAC sees is a "police" uniform. I wouldn't be able to tell you whether any given uniform was the uniform of our police, or what, unless the person was oriented so I could see the patches. I also couldn't tell you offhand just what the uniforms properly consist of. The bicycle cops wear helmets and shorts, and perhaps other things different from what the car cops wear. I simply don't see the police that much, and when I do see them, I have other things to pay attention to than their clothes. Some people are indeed very clothes conscious, but I'm not one of them. <---<< Barb >>---> --- * Origin: The Barb >>---> Killeen, Texas, USA (1:395/48) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00915 Date: 05/01/98 From: TOM RIGHTMER Time: 12:45pm \/To: MARK RACIBORSKI (Read 0 times) Subj: Gang Weapons MR> I dont know how it is MR> from where you are, but weapons just trade hands in downtown MR> Newport News, the same weapon can be linked to multipul crimes MR> with multipul people, this one guy has a Uzi and 300 rounds of MR> ammuinion for it and hes selling it for 300 bucks. I know frmo people MR> telling me about it that its changed hands several times. It's about the same everywhere. Weapons are traded for dope, sold for cash, used to satisfy debts, moved to a different area of town when things get hot, etc. The police target the criminals who have weapons like this, and they know it. There is a primary concern of innocent people getting killed when they spray bullets in drive-bys, etc. Tom Rightmer - A Victims' Rights Advocate ... Save trees, eat beavers. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: 357 MAGNUM *Lawton, OK* 405-536-5032 (1:385/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F5G00916 Date: 05/01/98 From: TOM RIGHTMER Time: 12:45pm \/To: MARK RACIBORSKI (Read 0 times) Subj: America's Dumbest Criminals MR> I thought so too, i was MR> listing to the radio the other morning and there is a segment MR> called 'stupid news or criminals or something' and anyway this guy MR> in D.c. tried to rob 3 men dressed in business suits, well the men MR> pulled out M-11s and started shooting at the would be robber, MR> turned out the 3 men were Secret Service Agents, well the robber MR> ran off and jumped in the trunk of a car, well the car turned out MR> to be a police car, and the officers didnt find him until 3 days MR> later when they heard whipering and banging coming from the trunk of MR> their patrol car. It just wasn't this guy's day. This one definitely belongs on TV. If I was a criminal and had that kind of luck, I would change my profession, maybe go into the ministry or something like that. Tom Tom Rightmer - A Victims' Rights Advocate ... No, Taco Bell is not the Mexican telephone company. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: 357 MAGNUM *Lawton, OK* 405-536-5032 (1:385/20)