--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 197 EMERGENCY Ref: E1200000 Date: 12/29/96 From: BLAKE BOWERS Time: 08:07pm \/To: GARY SAFFER (Read 0 times) Subj: THIS ECHO GS> years of EMS experience, and would love to be co moderator. And as a matter of the public announcement, you are. The rules for the echo are pretty simple, much like they always have been. 1. Everyone act like adults, and get along. 2. Topic should be at least loosely observed. 3. Gating to other nets not allowed, without permission of the moderator. 4. Final say is up to the moderator, or the co-moderator. Should be simple enough for everyone, if I can follow them! Moderator is Blake Bowers, at the below address, and bbowers@townsqr.com Co-Moderator is Gary Saffer. There may be a third. And deer resucing on the echo is not allowed....(Grin) --- PPoint 1.98 * Origin: KD4RME, The POINT of it all.... (1:284/99.10) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 197 EMERGENCY Ref: E1200001 Date: 12/28/96 From: MICHAEL GARVIN Time: 03:51pm \/To: GREG CRAVEN (Read 0 times) Subj: Training GC>Our Service is looking at putting into place an aggressive Driver GC>Training program. Also an SOP for vehicle accidents. Does anyone GC>have a good program in place they would care to share? Sure, Second Alarmer Rescue Squad had a dynamite program. I'll send you a copy of it if you'd be so kind and to provide me with a snailmail address. You can reply here or via internet, M.Garvin@juno.com. One thing you may want to consider which Second Alarmers does not (to my dismay) is an accellerated and/or separate program for persons with the Commerical Driver's License (CDL). These people have taken an especially thorough test already and have most of the skills, if not more, to drive. The only addition would of course be the lights and siren thing. Here in PA we have EVOC (Emergency Vehicle Operators Course) mandated for all operators of any emergency vehicle, including private ambulace services. Michael Garvin, EMT-P --- OLX 2.2 TD Lost Animals Network (voice) 215-886-7355 box 800 --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: FIDONET * Remote Control BBS * (610)623-5273 (1:273/420.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 197 EMERGENCY Ref: E1200002 Date: 12/27/96 From: JONATHON JACOB Time: 12:02pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Ambulance accident The following is copied from information in the Fort Wayne, Indiana, newspaper, The Journal Gazette: There were three related accidents last week which resulted in the deaths of an EMT, two motorists, and a fetus. It all began when a man drove his car off an area county road and struck a tree. An ambulance was dispatched with a team of 4 inside. The man was immobilized and being transported to a local hospital. The time was aproximatly 3:00am. A seventeen year old girl was traveling in the opposite direction of the traveling ambulance, crossed the center line and struck the ambulance head on. The seventeen year old girl and the driver of the ambulance, an EMT-A, were killed instantly. One of the medics was 4 months pregnant, and lost her fetus as a result of injuries sustained in the accident. The man involved in the car vs tree accident had requested the Sheriff's Department contact his brother to have him meet the ambulance at the hospital. The brother's vehicle was struck by a semi while making a U-turn on a divided highway and was killed. These events occurred on December 23rd. I intentionally waited to post this information until after Christmas for holiday reasons, not wanting to depress anyone for the holidays... The Toxicology reports on the seventeen year old have not been released yet, but the man in the original accident is reported to have been DUI with a B/A level of .12 (.10 is legally drunk in Indiana). My First Responder instructor, an EMT-A herself, was on the crew that responded to the head-on accident, she said it was a horrific mess. One of the crew in the struck ambulance regained conciousness before they arrived and had put out a small fire in the seventeen year old's car, and was tending to the needs of those in the ambulance when they arrived. I know this isn't a religous base, and I hope I don't break any rules by doing this; but please keep the medics, families, and community of those involved in these accidents in your prayers. This has stuck the small town where the accident happened with a lot of shock and grief - with questions not yet answered. The funeral for the EMT was attended by many EMS, fire, and law enforcement representatives. * SLMR 2.1a * Borg DOS 6.0. Assimilate drive C:? (Y)es, (O)k or (F)ine? --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/2 * Origin: The Disaster Area | Ft. Wayne, IN | NDMS DMAT IN-2 | (1:236/58) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 197 EMERGENCY Ref: E1200003 Date: 12/28/96 From: MISTER KAMI Time: 08:19am \/To: DOUG BROWN (Read 0 times) Subj: coooooool DB>Man, I'm glas I'm not up there right now! hehe I can tolerate USA cold, DB>but nowhere I've ever lived has been THAT cold this early! DB>Have a Merry Christmas and a safe New Year Karl Ahhh, come on...nothing compares to fighting a fire in 20 below weather!!! You come out all wet and freeze instantly into a "rusting" robot!!! --- OLX 2.1 TD Dan Quayle thinks that Cheerios are donut seeds. * Origin: The Playhouse TC's Gaming BBS - Powered by WC5 (1:282/4059) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 197 EMERGENCY Ref: E1200004 Date: 12/23/96 From: CHRIS NOLD Time: 02:05pm \/To: JAMES NOLD (Read 0 times) Subj: 311 -> Well, 911 is easier to rember than a seven digit number...not really -> laziness, how often do you call 911? -> I am 911. -> Yea, they'll figure it out reall quick. So the barking dog becomes... -> a barking dog that MIGHT be barking at someone lurking around my back -> yard. And just how fast will they be taken to court because they -> though the call was a 311 instead of a 911 emergency. The caller -> might even feel an real emergency should be call into via 311 in -> fear, or whatever, of misusing the 911 number..... No. You can keep saying things like that, and that's what the public tries to do, but if a heavy hand steers the program right, things like this won't fly. I'm tired of debating it. Chris --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Rowlett PD CrimeStoppers BBS (214)412-6262 (1:124/3152.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 197 EMERGENCY Ref: E1200005 Date: 12/30/96 From: JASON LOW Time: 11:46pm \/To: MISTER KAMI (Read 0 times) Subj: coooooool MISTER KAMI, when pressured, spilled this about coooooool: MK> Ahhh, come on...nothing compares to fighting a fire in 20 below MK> weather!!! -20's nothing. :) Saw a building fire today in the city, and it's presently -35 or so (or was then). They froze 3 hydrants and needed a City Engineering flatbed to cart out the used-up hose. May have also frozen a Squrt in extended position somehow, too.. :) * Origin: deltaBoard! [403-949-3015] (1:134/242) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 197 EMERGENCY Ref: E1200006 Date: 12/21/96 From: ALLEN BALLARD Time: 4:30:am \/To: GEORGE VAISEY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: In The Line Of Duty Death.. Yes I would like you to add Allen Davis to your list. He was a EMT killed in a crash where he was driving his ambulance back from Little Rock Ar. --- SLMAIL v3.5B (#2402) * Origin: *** S.G.A. BBS *** Batesville, Arkansas (1:389/16) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 197 EMERGENCY Ref: E1400000 Date: 01/04/97 From: MISTER KAMI Time: 11:35am \/To: JASON LOW (Read 0 times) Subj: coooooool JL> MK> Ahhh, come on...nothing compares to fighting a fire in 20 below JL> MK> weather!!! JL>-20's nothing. :) Saw a building fire today in the city, and it's JL>presently -35 or so (or was then). They froze 3 hydrants and needed a JL>City Engineering flatbed to cart out the used-up hose. May have also JL>frozen a Squrt in extended position somehow, too.. :) Last winter we had a fire in the "big freeze"...about 32 below. We were still getting frozen hoses out of the yard in the spring! --- OLX 2.1 TD I am Beavis, a Borg. Assimilation is cool. Heh-heh-heh * Origin: The Playhouse TC's Gaming BBS - Powered by WC5 (1:282/4059) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 197 EMERGENCY Ref: E1B00000 Date: 01/02/97 From: JAMES NOLD Time: 01:47am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: HAPPY NEW YEAR!! I would like to take a second to wish everyone and their families a HAPPY NEW YEAR!! 1996 was a great year for me wife and myself, we now have a 7 wk old son, God has truely blessed us. Work is great and getting better every day. On top of all that, I have some great friends and a wonderful family. I just hope God has blessed each of you as well and that you have a great 1997!!! James, Pamela and James David II, Nold --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: Rowlett PD CrimeStoppers BBS (214)412-6262 (1:124/3152.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 197 EMERGENCY Ref: E1B00001 Date: 01/05/97 From: DOUG BROWN Time: 09:01pm \/To: KARL UMSTATTER (Read 0 times) Subj: Cold 911 response Brrrrrrrrrrrr hehe I can just imagine extrication in that kind of cold. I would imagine it would be a real bugger trying to keep a shocky patient warm in that! The certification sounds good. Here we have to send our money in to the various states we work in. In Florida, an EMT-P has to have 45 continuing education credits every two years. It costs $45 to recert here. Other states have certification for anywhere from a year to three years. THere may still be some that go for four years, but I kind of doubt it. We have a National REgistry of EMT's and Paramedics also. But it isn't a mandatory thing in most states. More and more of the states are recognizing and utilizing the REgistry. Here in FLorida, we have the choice of either taking the National REgistry exam or the state exam. Most people I know do the state, because Florida has no practicial exam, just a written. The National exam has a practical exam as well as written. When I originally certified as a paramedic, it was in Pennsylvania. We had bath practical and written exams there. When I came to Florida, I was shocked at how easy the exam was, and that there was no practical! Well, got to run. Looking forward to teh trauma story Karl! Have a good "WARM" day! --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0GU * Origin: Drum Corps USA : 904-666-8405 (1:3601/15)