--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F3E00047 Date: 03/07/98 From: MIKE MCCANN Time: 09:23am \/To: TOM RIGHTMER (Read 1 times) Subj: USE OF THIS ECHO breath and personality Requisite for most LEOS on the street, but ever notice how the ones that can schnooze and smell like something other than sweat and leather ascend to theur rifghts of command by not stepping on toes and passing only written tests and eeo programs? I wonder if some of them ever got street smartsm but they sure do look good on tv, whilst the grunts always seem harried and overworked! --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: UltraTech - Nashville, TN (615)356-0453 {V.34/V.FC} (1:116/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F3E00048 Date: 03/07/98 From: MIKE MCCANN Time: 09:29am \/To: DON BOX (Read 1 times) Subj: HUMANE SOCIETYvietvets-homeless Sorry Don the vet homeless are just a small part of the returnees. My former boss was shot up so bad that he was given last rights 3x while conscious and he has little or no respect for those that can not pr will not reintegrate themselves into productive members of society. You can not blame it all on society Don No matter how hard you try. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: UltraTech - Nashville, TN (615)356-0453 {V.34/V.FC} (1:116/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F3E00049 Date: 03/07/98 From: MIKE MCCANN Time: 09:35am \/To: LAWANDA TAYLOR (Read 1 times) Subj: Zero Tolerance thelast rules that applied to all weas Hitler the current rules are taken to extreme are promulgated by saddam husswein --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: UltraTech - Nashville, TN (615)356-0453 {V.34/V.FC} (1:116/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F3E00050 Date: 03/07/98 From: MIKE MCCANN Time: 09:38am \/To: SCOTT MCQUILKIN (Read 1 times) Subj: Police Recruitsyes I would Are you afraid to try? I'm sure you could use any experienced LEO here for a reference that wouldn't hurt you. No one will mention your immaturity, poor judgement, or tilting at windmills. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: UltraTech - Nashville, TN (615)356-0453 {V.34/V.FC} (1:116/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F3E00051 Date: 03/07/98 From: MIKE MCCANN Time: 09:43am \/To: RICH WILLBANKS (Read 1 times) Subj: zero tolerancemalpractice insurance teac09:43:2203/07/98 Most cities have their insuranceas as self insurance and maintain a risk management dept that handles incestigations and the legal dept will defend city and employees. for settlements and awards beyond a threshold special insurance commonly comes from a supplemental insurance. There are many serttlements made in Nashville and these are announced during cabletv local access. There are quite a few winners but many still go to court. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: UltraTech - Nashville, TN (615)356-0453 {V.34/V.FC} (1:116/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F3E00052 Date: 03/05/98 From: RON TAYLOR Time: 07:29am \/To: JOHN F DAVIS (Read 1 times) Subj: zero tolerance JFD>They did not suspend the student to accepted the Gluco Tab. Just the >one who gave it to him. JFD>And trust me (personal expiernece) the diabetic who "passed out" the >tablet knew what was in it. (I cary the same tablets) Are the Gluco tabs available over the counter or are they by prescription only? This could go a long way in understanding the schools actions. Knowing what is in a pill does not necessarily exonerate one who illegally distributes it, even if it is a benign substance. JFD>IN this there is discrimination as well as overaction. Thus, the school >was doubly wrong to do what they did. I agree that if the student that provided the pill was punished, the one accepting it should be also. --- * QMPro 1.02 42-7029 * OS/2 Virus Checker: MS Windows found! Remove (Y/n)? --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: CrimeBytes:Take A MegaByte Out Of Crime! (305)592-9831 1:135/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F3E00053 Date: 03/05/98 From: RON TAYLOR Time: 08:09am \/To: TOM RIGHTMER (Read 1 times) Subj: STREET PEOPLE TR> DB> Most of them know how to take care of themselves at a level I'm sure > DB> you wouldn't understand... dumpster diving can reap great rewards to > DB> someone determined to live on the fringes. Decent sleeping gear can > DB> be very cheap, and last a long time when LEO doesn't confiscate and > DB> destroy it. If they came from a family like mine, I would very well > DB> understand why they wanted no relations with them. Keeping warm and > DB> dry is no problem to experienced "campers," even in the colder > DB> latitudes. I've requoted part of Don's post because my feeling on the subject apply to both your perspectives. My comments are directed toward the issue of living on the street by choice, not one who finds himself there because of circumstances beyond his control (even though I feel that to a certain degree, the vast majority of homeless folks are there by choice). TR>You will receive another message from me indicating a little bit more >understanding in this matter. You are giving me a different perspective nd >information that nobody else has cared to share with me. Coming from someone who has `been there - done that' does help to understand why someone would live on the street as a personal choice. > The relationship >between street people and officers in my community is friendly, unless the >street person commits crimes. Do you find that street people tend to feel that they have a _right_ to a bit more latitude to "borrow" because of their plight? > Many of our officers even contribute their own >money to the street people for food and otherwise do the best they can to >help them. I have a tad of a problem here. I'm not uncharitable... not at all, but when someone _chooses_ to live a particular lifestyle, it behooves him to _support_ that lifestyle. I think maybe that is what Charles meant by "responsibility". Freedom to march to the beat of your own drum doesn't obligate me to feed you... that remains YOUR responsibility. Don didn't say how he supported himself during those months that he lived on the streets. He mentioned dumpster diving. Perfectly alright with me... if I throw away half a burger, you are welcome to it, regardless of your ability to provide for yourself. He mentioned public showers. I can live with that, but my charity is getting thinner. "Public" means "Provided by tax money"... taxes that you are unwilling to pay, but feel welcomed to spend. If you truly want "freedom", bath in a creek! If you are running from the system, don't expect it to pick you up and dust you off when you fall. I have no problem at all with one who wants to "stop the world and get off" for a while. Actually I've done that myself once. My buddy and I wanted to see the world so we headed for California almost penniless. Made it there and back and had a grand time. That was back in the days of 5-6 cent deposit return on pop bottles. We more than paid for gas for our bikes picking up bottles along the way... but the price for gas was 35 cents a gallon back then :). We picked up a bit of cash here and there doing odd jobs... maybe that was through the charity of some store keeper's heart, but nevertheless, we DID work for what we got. Our one discretion was stopping at closed stations and draining the gas out of the hose on the pumps. Actually that was stealing, but we didn't see it as such then. TR> DB> I keep hearing this word responsibility... it makes me want to puke! It was Christmas day. I stopped at a convenience store for something and a young man was sitting on the curb. When I approached, he asked me if I could give him some money so he could call home. As I reached into my pocket, he opened a brand new pack of cigarettes and lit one up. My hand stopped in mid-air. I said, "No, you can afford to smoke, I can't". I think the word "responsibility" would fit pretty well. --- * QMPro 1.02 42-7029 * "Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!" --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: CrimeBytes:Take A MegaByte Out Of Crime! (305)592-9831 1:135/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F3E00054 Date: 03/07/98 From: CHARLES HUNTER Time: 09:59am \/To: LAWANDA TAYLOR (Read 1 times) Subj: Masons and LEOS LT>Although I am familiar with the term... I have no idea what it means. >What is a Mason and, too, how does being a Mason affect law enforcement? The "Masons" are a "generic" religious cult which operates as a secret society. Their members are sworn to secrecy and to protect one another in all cases. Their organization is hundreds of years old and their members have been placed or spread throughout all facets of worldwide government, businesses and especially banking. The subject was brought up by me after I read about the British Parliament conducting hearings on Police corruption in England and where the head of the masons in England was being ordered to produce the list of names of all members who were police officers. The gist of the complaints were that the secret blood oaths of these Mason officers were promoting police corruption and illegal activities. Despite my own bias against this organization, I have tried to keep this explanation objective. You should however be aware that the many masons in the world who belong to that group are not neccessarily aware of the activites I have discussed here; and there are "good" works that they do. CHARLES HUNTER * 1st 2.00 #9124 * The best way to get praise is to die. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Services www.airpower.com 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F3E00055 Date: 03/07/98 From: CHARLES HUNTER Time: 10:00am \/To: NEAL GODFREY (Read 1 times) Subj: Victims' Rights CH> Under our system, what is neccessary is that people get concerned and CH> get involved. CH> NG>You have hit the nail right on the head Charles. My experiences as of late >in the city where I live are living proof that this city is an embarrassment >to the state. I reside in Manchester, NH and on the whole NH is an excellent >state to live in, but Manchester is an absolute joke. The only nice thing >I have to say is for the police, the other city depts could take lessons >from them in dealing with the public. And some of the ordinances are a >little overbearing to say the least. I'm surprised! I would think that in Manchester, NH the peoplel would be concerned and involved. CHARLES HUNTER * 1st 2.00 #9124 * The difference between doing it and not doing it is doing it --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Services www.airpower.com 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F3E00056 Date: 03/07/98 From: CHARLES HUNTER Time: 07:51pm \/To: RICH GRIEBEL (Read 1 times) Subj: Police Recruits RG>I just spent another week at the Academy renewing my Federal Hazmat >credentials. Got to view these Cadets for another week, perhaps our >exhaustive background wasn't exhaustive enough. We were almost shot... That's not a bad background investigation...........that's just poor aim. CHARLES HUNTER * 1st 2.00 #9124 * Thesaurus: an ancient reptile with an excellent vocabulary. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Services www.airpower.com 610-259-2193 (1:273/408)