--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F1100012 Date: 12/30/97 From: PETE GRANZEAU Time: 07:05pm \/To: JAMES WOMACK (Read 5 times) Subj: OLX On 29 Dec 97 02:01:00, a Gin and Tonic at the Angler's Rest overheard James Womack say to Roland Stiner: >Crockers. I understand that the current ProComm Plus for Windows do >a version of a QWK reader in the package. I don't know how close to >this package is, and I don't know if the ability to handle a BW pack >there or not. JW>The ability is there. I just checked and it has a place in setup where JW>select the type of files you want the program's qwk reader to handle. M JW>set at qwk, but there are selections for: JW>Blue Wave, Mail, and All. JW>Now I think Pete uses Blue wave and I talk to Pete, so obviously the PC JW>qwk reader can work with BW and your OLX. Blue Wave can be set up to send QWK packets to people who don't have a BW reader. I stopped using OLX when I switched to Windows programs (and I much preferred the Windows editor in WinQWK to a DOS editor, which is why I switched), and for several years, now, I have used Wave Rider to read either--although all the local Fidonet BBs I now download packets from have Blue Wave. Regards, PHG phg@exis.net ... O Lord, protect me from those to whom You speak directly. * Wave Rider 1.33 # 92 * --- * Origin: Little America BBS, Williamsburg VA (1:271/140) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F1100013 Date: 12/28/97 From: JOHN MIKESKA Time: 02:39pm \/To: CAMERON CLARK (Read 5 times) Subj: MS ERU ? CC> It's always good advise to backup your system before installing CC> major software. At least backing up the Registry before a program CC> installation - using MS's ERU will backup all the most important CC> system files. ERU can be easily used before every software CC> update. Cameron, for some of us not so illiterate to recognize the abbreviations of MicroSoft's programs, what is the "ERU" program? ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Digital OnLine Magazine! - (409)838-8237 (1:3811/350) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F1100014 Date: 12/31/97 From: JOHN THOMPSON Time: 08:44am \/To: PETER MCNEILL (Read 5 times) Subj: A COUPLE MORE WIN95 QUEST In a message to JOHN THOMPSON, PETER MCNEILL wrote re: A COUPLE MORE WIN95 QUEST JT> Finally, how do I get Win95 to use a faster refresh rate on my JT> monitor? I've looked under display settings but find no option to JT> change this. I've tried changing drivers (this is an old Cirrus JT> 5426-based VLB video card) but none of the ones on the Win95 CD seem JT> to help. Both OS/2 and Windows 3.1 can use the faster refresh, so I JT> know my monitor isn't the problem. The flicker is driving me nuts! PM> Use the clmode.exe that came on the disk with the card and PM> run it from DOS. It will put the refresh rates in your PM> autoexec.bat which then W95 will pick up when it loads. Those PM> older CL cards needed either that loaded or if the card PM> has a W95 ver of clmode to be run. [slapping forehead] Who'd have thought it would be just like in Windows 3.1? Duh! It worked! Thanks again... * KWQ/2 1.2i * Internet: John.Thompson@ibm.net --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.4P1a * Origin: TeLnEt tO: applegate.com, a BBS oN tHE iNterNET (1:139/631) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F1100015 Date: 12/31/97 From: JOHN THOMPSON Time: 08:44am \/To: PETER MCNEILL (Read 5 times) Subj: A couple more win95 quest In a message to JOHN THOMPSON, PETER MCNEILL wrote re: A COUPLE MORE WIN95 QUEST JT> Finally, how do I get Win95 to use a faster refresh rate on my JT> monitor? I've looked under display settings but find no option to JT> change this. I've tried changing drivers (this is an old Cirrus JT> 5426-based VLB video card) but none of the ones on the Win95 CD seem JT> to help. Both OS/2 and Windows 3.1 can use the faster refresh, so I JT> know my monitor isn't the problem. The flicker is driving me nuts! PM> Use the clmode.exe that came on the disk with the card and PM> run it from DOS. It will put the refresh rates in your PM> autoexec.bat which then W95 will pick up when it loads. Those PM> older CL cards needed either that loaded or if the card PM> has a W95 ver of clmode to be run. [slapping forehead] Who'd have thought it would be just like in Windows 3.1? Duh! It worked! Thanks again... * KWQ/2 1.2i * Internet: John.Thompson@ibm.net --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.4P1a * Origin: TeLnEt tO: applegate.com, a BBS oN tHE iNterNET (1:139/631) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F1100016 Date: 12/25/97 From: KEN WIENS Time: 12:18pm \/To: JERRY SCHWARTZ (Read 5 times) Subj: Norton Utilities 3.0 JS>I would advise everyone to wait before installing this JS>upgrade. There seem to be a lot of problems with it, most JS>of them merely irritating but a few of them mean that the JS>protection you paid for isn't really there yet. JS>Conflicts with Partition Magic, possible inability to make JS>5-1/4 rescue disks (or even to make rescue disks at all if JS>your A drive is 5-1/4), and constant restarting of the NDD JS>and SpeedDisk are among the things people are complaining JS>about. JS>When I decide it is safe enough for me to trust it, I'll let you know. Thanks for the timely warning, Jerry. I generally have the bad habit of going out and buying the latest upgrades to products, sometimes with less than desirable results. It was smart that you were monitoring the NU Forum on the Symantec Web Site. That is a good way to see how a new product or upgrade is working for those who purchase. I'll wait until bugs are worked out. Ken Wiens JS>--- Msged/386 4.00 JS> * Origin: Write by Night (1:142/928) ___ * WR 1.33 # 618 * The trouble with reality is there's no background music. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: CorUnum * Fountain Valley, CA * 714/531-7255 (1:103/550) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F1100017 Date: 12/31/97 From: CLARENCE HOGAN Time: 02:06pm \/To: JERRY SCHWARTZ (Read 5 times) Subj: puters -=> Quoting Jerry Schwartz to Clarence Hogan <=- JS> [Dec 25, 97 - 06:28] Clarence Hogan of 1:116/17 wrote to Jeff JS> Edmonson: JE>> Save the files as text file (*.txt) and you can open those by any word JE>> processor (including WordPad, in '95) CH> You will have to excuse this old computer dummy, but I have heard of CH> "text files", but have never had the term explained! Also WordPad is CH> a new one for me also, so please have at it, ok? :) JS> A text file is simply a file consisted of the normal, printable, JS> typable characters without extraneous material. Most word processing JS> programs interleave special formatting instructions with the text, JS> making it difficult or impossible to read in another program. OK, I think that I follow you on that part! :) JS> WordPad is the baby-steps word processing program that comes with JS> Windows 95 (replacing Windows Write). Ah! Finally got my new computer with Win95 and am tickled pink so far and I found the WordPad and it is great, but I don't like the bright white too much and am going to see if I can change the background and letter colors! And boy is it fasssssst! :) Just another humble servant of The Kingdom.......clarence....... ... Now that it is fixed, what is it and what do I do with it? --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 * Origin: Skeeter Haven "Nashville, TN" (615) 872-8609 (1:116/17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F1100018 Date: 12/31/97 From: CLARENCE HOGAN Time: 02:11pm \/To: BILL DAWSON (Read 5 times) Subj: WordPerfect in any Windows -=> Quoting Bill Dawson to Clarence Hogan <=- -=> Quoting Clarence Hogan to Bill Dawson <=- CH> I am getting Windows 95 and losing DOS and WordPerfect BD> The only versions of WordPerfect I've run into with persistent BD> problems in either Win 3 or Win95 were 6.0's of both the DOS and BD> Windows variety. The old 5.1 DOS version runs fine in Windows of BD> any variety, and the 6.1 versions are equally happy either way. CH> Well I have got the old 5.1 version of WordPerfect, which was fine CH> until I learned to use DOS properly and I have just phased out WP! CH> But I do hope that he is wrong about DOS and is able to leave it in CH> my new computer! BD> When running Windows95, a majority of the older DOS-type stuff is BD> available, although not automatically installed. There are only a BD> very few bits of DOS that aren't there when you choose to add this BD> stuff to your setup, if you really need them. Well he did save my DOS ued for me and I at least can use it till I figure out all this new Win95 thingys! :) BD> WordPerfect 5.1 is quick-loading, quite agile, which few Graphical- BD> type wp programs can claim (if any). Most of the time, I do use a BD> newer version of WordPerfect, or occasionally MS WinWord, but if I BD> am I a hurry I'll often load WP for DOS. BD> There is a "6.2" WordPerfect for DOS that I tried that seems to BD> have blown a fuse, but I suspect it's something I did that caused BD> that situation. I guess I will just pass it for now as it will take some time to learn all this new Win95 stuff I have seen so far! :'( :) CH> Well, I guess I'll be happier without WordPerfect then, I hope! :) BD> Quite often, I go to Edit/Preferences and choose the DOS keyboard BD> for WPwin as well as sometimes running the DOS program. BD> ... He who dies with the most TAGLINES wins! CH> HEY, if that is the case, you can have mine and I'll just live to CH> start over! :) BD> I do have quite a few. But a friend of mine has three times the BD> amount I've collected! Awwwww, I've only got about 500 or so! :) Well, I am trying to get caught up on my backlog of messages, so will go on from here! Just another humble servant of The Kingdom.......clarence....... ... Now that it is fixed, what is it and what do I do with it? --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 * Origin: Skeeter Haven "Nashville, TN" (615) 872-8609 (1:116/17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F1100019 Date: 12/31/97 From: CLARENCE HOGAN Time: 02:18pm \/To: CHARLES MIELKE (Read 5 times) Subj: puters -=> Quoting Charles Mielke to Clarence Hogan <=- CH> JE> Save the files as text file (*.txt) and you can open those by any word CH> JE> processor (including WordPad, in '95) CH> You will have to excuse this old computer dummy, but I have heard of CH> "text files", but have never had the term explained! Also WordPad is CH> a new one for me also, so please have at it, ok? :) CM> A text file is any file on your computer that you CM> can read. The files usually end in .TXT, but that's CM> simply a convention, or practice, that folks do. CM> Text files sometimes end in .DOC, but there's no CM> particular reason, other than convenience and CM> convention, that they couldn't end with any old CM> suffix that you want them to end with, or even no CM> suffix at all. Now this I understand, I think! :) CM> Text files can be read in a number of ways - either CM> by raw computer output, or with a program such as LIST, CM> or with the WIN3.1 program called Notepad. Well, I've got NotePad now with my new computer and Win95! :) CM> If the file looks like SANSKRIT, it's probably a program CM> file of some sort, most likely a binary file. As a matter CM> of fact, some of the messages I've seen look like binary CM> files. Yup, I think I know what you are saying here also and thanks much for your info! Gotta go now and get caught up on old messages that were waiting for this new computer! :) Just another humble servant of The Kingdom.......clarence....... ... Now that it is fixed, what is it and what do I do with it? --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 * Origin: Skeeter Haven "Nashville, TN" (615) 872-8609 (1:116/17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F1100020 Date: 12/31/97 From: CLARENCE HOGAN Time: 02:22pm \/To: BILL DAWSON (Read 5 times) Subj: Two different Windows -=> Quoting Bill Dawson to Clarence Hogan <=- -=> Quoting Clarence Hogan to James Womack <=- JW> Why are you losing DOS and Wordperfect? Dos is Windows' pillar, BD> There is Windows3-whatever, which does, as James avers, require that BD> MS-DOS remains loaded while it runs on top of it. Windows95 differs. JW> without it Windows 3.1 won't work. See, Windows 3.1 is a shell for DOS JW> not an operating system per se. Wordperfect will operate within JW> Windows even if it is a DOS version. You are not losing either DOS or JW> Wordperfect. BD> There are some very experienced computer people who would dispute BD> the question of the definition of Windows3, but there is also an BD> entire echo set aside for such bickering. CH> To be perfectly honest, I just do not know or understand meself! CH> :'( However, this is what my computer man has told me not only once CH> but three times now! He said that he could save my DOS ued though CH> just awhile ago! BD> There is no truly overpowering reason to hold onto an older version BD> of MS-DOS, as the fellow who will assemble a new PC for you said. BD> But Windows95 *comes* with a majority of what was in DOS 6.22 that BD> still works with the new OS. It requires an extra few steps to be BD> able to use those pieces (prior message, earlier today). BD> However, to avoid creating an excess of confusion, let me add that BD> it is in the nature of the PCs' brain chips that most of us use to BD> start up in a "real mode" that requires a software switch before BD> it begins running in the "enhanced mode" that is available in the BD> Intel 80x86 family beginning with the 80386. Real mode is what BD> DOS runs in, limited to a single megabyte of memory. Windows95 BD> continues to use part of DOS as a "loader," which it then totally BD> replaces when the GUI runs. BD> The older Windows3 way of doing things left DOS in place, but in BD> many, perhaps even most, of the functions, ignored DOS and worked BD> better than DOS did. Thanks Bill and here are my new computer's specs... CH> Well, I wound up with a Pentium 200 MMX CPU, 32SD RAM, 2.5GBHD, CH> 33,600 FAX MODEM, WIN95, Minitmid Tower, 512KB PB SRAM, EDO RAM, CH> UltraDMA/33, PC97 Compliant, ACPI Ready, (Built-in Graphics Engine), CH> 16XCDROM, 2MEGS (could not read) of something, 5 - 100MB ZIP DISKS, CH> and that is about all I know about it right now and it cost me CH> $1,318.62 which included $20 trip charges and $70 for transferring CH> files and configure Windows 95, which all included the ZIP Drive in CH> the Tower and all that is left to buy is the ZIP hardware and I also CH> get a $10 rebate from the Zip Disks, so whatdaya' think? I may have sent you this already, but I have gotten so far behind that I don't recall who all I have sent it to, sorry! Just another humble servant of The Kingdom.......clarence....... ... Old age comes at a bad time in life! :'( --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 * Origin: Skeeter Haven "Nashville, TN" (615) 872-8609 (1:116/17) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 118 WINDOWS Ref: F1100021 Date: 12/31/97 From: CLARENCE HOGAN Time: 02:37pm \/To: DANNY HOPPER (Read 5 times) Subj: Windows 3.11 License -=> Quoting Danny Hopper to Clarence Hogan <=- CH> After doing all that you have said above, I found a funny little CH> monitor JUNO, which I have never seen before and I did the other CH> things and finally the change icon thing and the JUNO Icon came CH> up beside the little monitor JUNO, but upon leaving and re-entering CH> they were both gone when I got back into it along with the JUNO CH> Program screen! CH> There has just got to be something that I accidentally deleted when CH> I was deleting all the AMOL files and I guess I will just have CH> to wait for my son to come in from the Navy this month and get CH> it straightened out for me, as I believe he will in no time, for CH> he learned well in the Navy Computer School! :) DH> Try the following DOS command while in the Windows directory and at DH> the DOS command line. Thank mucho my friend, but I have finally gotten a new computer now and am typing this message on it and it is great, it is a Pentium 200 MMX w/Win 95 and boy is it fassssssst! :) Sorry about being so long to answer! Just another humble servant of The Kingdom.......clarence....... ... Now that it is fixed, what is it and what do I do with it? --- Blue Wave/Max v2.30 * Origin: Skeeter Haven "Nashville, TN" (615) 872-8609 (1:116/17)