--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4A00002 Date: 04/05/98 From: MIKE MCCANN Time: 01:48pm \/To: RYAN BAGUEROS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Travellersin SC Ok,You are known by the company you keep, maybe that is why you have so many problems. The Travellers are NOT honorable people, just criminal Micks --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: UltraTech - Nashville, TN (615)356-0453 {V.34/V.FC} (1:116/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4A00003 Date: 04/05/98 From: KENT ANDERSON Time: 02:38pm \/To: RYAN BAGUEROS (Read 1 times) Subj: STREET PEOPLE -=> Quoting Ryan Bagueros to Carol Shenkenberger<=- RB> Follow the links on this page for some more information: RB> http://www.iwaynet.net/~tpitb/smshstat.htm RB> And let me know what you think, I'd be interested. I visited, and I think I now have a better picture of how badly pot can burn out a brain. I would strongly recommend to others who might visit that they first take an anti-nausea pill. This stuff will turn your stomach! The one redeeming factor is that this type of trash has been appearing for years, and for most, it is so laughable that they probably think it's posted in jest. I don't think we're in any danger of it's ever selling to enough "people?" to endanger us in any way. You must stay _really_ hopped up to buy into this crap. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Rendezvous!! 8gigs_20000files_500echoareas 512-303-1324 (1:382/92) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4A00004 Date: 04/05/98 From: DON BOX Time: 12:41pm \/To: RYAN BAGUEROS (Read 1 times) Subj: TRAVELLERSIN SC RB> Yeah, well you watch 20/20 for your news, and I'll just talk to my RB> friends who _are_ travellers, ok? Ryan... you just screwed yersef! DB --- * RM 1.31 3089 * Ooooh, I'm NEVER gonna live this one down. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Computer One BBS (818) 763-0678 - bbsinfo@comp1.com (1:102/836.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4A00005 Date: 04/04/98 From: BARBARA MCNAY Time: 08:00am \/To: GLENN VERMETTE (Read 1 times) Subj: NARCO UNDERCOVER > the need to turn it on/off. If you were a juror would > you like to sit through listening to 8 hours of > traffic going by or the wind blowing, or dishes being > cleaned? Of course not...THINK a bit!!! If you were > an electrician, and I came to a job site and told you > that I personally thought you should install another > breaker unit just because the one you were using > looked too small in my eyes and I felt that it might > cause a fire, you'd tell me to jump in a lake, that > it's fine and I didn't know what I was talking about. > Conversley, the armchair cops and lawyers should do > the same thing as they don't know what they are > talking about, nor is it any of their concern in the > first place. One of the beauties of an echo like this is that it gives the participants and lurkers opportunities to discover other points of view and other factors they had not thought of. There wouldn't be any echoes if we all knew everything. <---<< Barb >>---> --- * Origin: The Barb >>---> Killeen, Texas, USA (1:395/48) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4A00006 Date: 04/04/98 From: BARBARA MCNAY Time: 08:59am \/To: GLENN VERMETTE (Read 1 times) Subj: Legality of Commandeering cars > *** Quoting Barbara McNay to Glenn Vermette *** > BM> > JC> Like in U.S. Marshalls, Tommy Lee Jones runs onto a New > BM> York > BM> > JC> Street, > BM> > JC> shows his badge, kicks the owner of the car out of it and > BM> takes > BM> > JC> off. > BM> > JC> > BM> > JC> Is this legal? If so, it would seem a bit odd to be so. > BM> Also, have > BM> > JC> there been lawsuits about this? > BM> > BM> > Sigh........... > BM> > BM> While you folks sigh, please keep in mind that there is a > BM> constant turnover of participants and lurkers who were not here > BM> when you went through this before. > BM> > I wasn't sighing because it's been hashed out before, > I was sighing again for yet another person who is > incapable of THINKING before pounding out his jumbled > thoughts. > Let's explore this for a moment. You're driving down > the street, see a bunch of cops chasing some guy who > jumps in a car and takes off. Some cop comes up to > you, opens your door, tells you to get out, that he > needs your car. So you're going to do what? Have a > discussion about the legality of him doing this, or > want to debate it? Do you THINK for a moment that if > you're car gets smashed to bits that you WON'T be > compensated for it? See what I mean? If the people > who watch too much TV and Tommy Lee Jone's movies > would excersice their brains and THINK about stuff > like this, they realize they already have the answers > and just provoke a good "sigh...." from others who > have already figured it out...hence the SIGHHHH....... Well, you never addressed the legality of it. However, let's explore this some more. Some cop comes up to me; he can't open my doors, because I keep them locked. He tells me to open up and get out, that he needs my car. Is he going to stand by patiently while I remove my key, struggle out of the car and go round to the trunk to remove and assemble my walker so I won't be left without the support I need to get anywhere, like up the curb and out of the road? <---<< Barb >>---> --- * Origin: The Barb >>---> Killeen, Texas, USA (1:395/48) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4A00007 Date: 04/04/98 From: BARBARA MCNAY Time: 06:11pm \/To: BOB RUDOLPH (Read 1 times) Subj: STREET PEOPLE 01/02 > BM> > I remain firm in the believe that animals are > BM> > animals, and lack the needed > BM> > sentience to exhibit cruelty, which includes malice. > BM> OK, try this for size: I saw a litter of pigs once--all uperficially > BM> identical except for two: a normal-sized piglet with a prominent > BM> abdominal hernia, and a runt. A couple of the other piglets butted r > BM> otherwise harassed the runt, and I saw one piglet repeatedly butting > the > BM> hernia of the afflicted one. Obviously, all or even most of the thers > BM> did not exhibit this behavior toward the different ones, or neither > would > BM> have lived to the age it already had. Therefore, the nonagressive > piglets > BM> were what--less piglike, stupider, smarter, more tolerant, kinder, less > > BM> observant, got to the feed trough first and so were less ngry--what? > Less likely to survive, and less likely to be lead > pigs. Well, you might have a point there--if they were wild pigs. <---<< Barb >>---> --- * Origin: The Barb >>---> Killeen, Texas, USA (1:395/48) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4A00008 Date: 04/04/98 From: BARBARA MCNAY Time: 06:51pm \/To: RYAN BAGUEROS (Read 1 times) Subj: My Job Prospects > I'll tell you this, if and when I do make enough money > to not be struggling, I > certainly won't rub it in everyone else's face, > telling them how much smarter > and what a harder worker I am. I will be able to see > it for what it is. Won't make a particle of difference. Somebody will be sure to resent your having enough money. <---<< Barb >>---> --- * Origin: The Barb >>---> Killeen, Texas, USA (1:395/48) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4A00009 Date: 04/03/98 From: CHARLES HUNTER Time: 01:08pm \/To: ALAN RACKMILL (Read 1 times) Subj: zero tolerance CH> While that is probably good advice; it is not always the CH> best strategy under certain circumstances. AR>Out of curiosity, what circumstances would that be? One example: You are stopped by an officer who discovers that you are carrying a concealed firearm. Do you keep your mouth shut and go to jail; or do you show your permit assuming you are carrying within the terms of your concealed weapons permit? CHARLES HUNTER * 1st 2.00 #9124 * "I drank WHAT?!" -Socrates --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Telnet://airpower.dyn.ml.org 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4A00010 Date: 04/04/98 From: BLAKE BOWERS Time: 09:11pm \/To: RYAN BAGUEROS (Read 1 times) Subj: My Job Prospects On (02 Apr 98) Ryan Bagueros wrote to All... RB> I think you all have this ill-gotten notion that my opinions on things RB> come solely from my experiences in trying to find a job. They don't. RB> As I've said, yes, I hate my job, but who doesn't, and I don't really RB> expect to be making $10 I certainly don't hate my job. In fact, I have a great time with my job. --- PPoint 1.98 * Origin: KD4RME, The POINT of it all.... (1:284/99.10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4A00011 Date: 04/05/98 From: KENT ANDERSON Time: 06:55am \/To: RON TAYLOR (Read 1 times) Subj: police brutality -=> Quoting Ron Taylor to Ryan Bagueros <=- RT> It can and does happen, but not more often. In the vast majority of RT> cases, a policeman will act like Trooper Ron Scott in Escambia County RT> Florida did that rainy Sunday night when I had a tire blow out on my RT> trailer. With the help of his spotlight, we got the tire off the RT> trailer, then using his personal cell phone, he called until he RT> located a tire that would fit and a service man willing to repair it. RT> While I was gone nearly two hours to get the tire repaired, Trooper RT> Scott kept a watchful eye on my trailer containing about $40,000 worth RT> of jewelry and supplies on the side of Interstate 10. He didn't pistol RT> whip me once. Ron, And, I expect that, except for scumbags who have broken a law, and who automatically smart off to a LEO, that this would be the more normal type of contact with the police. > Its always enlightening to me that police and cop supporters are >_never_ concerned about stopping illegal police brutality - they >are just interested in downplaying >it. RT> Never say _never_! You just met one. He's met at least two. :) If I became aware of any brutal acton by a policeman, it would be as abhorrent to me as it would be to Ryan. On the other hand, I'd be damned sure of the facts before I screamed brutality. Rmember, that cops first job is to get home to his family after his shift, and top be ready and able for duty when next shift time comes. RB> I have yet to hear a cop on this echo say, "Yes, brutality _is_ a RB> problem, >but >I'm doing all I can to stop it." RT> You haven't been listening. I've heard it several times, even in RT> this particular conversation. Ryan hears what he want to hear, and makes up the rest. Kent, ... A cop's life must get discouragin' sometimes! --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: Rendezvous!! 8gigs_20000files_500echoareas 512-303-1324 (1:382/92)