--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F2R00010 Date: 02/21/98 From: VINCE COEN Time: 01:36pm \/To: JIM SANDERS (Read 0 times) Subj: news-005 Hello Jim! Wednesday February 18 1998, Jim Sanders writes to Vince Coen: >> Tarmac is also named after a building company based in the UK. JS> Who owns the trademark. The building Company? Now you've got me, Pass. Vince. --- ADEPT 1.11/GoldED/2 2.50+#10UK3 under OS/2 * Origin: Air Applewood; OS/2 Gateway to Essex +44-1279-792300 (2:257/609) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F2R00011 Date: 02/21/98 From: ABDULHADI AL-JUHANI Time: 11:48pm \/To: GRAHAM JOHNSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Mobiles onboard -=> Quoting Graham Johnson to Abdulhadi Al-juhani 02-18-98 08:08 <=- Hello Graham .. GJ> Firstly I must mention that I'm not a pilot. GJ> Like your good self I don't believe that the engines are controlled GJ> via radio waves in anyway what so ever. GJ> The very idea of such stupidity makes me shudder. GJ> If on the other hand I'm wrong, which wouldn't be the first time and GJ> they are controlled via radio waves the link would be via more than GJ> one coaxial cable. GJ> This is a cable with a single conductor in it's center and protected GJ> from external interference by a metal sheath around it. That's true as you said .. escpecially with todays technology a radio waves controlled aircraft engines seems impossible .. But as always announced aboard, these Mobiles may interfere with Navigation Equipments (may be the GPS) .. Best Regards .. ABDULHADI AL-JUHANI > e-mail (1) : abdulhadi.al-juhani@dari.com > e-mail (2) : abdulhadi.al-juhani@vortex.saudi.org ... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"... ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: VORTEX BBS Riyadh, Saudi Arabia 966-01-2512575,,,,64 (2:541/400) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F2R00012 Date: 02/20/98 From: TOM PULLYARD Time: 10:37pm \/To: KARL SCHNEIDER (Read 0 times) Subj: A300 Karl, KS>>he claimed to have been told by someof his friends who work for KS>>American Airlines over in Tulsa that the A300 cannot be banked over KS>>45 degrees without losing the AH display for several seconds. KS>>Anyone ever hear of such a thing? I work for the Airline who was the Launch Customer of the A300-600. I have worked on this Simulator for this airline for 2 1/2 years. In my experience the Primary Flight Display will loose some information. But the Attitude Director (you call AH) will remain. None the less, regardless of this, the Standby ADI is only a few inches to the Right of the Primary Flight Display in the CP from the Captains side. The information that is lost is: Airspeed, Radio Altitude, Flight Director, and FMA The Airspeed information I am referring to is the digital/graphical display in the PFD. The Airspeed Indicator immediately left of the PFD is still valid all the time. Also the Auto pilot will not direct the Aircraft into such an angle. This can only be done in Manual Flight (Barring no malfunctions). ie Eng out etc. I have listed the above information from Memory. I will check tomorrow and get back if any of what I stated is grossly incorrect. BTW I have a house in Tulsa, tom.pullyard@scity.org --- * OLXWin 1.00b * If this isn't a war, why is CNN massing on the border? * Origin: (2:542/800) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F2R00013 Date: 02/21/98 From: TOM PULLYARD Time: 06:13pm \/To: KARL SCHNEIDER (Read 0 times) Subj: A300 Karl, S>>Anyone ever hear of such a thing? I went to work this morning & gave a check........ The information that is lost is: Radio Altitude, Flight Director, Flight Mode Annunciator, Selected Airspeed window (for A/P). Turn/Slip (if in ILS Mode) This Airspeed (Graphical Display Actually stays in View.) The Target Speed remains as well. Also the Auto pilot will not direct the Aircraft into such an angle. This can only be done in Manual Flight (Barring no malfunctions). ie Eng out etc. This information is also lost from the display if a pitch attitude is greater than 25 degrees up or greater than 12 degrees nose down. I stayed in a 60' bank for 1 minute and the basic Attitude information remains. I have done 360 degrees rolls as well and the ADI information is not lost. The only time the PFD will blank and give a diagonal line is a loss of power during a generator reset. Or pulling the CBs to the Signal Generator Unit that drives each display. Have a good Day! tom.pullyard@scity.org --- * OLXWin 1.00b * If this isn't a war, why is CNN massing on the border? * Origin: (2:542/800) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F2R00014 Date: 02/20/98 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 11:40am \/To: JIM DAWSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: news-030 JIM, In a message dated 02-17-98 you wrote ... > Sad day when the Navy operates ex-Looking Glass. Agreed. But there is no more SAC or LeMay. > Adding more civilians > to depot operations may not help save money. Every one of my trips > through Warner Robins found civilians sitting on their butts plyaing > cards most of the time. Having run AIO (Now Civil Engineering) for 3 years, I can agree about many of the Civilian types... Mine did a rather good job but amny problems not associated with military personnel.. -=* Jim Sanders *=- ... Good advice is one of those insults that ought to be forgiven. === * MsgView V1.13 [R028] * --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F2R00015 Date: 02/20/98 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 11:40am \/To: KARL SCHNEIDER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: news-023 KARL, In a message dated 02-18-98 you wrote ... > Well, it would be difficult to put the cable CAR on a map, but I > saw a portion of what looked like an ONC chart on CNN yesterday > that clearly showed the *cable*. I have posted lost of the news conflicts here. Judge for yourself. I have never flown low-leve in Europe. Only the U.S. and Canada.. I just know that many mistakes are made... by all.... Will Cohen turn the crew over to the Italians to prosecute for manslaughter? Who knows... Think back to why Fogleman resigned. -=* Jim Sanders *=- === * MsgView V1.13 [R028] * Hard work never killed but why chance it! --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F2R00016 Date: 02/20/98 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 11:40am \/To: ROBERT LINENWEBER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: news-027 ROBERT, In a message dated 02-18-98 you wrote ... > I did two tours as a recon pilot in I Corp and then took off the > uniform. Later joined the Reserves and went to helicopter transition. > Later went to the Safety Officer Course and served as a safety officer > for seven years. For the last five I've been flying a desk. In another > 32 months I'll hit my mandatory removal date. Maybe I'll be ready to > hang it up then, but for now I'm happy to be able to keep on serving. > Best regards, .. Bob Nice career... It is "call out the G-- D--n Reserves" but the reserves and National Guard has been downsized so much we do not know how many we can get.... I was a Reservist who went past the old mandatory 20 years for retirement of 20 years.. I made L.t Col. Twice (once in reserve and once on active duty) over 5 years apart. I was in grade as a Major fo almost 11 years not because I had done anything wrong they kept changing the promotion criteria. At one time I had 6 years in grad as Major and was not qualified as one... I was offered a SECOND extension of my Reserve career which would also have meant Colonel... but I did not want the extended active duuty. I was on Guam flying the long ones to 'Nam with LBJ and Strange Mac calling signals... Guess what our intelligence office said they found after our first mission to 'Nam? "10,000 monkeys, hanginng from their tails with fingers in their ears." His statement not mine... So I quit soon after I came home... -=* Jim Sanders *=- === * MsgView V1.13 [R028] * Elvis' back fence !..! (..) {..} ^..^ --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F2R00017 Date: 02/20/98 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 11:40am \/To: ROBERT LINENWEBER (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: gosport ROBERT, In a message dated 02-18-98 you wrote ... > Allow me to ask you a question. Was the gosport of old a one way device > (instructor talking and student listening) or was there a sound > connection in both directions? The Gosport was a oneway device. TO student. You could not ask a question or see the instructors hands and feet to see HOW he did a maneuver... He could also get your attention by "rapping hell out of your knees with the stick." In case you do not know, Gosport was a famous training school in England.. I would preferr the side by side for instruction.. I liked it when working on my commercial and instrument.. -=* Jim Sanders *=- === * MsgView V1.13 [R028] * You can observe a lot by watching. --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F2R00018 Date: 02/20/98 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 11:40am \/To: JIM DAWSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: news-023 JIM, In a message dated 02-19-98 you wrote ... > Great story about the ex-POW running the German POWs. At Camp > Atterbury, INdiana, we had ex-Africa Corps Germans and they worked in > the mess hall and palyed soccer the rest of the time. Good deal for them > and they knew it. T/Sgt Dean, who chased our flight line POWs, would come in my office and we would discuss POW things. On mention of some of the foods and quality, I looked over and my secretary was getting a bit "green around the gills." I did not realize that she was listening. We were pretty crowded in those old hangar offices... Later she told me that she thought we were doing it to make her ill... Just did not notice she was there and listening. One does not go from 180 down to 112 on GOOD food... :) -=* Jim Sanders *=- === * MsgView V1.13 [R028] * Be careful what you wish for, you might get it. --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F2R00019 Date: 02/21/98 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 07:04am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Sowell 221 Bombs may not be optimum solution - By Thomas Sowell Nothing is easier than getting into a war. Getting out can be a lot harder. Vietnam should have taught us that --- and the lesson should not need repeating. President Clinton's speech in the Pentagon, attempting to ex- plain what our purpose is in attacking Iraq, was long on platitudes and elaborations of the obvious but very short on the real question - just what result will cause us to stop the war and go home? He totally ignored the most ominous question of all: What if this widens into a bigger war involving more countries? Iraq tried to widen the Gulf War of 199l by firing missiles into Israel, which had nothing to do with that war but whose retaliation might have brought in other Arab nations or even the Russians. Israel held off retaliating, but we cannot count on such restraint again, especially if Iraqi missiles with chemical or biological war- heads start landing on Jerusalem or Tel Aviv. If Israel retaliation brings in Arab nations, Russians may not be far behind. Russian leaders have already warned us that a Middle East war could escalate into World War III. Maybe they are just bluffing. But maybe they are not The Russians need not declare war. They can always send in "vol- unteers" with equipment to counter American high-tech military power, and we would be faced with a wholly different situation from a replay of the 1991 Gulf War. We have been kidding ourselves for too long that Russia is no longer a superpower. Any nation with enough nuclear missiles to wipe American cities off the map is not chopped liver. If nothing else, the openly expressed belligerence of Russian leaders shows that there are political brownie points to be won in Russia by taking a stand against the United States. If Boris Yeltsin, whom we have helped, is willing to inject himself into a Middle East issue like this, what about more strident Russian nationalists who are waiting in the wings for Yeltsin's political or personal demise? It might well be foolish for the Russians to follow up their threats with military action in the Middle East or elsewhere. But many wars have been ignited or escalated by foolish actions. Incidentally how wise are we to extend NATO into Russia's back- yard in Eastern Europe, when they are already talking tough about something happening farther away and and among people with whom they have had no historic ties? Eastern Europe and the Balkans have some of the most turbulent histories of any regions in the world -- and Russians have intervened militarily there under both the czars and the Communists. Extending NATO into Russia's backyard is a high-risk and low- yield policy which may have something to do with Russia's belligerent response toward American military action in Iraq. Wars should never be begun with the rosy assumption that every- thing will go according to plan. Nor should we start a war because we just have to do something about somebody we detest. Saddam Hussein is certainly rotten, but are we prepared to start bombing every rotten despot? Are we even prepared to start bombing every country with wea- pons of mass destruction? Bill Clinton has failed to tell us what his exit strategy is. When will we stop the war and go home? When Saddam Hussein agrees to unlimited U.N. inspection? What if he never agrees? Will we keep bombing the Iraqis forever? Saddam Hussein doesn't care how many Iraqis we kill. But the American public will, and especially when the dead Iraqi women and children are televised in Baghdad and brought into every American home at dinner time. Add to that the dead Americans coming home in body bags, and you do not have the conditions needed for lasting public support for extended military action. In the 1991 Gulf War, we had clear objectives and the ability to win those objectives in short order. The objective was to drive the Iraqi army out of Kuwait and destroy its equipment. When that was done, we could declare victory and go home. The Clinton administration shows its usual pattern of playing everything politically by ear on a day-to-day basis. But, in war such shortsightedness has often been the road to long-run tragedy. If nothing else, the current Middle East crisis has shown how little we can count on most of our allies when the chips are down. Why are we acquiring more such allies on the Russian borders, where they may be more dangerous to us than to the Russians if we allow ourselves to get dragged into their century old hostilities? Economist Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford, Calif. He writes this column for Creator's Syndicate. Knoxville News Sentinel 21 Feb 98 --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1)