--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4200108 Date: 03/27/98 From: DAVE SMITH Time: 12:41pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: Amazing coincidence I saw the most amazing coincidence on television last night. Living close to Buffalo, we get the Buffalo news, and there was a report about the conviction of a man who involved in a hit and run boat accident that killed two people. I flipped the station and came across a Cops episode about that very same incident. They showed the boats that were involved and had footage of the divers bringing the bodies up. What a coincidence that he two programs covered the same incident at the same time, 8 months after it happened. ... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (S)lap nearest innocent bystander. ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Hunting Field - Welland, Ont. (905)735-9081 (1:247/600.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4200109 Date: 03/27/98 From: ABEL GARC Time: 03:18am \/To: RD THOMPSON (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Teenage Smoking RT> If you saw someone kill, would you then kill? Nope cause i have no need to run with the crowd i'm me....mtv brainwashes RT> Not a RT> AG>responsability anymore is it. Nope more of just ripping off a stupied ti RT> and RT> AG>year and Sterotype.......thanx.. --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Liberators' Corner - 209-835-4852 (1:208/402) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4200110 Date: 03/27/98 From: ABEL GARC Time: 03:29am \/To: STEVE KEMP (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Teenage Smoking SK> AG>What responsabilitys does this younger generation have.....All they SK> AG>saw was those damn hippies. Thats what started it, Its a if they can SK> AG>i can. Not a responsability anymore is it. Nope more of just ripping SK> AG>off a stupied time and year and Sterotype.......thanx.. SK> SK> (damn, get a spell checkers) First of all if you can't except my grammer well then your out of luck...i'm the machine.....of thought and reality...I don't need a machine doing my work... SK> Weird. But many kids nowadays have gone against their hippie parents and SK> become straight edgers (no drugs, alcohol, or even cigarettes). They cut SK> their hair very short or shave their heads. If you think that that is SK> emulating the hippie lifestyle or mindset you got less than accurate SK> information. I know about straight edgers one of my best friends from san moreano.....He always trys to get me to stop smoking and stuff....but he isn't going to orce me....oh yeah they wear X's on there backhand......Just stop and think about this one....people like to run with the trend of know and days and the past...they tend to lead toward Sex, Drugs, and Rock "N" Roll.....Brainwashers....of our generation...and others to come.. SK> I don't see any connection or correlation between hippies and kids of SK> today, except that the kids of today are pretty much adverse to most of SK> the hippie garbage. Kids tend to rebel against their parents, or their SK> parents generation. And the hippies were of that generation. See i think we were all messed up in the generational gap, We shouldn't rebel aginst our blood. If the hippies were part of that death to all living of them.....Because i don't know anyone proud to rebel aginst there parents i don't you probably don't...... SK> Many kids of today have also witnessed their parents sell out their SK> ideals as they got older, and they see that as bad. Thus, they tend to SK> hold more reasonable and worthy beliefs like justice and equality more SK> strongly. You see that is a great quality to hold on too.......but the draw backs are e are all blinded by politics...and other scandals... SK> What responsibility do they have? The same question could be asked of SK> you, or me, or of any generation or group. The thing is, that's a SK> relative and subjective question. You see i like you, It's cool Mr. can't handle a conversation without getting jock thoughts into his head (Jock thought=Kill, hurt, and Destroy) ou take a licking and just express your ideas without mocking or forming any threat of hostilaty. thanx lets converse more pnker Sm & -=p.s. AFFAIR=- --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Liberators' Corner - 209-835-4852 (1:208/402) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4200111 Date: 03/27/98 From: ABEL GARC Time: 03:32am \/To: MIKE MCCANN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Teenage Smokingliving and breathing MM> Frogs, worms, dogs and cats all fit the definition of living and breasthing MM> few know what to do to survive and prosper in the human part of society. MM> A comment on dictionary was not appropriate, we all make spelling errors. p MM> is that education comes from many places, some better than others. My kids MM> taught by schools to spell a word like it sounds and come up with some real MM> winners. of course in this com I apoligize about that hostle calculation...but hey i understand were your coming from thanx for the support lets stick on the orginal subject long ago made but hey........i guess this is cool...i love when humanity expresses there thought and ideas.......without having to go to the barbaric roots..(Jockdem=kill, Hurt, and Destroy).....thanx pnker Sm & -=p.s. AFFAIR=- --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Liberators' Corner - 209-835-4852 (1:208/402) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4200112 Date: 03/27/98 From: ABEL GARC Time: 03:38am \/To: LUCY MOLINO (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Teenage Smoking AG> First of all i would like to say You find a dictionary cuz i have no AG> need for such low statments...look up Gulibal...... LM> LM> He's part of the low lifeform from the gutter, sending 4-letter LM> profanity through netmail. No one will ever get through his LM> dense skull. Hello lucy....ok first of all thats me expressing his insuqritys of having proper grammer...but hey whats a cuse word nothing just a word. It's not oing to hurt maim or destroy your life......whats the bird nothing doesn't take much effort but if you were given the toe (bird) than thats when you saw that person put that effort just to give you the toe than thats ffending.....Dense skull no jockdem for me ok. If i get into a fight it is the talking that ould get me out if not then.....But takeing someone and beat on them well that's not me...words are the building ground to humanity. Use them wisely....gutter nope and no thanx...house for me.......thanx for this convo catch your later.. pnker Sm & -=p.s. AFFAIR=- --- GEcho 1.02+ * Origin: The Liberators' Corner - 209-835-4852 (1:208/402) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4200113 Date: 03/27/98 From: CAROL SHENKENBERGER Time: 02:01pm \/To: CHARLES HUNTER (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Spelling *** Quoting Charles Hunter from a message to Carol Shenkenberger *** >(ah! The sweet smell of success!). CH> Good for you! Grin, thanks. Now, is it Lasy or Lazy? (I know, he's muttering to himself going what a ditz! hehehe mutter all you like but my curiosity is up!) xxcarol --- Telegard v3.09.b16 * Origin: SHENK'S EXPRESS Norfolk VA 757-486-3057 28.8 Dual (1:275/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4200114 Date: 03/27/98 From: CAROL SHENKENBERGER Time: 02:26pm \/To: D.E. BRYANT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: STREET PEOPLE 01/02 *** Quoting D.e. Bryant from a message to Don Box *** DB> choices. My lot is certainly better than my father's and I am taking DB> steps to achieve what it is that I DESIRE FOR MY LIFE...NOT what other DB> decide I am entitled to. You are not black or likely even a minority DB> and therefore cannot presume to know what you speak [of a black man's DB> experience]. Yours appear to be the trials of a blue-collar white man. DB> Your white skin gives the immediate advantage over a latino or black DB> because you will be spared most of the intangibles of DB> employer/business-owner bias. The owner [if white] will likely see DB> racial kinship in you even if he does not consciously acknowledge it. DB> If the owner is black, you may still be hired if you have the skills DB> because a minority business owner must be practical. Virtually all bi DB> business in the US is white-dominated so minorities must seek any mean DB> to a niche. Don, let's be frank--your white racial heritage ALONE ope DB> doors that are covertly barred to me. You will have to work far less DB> acquire employment than your black or latino equivalent. Because this DB> is likely so, you have the emotional approach to life, this attitude y DB> are callously displaying. A black or latino will have had many more DB> doors closed to them--and this creates befuddlement, anger & a bit of DB> despair. One must work so much harder to get the basics, to make need DB> inroads to personal success. This has been the situation for me. I DB> approach interviews strongly and make certain that I do very well in t DB> job-testing. I want to make the best impression--and often I am told DB> how striking I am, how strong and solid my skills are, what good work DB> references I have. And then weeks go by with no work--from multiple DB> agencies. It does not add up, Don. Some of us 'WASP's hide our head in the sand on this issue but I dont. Yes, it is still going on. Its not *as* bad, but it's still there. Let me add my 2 cents worth on this. When I was in school, we still had 'tracking'. Some kids were 'college bound track' and others were 'vocational skills' tracked. There was an obvious difference. My 'college bound track' classes were almost exclusively white, and the vo-tech track was a high ratio of black people. This makes no sense. It continued thru my HS years, because once folks figured out this was wrong, it was too late to change the lesser training given. I graduated in 1978 from HS. Now I hear, the folks arent tracking at all, and that is equally hurting the folks in school, because the teachers cant get a relatively level class so have to teach to the lowest common denominator, and that is hurting the students who *could* do the college track. Its only advantage is it isnt color based anymore. Smile, my daughter (4YO) is in a montesouri (sp?) school. Its working well. She and her classmates, in a clean easy environment, are soaking up stuff that will make them perhaps a bit ahead once they start gradeschool. The smartest one is Justin, who as you probably guessed is black. Charlotte is sometimes a little upset because she is behind him on all things, but older than he is. She's better at sports though so is happy enough for now . This is the way it should be. I dont think Charlotte has encountered the word 'prejudiced' yet and certainly wont understand it when she does. Thats the future. Lets give them all the time to learn reality, and forget the silly thoughts our ancestors and parents passed on to us. As my end coda, let me say I never considered myself predjudiced (just cant spell that!) but as I grew in my military career, I found remnants of it. I hope to hell I've wiped any lingering traces of it out of myself, because as God is my witness, I *know* it just doesnt make sense to be so. People are people and color has nothing to do with capability. xxcarol --- Telegard v3.09.b16 * Origin: SHENK'S EXPRESS Norfolk VA 757-486-3057 28.8 Dual (1:275/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4200115 Date: 03/27/98 From: CAROL SHENKENBERGER Time: 02:50pm \/To: RYAN BAGUEROS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: STREET PEOPLE *** Quoting Ryan Bagueros from a message to Carol Shenkenberger *** CS> Which may be true, but is no reason to not *try*. CS> I did not complete my degree, but I am proud of how far I got. I am CS> now senior enlisted, having worked my way up. I was 24 when I CS> joined. I worked hard, did RB> Yes, but isn't it ignorant to *try* in the face of ridiculous odds, an It's ignorant to consider the odds insurmountable. When I was 5, an accident placed me in a wheelchair. When I was 8, I walked free of it forever. I wasnt ignorant. When I was 9, I was temporarily blinded for 6 months. I did not know if it would end, nor did the Doctors, but I went to school and learned to listen well. When my sight came back fully, I was not behind. I was not ignorant because I used what I had, to the best I could. Had I stayed blind, I would have done rather well I think. Convincing yourself to *try* is 90% of the battle. Been there, know the story. Yes, sometimes you get knocked down, but you get back up again and sallay forth yet one more time until you DO get what you want. RB> still struggling to get by? Wouldn't it be better to *try* and find so RB> where everyone could partake in - at the very least - shelter, clothin RB> food? I don't mean communism or socialism or anything like that. I mea RB> not-capitalism. Whats wrong with capitalism? It means those who try and get back up again after being knocked down, have a chance to get someplace. Any other system, has the ones who work hard for what they want, paying for those who arent even trying. xxcarol --- Telegard v3.09.b16 * Origin: SHENK'S EXPRESS Norfolk VA 757-486-3057 28.8 Dual (1:275/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4200116 Date: 03/27/98 From: J. RANDY MITCHELL Time: 10:26pm \/To: RYAN BAGUEROS (Read 1 times) Subj: STREET PEOPLE . Quoting J. Randy Mitchell from a message to Bob Rudolph . JRM>> I totally agree, Bob. It would appear that there is a hint JRM>> of guilt in Ryan's above statement. Perhaps he feels guilty JRM>> for using Daddy's money to keep himself stocked in cannabis. RB> Just for the record, I've worked full-time since before I was RB> graduated from high school, doing everything from RB> construction to legal research to computer repair. Next time RB> you have something stupid to say, at least have the balls to RB> say it to me and not someone else. If I had something to say to you I would have posted a message to you. After the last "discussion" I was involved in with you I have been passing on anything with your name in the "from" field without reading it. I don't have to read your posts and you certainly don't have to read mine. All you do in this echo is get a buzz and then reply in your usual unintelligent, bitter, "Where's my white house with the picket fence and my 1.4 children and my piece of the American Dream that each and every one of you owe me" attitude. You're reaping what you sow. I tried to have an intellectual discussion with you but you can't disagree without reacting like a child and insulting people's intelligence. The above comment wasn't directed to you nor was it a flame. So, take another bong hit and bother someone else with your drivel. --- * Origin: Jazzmaster Point (1:124/6308.7) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F4200117 Date: 03/27/98 From: J. RANDY MITCHELL Time: 10:59pm \/To: CAROL SHENKENBERGER (Read 1 times) Subj: Spelling CS> *** Quoting J. Randy Mitchell from a message to Abel Garc *** JRM>> 1. You DO need a dictionary. CS> Randy, could I *request* we disband this particular line? CS> See, it pings a button of mine. I apologize to you for that. It was not my intention to "ping" anyone's buttons, Carol. CS> I have this odd disorder. I was not told I had it, and simply CS> encouraged to work harder at spelling and to enjoy reading CS> whatever *I* wanted to read. By very hard work, it is no CS> longer apparent I have dyslexia. CS> Talk over spelling, upsets me. See, well I cant 'see' words CS> quite like i am told you folks do. I read phonetically, CS> hunt-n-peck type at almost 40 words a minute, and have no CS> remaining problems anyone would note unless I told them (ah! CS> The sweet smell of success!). I, too, hunt and peck at about 35-40 wpm. Actually, I can type 100 wpm if you don't count mistakes. (BG) You have my utmost respect for facing your dyslexia head on and overcoming it. The above statement was originally directed to an obvious youngster who hastily replies to messages without even checking grammer and spelling and that "pings" a button of mine. I feel that this message base has quite a number of astute, thinking individuals who's written words are the only method by which we can identify them. In these type of communication exchanges the written word is a reflection of the authors personality, intellect, attitude, and character. The majority of the posters in ASKACOP are very intelligent and experienced enough to use proper spelling and grammar to make their messages understanding and enjoyable reading at the same time. Even with dyslexia you are able to write very informative and thoughtful post with proper spelling and punctuation. The youngster in question wasn't even trying and after suggesting that he find a dictionary he proceeded to inform me that the kids of today are right and the older people are wrong. Can you imagine that??? :-) CS> Grin, now and again, I find a word I have been spelling one CS> way for years, is spelled differently and I never noticed CS> . Oh, I use a spell checker at work for official CS> documents, but never at home. Lazy I guess! (Or is that CS> Lasy?) Once again...I apologize if my message bothered you...it really wasn't my intention. --- * Origin: Jazzmaster Point (1:124/6308.7)