--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1U00018 Date: 01/24/98 From: MIKE MCCANN Time: 05:41pm \/To: SCOTT MCQUILKIN (Read 1 times) Subj: Who wants the "best" shot Reactions are something unpredictable. I have been with officers "frozen" in the midst of an ongoing battle. These officers are useless by in large in these situations and those of us active fear their presence just a tad less than those who when they show up you can bet on a gunfight. It's a tightrobe in high crime areas in racially "hot" flashpoint jurisdictions. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: UltraTech - Nashville, TN (615)356-0453 {V.34/V.FC} (1:116/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1U00019 Date: 01/24/98 From: SHAWN MCGAULEY Time: 06:03pm \/To: CHARLES HUNTER (Read 1 times) Subj: Echo Area * Replying to a message in : SAVEAREA Hi Charles Hunter, hope you are having a nice day 11-Jan-98 16:08:00, Charles Hunter wrote to Shawn Mcgauley Subject: Echo Area CH> SM>Hi Charles Hunter, hope you are having a nice day CH> SM>I liked to read your messages and will look for you in the CH> other >Law echo! CH> Thanks, Shawn. CH> CHARLES HUNTER CH> * 1st 2.00 #9124 * I cna ytpe 300 wrods pre mniuet!!! Are you still typing in the Law echos? I had the same problem in DFWCHAT There rules are < DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO > -=> Yours sincerely, Shawn McGauley <=- --- Terminate 5.00 UnReg(64) * Origin: Put Criminals back in jail! mcgauley2@aebc.com (1:130/824) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1U00020 Date: 01/25/98 From: CHARLES HUNTER Time: 01:17am \/To: DAVE SMITH (Read 1 times) Subj: Censorship DS>Maybe they should be faulted for assuming that no one was stupid enough to >hot a cup of coffee between their legs while driving. Perhaps you've hit the nail on the head! CHARLES HUNTER * 1st 2.00 #9124 * Auntie Em, hate Kansas, took dog, hired lawyer, Dorothy --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Information Services 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1U00021 Date: 01/25/98 From: CHARLES HUNTER Time: 01:17am \/To: RICH GRIEBEL (Read 1 times) Subj: Censorship RG>Ok, I'm going to date myself a little here. Does anyone remember the >book that was distributed over the Internet and on college campuses in >the late 60's early 70's that was call the something or other cookbook. >It was a bomb device book that was regularly seized by law enforcement >when they found it. Anarchist's cookbook I believe. CHARLES HUNTER * 1st 2.00 #9124 * Back in the saddle again... --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Information Services 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1U00022 Date: 01/25/98 From: CHARLES HUNTER Time: 01:17am \/To: RICH GRIEBEL (Read 1 times) Subj: RE: Federal Law & Kiddie RG>Yep, it has many of the Troops I work with rethinking the pursuit >question. We'll see how things go, but if it goes the way of making the >officer responsible, me thinks the days of high speed pursuits of felons >will come to an end. I think many jurisdictions have already come to the conclusion that they have to handle high speed pursuits differently, for obvious reasons. However, I recall years ago having coffee with a Washington State Trooper and discussing his radar traffic work. He indicated that on the interstate that he worked regularly, once his radar indicated a speeder passing him, (in a stationery position), he would have to accelerate to from 80-100 MPH to catch the speeder. Even this type of situation can create a hazard. I recall in Virginia one of their troopers took off in pursuit of a speeder. In the process, he lost control of his cruiser (at very high speed). He was charged and convicted of negligent homicide. Now thats a situation I'm very uncomfortable with. CHARLES HUNTER * 1st 2.00 #9124 * C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Information Services 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1U00023 Date: 01/25/98 From: CHARLES HUNTER Time: 01:17am \/To: RD THOMPSON (Read 1 times) Subj: Censorship RT>small ones the methology. I believe that the best deterrant is to put >violators away via a speedy trial and for a long, long time. This is >the type of crime that should carry mandatory prison time rather than >marijuana and, no, I don't want to open that can of worms again. :^) This is worse than that is not a valid argument to allow either conduct. CHARLES HUNTER * 1st 2.00 #9124 * Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Information Services 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1V00000 Date: 01/25/98 From: CHARLES HUNTER Time: 04:21pm \/To: RICH WILLBANKS (Read 1 times) Subj: Censorship RW>So you like your coffee, apple pie, hamburger and >french fries should be lukewarm. That's the only your >going to prevent someone from 'injuring' themselves. >Have you ever bitten into your apple pie and burned >your tongue? Burned? Yes; but not to the point that I required hospitalization or incurred serious injury. I might add, that on the home front Mom and other cooks always warned me to let my pie cool a bit before biting because "it's very hot....". Mom never got sued. CHARLES HUNTER * 1st 2.00 #9124 * Failure is never fatal and success is never final. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Information Services 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1V00001 Date: 01/25/98 From: CHARLES HUNTER Time: 04:21pm \/To: RICH WILLBANKS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Choices... RW>Not at all. First off I did, or rather tried to do, >properly via NetMail. Second, I think if the moderator >is busy or out of the loop for some reason there is >nothing wrong with trying to let him know there is a >major problem with the echo. Which you have every right to do, Rich. CHARLES HUNTER * 1st 2.00 #9124 * Forget everything, as one day everything will forget you. --- QScan/PCB v1.19b / 01-0671 * Origin: AirPower Information Services 610-259-2193 (1:273/408) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1V00002 Date: 01/25/98 From: RD THOMPSON Time: 01:14pm \/To: RICH GRIEBEL (Read 1 times) Subj: Censorship Hi RICH, as you were just saying about Censorship.... RG> -> RT>Since the materials are much more tightly controlled than the RG> -> >instructions which are avialable in any large public library, I would RG> -> >assume that speculation is correct. RG> RG> -> Could be, Rd. You make a valid point; but nonetheless it's still RG> -> speculation. RG> RG> Ok, I'm going to date myself a little here. Does anyone remember RG> the book that was distributed over the Internet and on college RG> campuses in the late 60's early 70's that was call the something or RG> other cookbook. It was a bomb device book that was regularly seized RG> by law enforcement when they found it. I believe it was called "The Anarchist's Cookbook". RG> Finally a group took, I believe it was Berkley PD, to court over RG> taking the book as a violation of the 1st amendment. And the USSC RG> ruled on the case, but I don't remember what the ruling was and RG> can't find it in the USSC database? RG> RG> My wife reminded me of this case, but I still don't remember what RG> happened. Guess I was too busy having kids :) What was she doing at the time? :^) RD sandman@azstarnet.com - A newspaper ISP - Arizona Daily Star sandman@brassroots.org - A no compromise gun rights organization. http://www.azstarnet.com/~sandman ___ X KWQ/2 1.2i X Contrary to popular belief, the cat is not a domesticated animal. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: DPSystem:4285 OS2-WARPED 520-290-8418 USR V.e+ (1:300/105) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1V00003 Date: 01/25/98 From: RICH GRIEBEL Time: 12:20pm \/To: CHARLES HUNTER (Read 1 times) Subj: RE: Federal Law & Kiddie -> MSGID: 1:273/408@fidonet.org aed61393 -> RG>Yep, it has many of the Troops I work with rethinking the pursuit -> >question. We'll see how things go, but if it goes the way of -> making the >officer responsible, me thinks the days of high speed -> pursuits of felons >will come to an end. -> I think many jurisdictions have already come to the conclusion that -> they have to handle high speed pursuits differently, for obvious -> reasons. However, I recall years ago having coffee with a Washington -> State Trooper and discussing his radar traffic work. He indicated -> that on the interstate that he worked regularly, once his radar -> indicated a speeder passing him, (in a stationery position), he would -> have to accelerate to from 80-100 MPH to catch the speeder. Even this -> type of situation can create a hazard. I recall in Virginia one of -> their troopers took off in pursuit of a speeder. In the process, he -> lost control of his cruiser (at very high speed). He was charged -> and convicted of negligent homicide. Now thats a situation I'm very -> uncomfortable with. Thats one of the reasons we've started using the aircraft extensively for speed. The violation is well documented and the Trooper just merges onto the freeway somewhere ahead of the car and stops it. --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Kendra Communications, Everett WA (1:343/304)