--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1G00033 Date: 01/10/98 From: TODD JASPERS Time: 08:41pm \/To: ALAN RACKMILL (Read 1 times) Subj: Mentorship -> And it is obvious that you know very little about the history of -> that time. Apparantly that era in history is being treated very -> sparingly in the school systems these days. -> But then again, there are people out there who claim that that -> Hitler never did that ind the story of how he killed SIX million -> Jews is a total fabrication And they don't even address the four -> million people other people of various other ethnic groups that -> Hitler had killed. . . I was never taught ANYTHING about the holocaust at all through grade school. As a matter of fact, if i didnt watch the history channel, i wouldnt even know who said the Kennedy Speech "Ask not... blah.." or the two Neil Armstrong quotes "Tranquility base here.. the eagle has landed... or.... Thats one small step for maaaan.... one... giant leap for mankind" or half the other stuff i've picked up. As a matter of fact, teh only time i learned ANYTHING was when i was in prep school in Massachusettes.. the rest of my time through grade school i learned nothing.. homework consisted of busy work, and that was about the extent of it. I did learn quite a bit about Architecture and Drafting and that sort cause i had a good teacher, but all my teachers have prety much sucked. . . -> The only difference between the holocaust and what happened in -> Bosnia several years ago is basically a matter of numbers/ -> "Only" two million ethnic Serbs were killed over there, not six -> million. . . Yeah.. both are still bad though. And just thought i might want to mention something, i hope im not starting any fights here.. but did you know, that the background of the Jewish race is to disreguard anyone who isnt Jewish? Obviously they dont still follow this.. at least most dont, but they have a saying, "Goyum" which means basically.. all who arent Jewish are monkeys. Some other religions and races have similar sayings too, like i believe the Muslim have this thing.. anyone who isnt muslim is scum.. which is why they have that Ethnic cleansing or whatever word they use to justify it. Im wondering if my own religion (christianity) has anything to that effect. --- InterEcho 1.19 * Origin: Law Enforcement Computer Network - (954) 430-7300 (1:369/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1G00034 Date: 01/10/98 From: RUTH HANSCHKA Time: 02:09am \/To: TODD JASPERS (Read 1 times) Subj: demonology TJ> Candyman.. except Bloody Mary is the very same woman TJ> that the drink was from. I dont remember who she was, TJ> but i believe she was a queen that was beheaded. Mabey TJ> one of Henry the 8th's wives? But supposedly.. if you Nope, she was Henry VIII's oldest surviving daughter, who died of cancer at the age or 43 or thereabouts. She got the moniker from making it a capital offense to be a practicing Protestant in England. One of the available punishments, as I recall, was beheading. OTOH, she was actually pretty typical of the monarchs up to that point in England, at least for a Tudor. This is pretty far off-topic, and I probably have some facts screwed up, but anyway.... It does make you wonder what the lawmen of that day thought of all the stuff you could get hung, shortened, or drawn and quartered for.... A few decades earlier, having the wrong ancestors was enough to ensure a trip to the headsman. That one didn't happen as much in Mary's time, because the family line in question had been pretty well wiped out by her father and andfather. And we thought American politics was rough! --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Eastern Light BBS 860/290-8578 10p-8a Only (1:142/578) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1G00035 Date: 01/11/98 From: PAUL HARNEY Time: 06:01am \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: RULES The following are the official rules of the ASKACOP conference. The rules of this conference are a living document. They will change as we change and grow as we grow. I will always remain open to ideas echo participants have regarding the rules of this conference. These should be submitted to me via NETMAIL only at my FidoNet address 1:2630/221 or via one of my two Internet address, pharney@cjbbs.com or pharney@metronj.org. The moderators of this conference are: Paul Harney 1:2630/221 Moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. REAL names are preferred in this echo. 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I am also open to well thought out suggestions regarding the conference and how it might be improved. Rants though are appended to file >NULL. I very much consider this experiment in mutually beneficial communication to be a partnership we all have a stake in. Yours in that partnership, Paul H. Moderator --- Rise and be counted * Origin: (1:2630/321) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1G00036 Date: 01/11/98 From: ALAN RACKMILL Time: 10:50am \/To: TODD JASPERS (Read 1 times) Subj: Mentorship * Reply to a message in Personal. Todd Jaspers wrote in a message to Alan Rackmill: -> And it is obvious that you know very little about the history of -> that time. Apparantly that era in history is being treated very -> sparingly in the school systems these days. -> But then again, there are people out there who claim that that -> Hitler never did that ind the story of how he killed SIX million -> Jews is a total fabrication And they don't even address the four -> million people other people of various other ethnic groups that -> Hitler had killed. TJ> . TJ> . TJ> I was never taught ANYTHING about the holocaust at all TJ> through grade school. Obviously. And unfortunately, that is the norm these days. TJ> As a matter of fact, if i didnt watch TJ> the history channel, i wouldnt even know who said the TJ> Kennedy Speech "Ask not... blah.." or the two Neil Armstrong TJ> quotes "Tranquility base here.. the eagle has landed... TJ> or.... Thats one small step for maaaan.... one... giant leap TJ> for mankind" or half the other stuff i've picked up. As a TJ> matter of fact, teh only time i learned ANYTHING was when i TJ> was in prep school in Massachusettes.. the rest of my time TJ> through grade school i learned nothing.. homework consisted TJ> of busy work, and that was about the extent of it. I did TJ> learn quite a bit about Architecture and Drafting and that TJ> sort cause i had a good teacher, but all my teachers have TJ> prety much sucked. . . -> The only difference between the holocaust and what happened in -> Bosnia several years ago is basically a matter of numbers/ -> "Only" two million ethnic Serbs were killed over there, not six -> million. TJ> . TJ> . TJ> Yeah.. both are still bad though. And just thought i might TJ> want to mention something, i hope im not starting any fights TJ> here.. but did you know, that the background of the Jewish TJ> race is to disreguard anyone who isnt Jewish? Obviously they TJ> dont still follow this.. at least most dont, but they have a TJ> saying, "Goyum" which means basically.. all who arent Jewish TJ> are monkeys. Some other religions and races have similar TJ> sayings too, like i believe the Muslim have this thing.. TJ> anyone who isnt muslim is scum.. which is why they have that TJ> Ethnic cleansing or whatever word they use to justify it. Im TJ> wondering if my own religion (christianity) has anything to TJ> that effect. Yes it does. Basically, ALL religions have that outlook. They are the true believers and all others are infidels. Alan Team OS/2, Fidonet 1:107/101, ibmNET 40:4371/101, OS2NET 80:135/15 internet: alanrackmill@mindspring.com --- timEd/2 1.01 * Origin: The Maven's Roost * MAX/2 * WARP * v.34 1-908-821-4533 1:107/101) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1G00037 Date: 01/11/98 From: ALAN RACKMILL Time: 11:00am \/To: TODD JASPERS (Read 1 times) Subj: Mentorship Todd Jaspers wrote in a message to Rd Thompson: -> TJ> Actually, you are the only one that has replied with any kind of -> TJ> snide comment. -> -> I did not perceive his comment in any way as snide. Sorry 'bout -> that. TJ> . TJ> . TJ> "Your fucking out of your mind" TJ> . TJ> that doesnt sound snide to you? TJ> . The definition of snide that comes closest to what yo mean is "slyly disparaging". I kinda think my remark to you was directly put, not slyly snuck in. An example of a snide remark would be one woman saying to another: Your hair looks lovely............If you like that shade of of pink. Alan Team OS/2, Fidonet 1:107/101, ibmNET 40:4371/101, OS2NET 80:135/15 internet: alanrackmill@mindspring.com --- timEd/2 1.01 * Origin: The Maven's Roost * MAX/2 * WARP * v.34 1-908-821-4533 1:107/101) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1G00038 Date: 01/10/98 From: DON BOX Time: 06:20am \/To: CAROL SHENKENBERGER (Read 1 times) Subj: CHOICES... CS> pay for her medical bills in return for handing the newborn over. CS> His checking account is a flat .34 cents. He has to date: 1 CS> birth certificate (On which he was NOT listed), one newborn (6 CS> days old), no experience, E1 pay, and friends who care enough to CS> make it work. Carol, if he was an E1, he'd still be in boot camp, unless busted during a Captain's Mast!!!! DB --- * RM 1.31 3089 * I love my girlfriend, but I trust my DOG. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Computer One BBS (818) 763-0678 - bbsinfo@comp1.com (1:102/836.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1G00039 Date: 01/11/98 From: LAWANDA TAYLOR Time: 11:15am \/To: JOHN F DAVIS (Read 1 times) Subj: Choices... LT> Christopher, there can be no such thing as a fatherless child. Now LT> before you go flying off the handle, think about it! There are LT> fathers who have ABANDONED their children but no child can be LT> conceived without a father. SA> not unless you "Send in the Clones" JD> Not wishing to start a debate on cloning here but the press was JD> sayin that there is a doctor in Chicago who plans on doing just that That's exactly why I didn't respond to Steve... the subject of cloning isn't something I care to debate as I feel the doctor is out of his mind not to mention that it's wrong. JD> There are, however, children who's mothers do not know who the JD> father is. That doesn't change the fact that there can be no such thing as a "fatherless" child. LaWanda --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.3 * Origin: Crime Bytes 2 - Underwood, Iowa (712)566-2872 (1:285/12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1G00040 Date: 01/11/98 From: LAWANDA TAYLOR Time: 10:33am \/To: CHRISTOPHER COYNE (Read 1 times) Subj: Charles Hunter CH> Go back to watching cartoons, Christopher. CC> You've had plenty to say to me Jeff, now take care of CC> Charles. In case you haven't notice, Christopher... this isn't AskACop2! It's AskACop... and Paul Harney is the Moderator. LaWanda --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.3 * Origin: Crime Bytes 2 - Underwood, Iowa (712)566-2872 (1:285/12) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 198 ASK A COP Ref: F1G00041 Date: 01/11/98 From: LAWANDA TAYLOR Time: 11:14am \/To: RICH WILLBANKS (Read 1 times) Subj: School buses and other -> The other day I came up on a situations were I wasn't -> sure what to do. I was driving down a four lane road -> and was slowly passing (you know where I'm doing say 55 -> and they are doing 52-54) a couple of school buses. -> Then the lead bus came to a RR crossing and started to -> stop which leads to the question. Although the bus -> didn't extend his stop sign I didn't know if I should -> stop or not. I just slowed down so the bus was moving -> before I reached it. Although I'm not a LEO... I am a driver and, too, wanted to know the answer so, I did some checking. Commercial drivers and chauffeurs with passengers, and trucks carrying flammable cargo must stop within 15 to 50 feet of railroad tracks before crossing... unless of course the crossing is marked with an exempt sign. We (you and I) must always stop at railroad crossings if the following two conditions exist: 1. Flashing warning signal or if a flagger is present 2. If your vehicle is carrying a hazardous material BTW, I live in Iowa so the above may or may not apply to you. -> Now for another question. I was taught that when you -> were turning onto a multi lane road from a two lane -> road you turned into the closest (far left) lane. Then -> moved over into the lane you wanted. In the past -> couple of months I have seen every thing from cars to -> police car to the buses in the question above turning -> into the farthest (right hand) lane. Which is correct? Although I can't find the answer in my Iowa Driver's Manual... you are correct (again if you live in Iowa). How do I know? I found out while taking my drivers test... ooops! :) LaWanda --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.3 * Origin: Crime Bytes 2 - Underwood, Iowa (712)566-2872 (1:285/12)