--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1R00037 Date: 01/21/98 From: RD THOMPSON Time: 07:08pm \/To: CHARLES HUNTER (Read 1 times) Subj: Censorship Hi Charles, as you were just saying about Censorship.... CH> RT>I would venture that if I was a group that had possession of the CH> >materials, I already have the instructions. CH> CH> You can venture; but I believe you venture into speculation. Since the materials are much more tightly controlled than the instructions which are avialable in any large public library, I would assume that speculation is correct. RD sandman@azstarnet.com - A newspaper ISP - Arizona Daily Star sandman@brassroots.org - A no compromise gun rights organization. http://www.azstarnet.com/~sandman ___ X KWQ/2 1.2i X I drink to make people more interesting. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: DPSystem:4285 OS2-WARPED 520-290-8418 USR V.e+ (1:300/105) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1R00038 Date: 01/21/98 From: RD THOMPSON Time: 07:14pm \/To: ALAN RACKMILL (Read 1 times) Subj: Censorship Hi Alan, as you were just saying about Censorship.... AR> RT>I would venture that if I was a group that had possession of the AR> >materials, I already have the instructions. AR> AR> CH> You can venture; but I believe you venture into speculation. AR> CH> AR> AR> He has just as much right to venture into speculation as you do. AR> And you have been speculatiog just as wildly. As we all do from time to time. AR> And why are you responding to this message by him in the first AR> place? It was not addressed to you, nor is it about you. You have AR> been saying many times in the past that you were going to ignore AR> his posts except to "defend yourself". He did not attack you in this AR> post. I don't believe that I am the one he said he would do that with. He and I tend to converse with each other rather civilly although we did have a big disagreement on the "commandeering' posts along with a couple of others. BTW, this is a public echo. If I didn't want someone other than the addressee responding, I would have used a different medium. :^) RD sandman@azstarnet.com - A newspaper ISP - Arizona Daily Star sandman@brassroots.org - A no compromise gun rights organization. http://www.azstarnet.com/~sandman ___ X KWQ/2 1.2i X Sometimes I wake up grouchy.....sometimes I let her sleep. --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: DPSystem:4285 OS2-WARPED 520-290-8418 USR V.e+ (1:300/105) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1R00039 Date: 01/21/98 From: RD THOMPSON Time: 07:16pm \/To: ALAN RACKMILL (Read 1 times) Subj: Censorship Hi Alan, as you were just saying about Censorship.... AR> RT> Hi Christopher, as you were just saying about Re: AR> RT> Censorship.... AR> AR> CC> RT> No, she didn't. She sued for medical recovery. Probably would have AR> CC> RT> been about 200,000. McDonald's got a hair up their butt and went to AR> CC> RT> court thinking that they had a slam dunk. The jury awarded her those AR> CC> RT> damages, partially due to McDonald's attitude toward the common man. AR> CC> I'm sorry, please understand that this reply, even though not AR> CC> intentional, may be baised because I am now a McD employee. What AR> CC> medical damage? Who of us have nopt actually burned themselfes AR> CC> with coffee. I've done it plenty of times including on a part I AR> CC> can't mention (It can be done, even with clothes on). I NEVER had AR> CC> to go to the hospital. That hospital BS was just that, BS. I'm AR> CC> sorry, but I don't think companies should be allowed to be sued AR> CC> because the customer didn't show common sense, but that's MY AR> CC> opinion. AR> AR> RT> Did you realize that she recieved severe burns in her AR> RT> genital area (the part that you can't mention)? Bottom line AR> RT> is that the coffee in that particular Mickey Dees *was* AR> RT> overheated. AR> AR> It was not overheated. Compared to the rest of the industry, yes, it was. It was served at over 180 degrees. Boiling is only 212. AR> The coffee in McDonald's was hotter than any other place, AR> BUT it was the temperature that the Coffee Institute of AR> America recommended for coffee to be served at to produce AR> its fullest flavor. AR> This temperature is approximately 30 degrees hotter than AR> other places, if I remember my research correctly. Agreed. AR> In fact, McD was noted for the fact that it served its AR> coffee at a very hot temperature. Also agreed. AR> RT> Was she careless driving off with it between AR> RT> her legs? Yes. AR> AR> She was the passanger in the car. AR> And she put the cup of coffee between her legs in order to AR> "anchor it" while she took the top off. AR> As she was attempting to remove the top, the cup collapsed AR> and spilled the hot coffee on her. Be that as it may, she was still holding that paper cup of coffee between her legs in a vehicle that was starting to move.. AR> RT> Was Mickey Dees negligent in the AR> RT> temperature of the coffee? Yes. AR> AR> No they were not. See my comment above. AR> The little old lady was the one who was negligent. AR> Actually, she was stupid, but that is another problem altogether. Yes, she was and the jury should not have made the award. We both know that the jury award was not as much for her as it was against Mickey Dees. RD sandman@azstarnet.com - A newspaper ISP - Arizona Daily Star sandman@brassroots.org - A no compromise gun rights organization. http://www.azstarnet.com/~sandman ___ X KWQ/2 1.2i X A fool and his money are welcome anywhere.... --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: DPSystem:4285 OS2-WARPED 520-290-8418 USR V.e+ (1:300/105) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1R00040 Date: 01/19/98 From: RON TAYLOR Time: 01:22pm \/To: RICH WILLBANKS (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Choices... RW>I'm not the moderator just a echo user who is sick of >both of your childish 'am not. are too.' waste of band >with! We all are Rich... thats why I backed out as gracefully as possible. Apparently your post preceded mine on the echo. > I have tried to contact Paul, the moderator, to >have both of you 'slapped' A little presumptuous of you... don't you think? > but his link must be screwed >up. Nope. Just extremely busy. He has a life. >Some of us have to pay my hard earned money to >move these msg around. Those are the ones I referred to when I said that I was backing out for the sake of the decent ones. RW>Its nice to see that you are following the President's >example of; "I know its wrong but everyone else is >doing it." Ok. I'm black Mr. Pot.... You? --- * QMPro 1.02 42-7029 * This side up  --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: CrimeBytes:Take A MegaByte Out Of Crime! (305)592-9831 1:135/5.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1R00041 Date: 01/21/98 From: CHRISTOPHER COYNE Time: 10:38pm \/To: ALAN RACKMILL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Censorship AR> Yoy are beginning to appear as an extremely sheltered person. Then obviously you don't know me well. I won't take it personally. AR> Ok, lets take the people who were just convicted of the bombing of the AR> World Trade Center in New York City, for example. AR> We here in the US consider them terrorists. AR> However, in the Mid Ease\t (Lebanon, Egypt, Iran, Jordan, etc) they are AR> considered patriotic freedom fighters. Okay, I understand a little, even though I still don't understand how making it sound better actually makes it better. Example, a theif can say he didn't actually steal anything. He can say he was just borrowing without permission. That sonds better, doesn't it? However, he's still a theif. Peace. --- CNet/3 * Origin: [FidoNet] Christian \o/ Retreat * Flower Mound, TX * (1:124/3266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1R00042 Date: 01/21/98 From: CHRISTOPHER COYNE Time: 10:41pm \/To: ALAN RACKMILL (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Home Security AR> CC> You're right, Hitler would've had England. Possibly in a AR> CC> month. Their laws made them weak. But, their way of AR> CC> thinking also made them weak. For example, when they don't AR> CC> need the military, at leasrt back then it was the case, they AR> CC> thrwe them to the wayside. When they're needed again, they AR> CC> start building it up. That's just the way they were. AR> Many countries are like that. AR> Look at the downsizing in the US Military that has been going on over AR> the last 10 or 15 years. Yes, and it scares me a little. For example, WE ACTUALLY GOT RID OF OUR NUCLEAR WEAPONS! Now I want to know who the moron was that had that idea. I'm all for peace, but at the expense of our freedom and possibly lives? I don't think so. Peace. --- CNet/3 * Origin: [FidoNet] Christian \o/ Retreat * Flower Mound, TX * (1:124/3266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1R00043 Date: 01/21/98 From: CHRISTOPHER COYNE Time: 10:49pm \/To: TOM RIGHTMER (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Censorship TR> CC> I dunno, I think most information should be freely TR> CC> available. However, some should be on a need to know basis. For TR> CC> example, explosives and how to hack into a system without being TR> CC> traced. You see what I'm saying? Peace. TR> I understand both sides of this issue and could probably argue either TR> side. TR> Yes, I understand what you are saying Thanx, that's all I ask. I don't even ask anybody to agree with me as long as they see my point of view. Peace. --- CNet/3 * Origin: [FidoNet] Christian \o/ Retreat * Flower Mound, TX * (1:124/3266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1R00044 Date: 01/21/98 From: MIKE MCCANN Time: 08:05pm \/To: CHARLES HUNTER (Read 1 times) Subj: Who wants the "best" shot --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: UltraTech - Nashville, TN (615)356-0453 {V.34/V.FC} (1:116/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1R00045 Date: 01/21/98 From: MIKE MCCANN Time: 08:08pm \/To: CHARLES HUNTER (Read 1 times) Subj: Who wants the "best" shot "well said" perhaps, but unresponsive only to a question not posed --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: UltraTech - Nashville, TN (615)356-0453 {V.34/V.FC} (1:116/30) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1R00046 Date: 01/21/98 From: MIKE MCCANN Time: 08:14pm \/To: RICH GRIEBEL (Read 1 times) Subj: Who wants the "best" shot in a shootout?20:14:1801/21/98 "the shot never fired" is not responsive in any way to the question, but anecdotal and evasive. It was a real question requesting some serious thought and self evaluation. I receoved "MY" answer in East St. Louis, IL in 1978 in a real gunfight so the question has some thought and experience behind it or you guys can fight the kiddie flame wars til everybody leaves. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: UltraTech - Nashville, TN (615)356-0453 {V.34/V.FC} (1:116/30)