--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F1K00007 Date: 01/15/98 From: MANUEL HOLLAND Time: 12:01am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: San Antonio I am planning a trip to San Antonio the weekend of Jan 23. What is available in the way of Aviation Museums etc. Is the XM-99 (cargo version of B-36) still on display. Thanks in advance for the information. ... (A)bort (F)ail (T)oss computer across room --- QuickBBS 2.81 Ovr * Origin: FAA ASO-FSDO-15 BBS / Orlando, Florida (1:363/275) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F1K00008 Date: 01/14/98 From: ED KOON Time: 09:17pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Telnet Accessable Fidonet BBS! Greetings All! Just a quick plug for my bbs! Lost your favorite Fidonet BBS? I toss the complete Fidonet Backbone! Access is Free! Access it from anywhere with Telnet! or Http in with your favorite browser! Free Instant Access! No Bothersome Call Back Verifier! Telnet to docsplace.dyn.ml.org 10 Cd Roms online too! 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Doc's Place Online. telnet://docsplace.dyn.ml.org --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Fido Mail & Adult! http://docsplace.dyn.ml.org Ftp (1:3603/140) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F1K00009 Date: 01/14/98 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 11:07am \/To: JIM DAWSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: news-876 JIM, In a message dated 01-1298 you wrote ... > My kids played with my cap and got full use out of it years ago. I have one with the "Farts and Darts" on the visor stored in the bax that I intend to show my Great Grandchildren.. :) -=* Jim Sanders *=- ... We can't call the crash crew out, They're on their coffee hour. === * MsgView V1.13 [R028] * --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F1K00010 Date: 01/14/98 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 07:48pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: News-978 Update 51 killed in plane crash in Pakistan QUETTA, Pakistan - Jan 14, 1998 11:19 a.m. EST -- All 51 people on board were killed when an Afghan transport plane crashed over- night into mountains in a Pakistani border region, Pakistani and Afghan officials said Wednesday. The commander of a Pakistani paramilitary force in the area, quoted by the official APP news agency, said the wreckage of the Ariana Afghan Airlines plane had been found in the Khojak Pass area in the southwestern Pakistani province of Baluchistan. He said there were no survivors among the 45 passengers and six crew members. A spokesman for Afghanistan's Taliban Islamic movement government in Kabul confirmed there were no survivors from the Russian-built Antonov plane, which officials said crashed while coming to land at Pakistan's Quetta airport after failing to land inside Afghanistan because of bad weather. APP quoted Colonel Mujtaba, a local commander of the Frontier Corps paramilitary force, as saying that the charred remains of the victims were being taken out of the wreckage and would be sent to their families for burial. Pakistani officials said earlier Wednesday that bad weather and fog had delayed rescue teams from reaching the crash site. An official said that four-wheel drive vehicles were being used to make their way through the mountains, but added that their pro- gress was being hampered by rain, snow, and a lack of roads. Pakistani officials initially said Tuesday night that the plane was carrying about 80 people, but the Taliban officials said only 51 people were on board. The Taliban also said there were no senior government officials among them. Mullah Abdul Jalil, the Taliban deputy foreign minister, was quoted by a Pakistan-based Afghan news service Tuesday night as say- ing the plane had flown from the southern town of Kandahar to Herat in the northwest, but failed to land there because of bad weather. It turned back and tried to land at first at Shindand, a former Soviet base to the south of Herat, then back at Kandahar. Afghan Islamic Press (AIP), a private Pakistan-based news agency, quoted Taliban officials as saying that after failing to land at Kandahar, the plane headed toward Quetta, capital of Baluchistan province, and crashed -- possibly because it run out of fuel. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Report details frequency of in-flight medical problems on US airlines ARLINGTON, VA -- Jan 14, 1998 2:07 p.m. EST (1907 GMT) -- Nearly 30 medical emergencies occur each day on U.S. airliners, according to a report obtained by USA Today. The account in Wednesday's editions of the paper says there were 10,471 medical emergencies and 42 deaths on 6.4 million domestic flights in 1996. It cites an internal Air Transport Association report, obtained by the paper, that deals with emergencies on nine airlines that carry 90 percent of U.S. flyers. It said the most common ailments were fainting or dizziness; in- juries, usually from air turbulence; difficulty breathing; heart attack; and strokes. The Federal Aviation Administration is considering new rules on how airliners should be equipped to cope with on-board medical emergencies. "We look forward to getting this (information)," FAA official Eliot Brenner told the paper. In light of the Air Transport report, Delta and American Airlines said they would spend about $3 million each to equip planes with emergency equipment and life support drugs. Other airlines, USA Today reported, may follow. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Business class prices take off again in 1998 European routes, booked in advance, are low Jan 14, 1998 11:19 a.m. EST - Packing for a last-minute business trip? You're probably paying a hefty sum for your airline ticket. "For the first time ever, we're seeing major north-south routes go over $1,000 and we're seeing major transcontinental routes go over $2000," said CNN business travel consultant Chris McGinnis, "and this is in coach." Airlines raked in record profits in 1997, and there's no end in sight for rising business fares. "In the airline industry, we believe fares are going to be up in the neighborhood of five to six percent ," said Eric Altschul of American Express. "That's on top of a huge increase we saw in 1997." In fact, according to American Express, business fares rose al- most 40 percent over the past two years. Travelers can avoid pricey fares by using alternate airports -- like Midway in Chicago or Hobby in Houston -- where low-fare car- riers keep prices in check. Other tricks are shopping the Internet for last-minute deals, or, as a last resort, staying over a Saturday night. There's a bright side to increasing costs: Airlines say they'll reward their best customers -- those paying the highest fares -- with more perks like frequent flyer bonuses, preferred seating and special reservations phone numbers. And not all costs are increasing: If you're traveling for fun and can plan ahead, you can take advantage of fares to Europe that are lower than they've been in years. Last week Northwest and KLM offered extreme bargains to several European cities -- and now other airlines are matching them. From the East Coast you'll pay less than $300 round trip, and under $350 from West Coast cities. "Last summer as you recall the planes were bulging at the seams full of passengers, so there's a lot of equipment on those routes now that the airlines are trying to keep full this winter," said McGinnis. To get these deals, you must buy tickets within the next two weeks for travel between now and mid-March. --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F1K00011 Date: 01/15/98 From: RICHARD BRICE Time: 08:42pm \/To: JAY HANIG (Read 0 times) Subj: NTSB ACCIDENT INVESTIGATIONS I will as soon as I can get a little time. Thanks for your reply. Richard --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: The Grotto - Arvada, CO (303) 421-7186 V.32bis (1:104/251) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F1K00012 Date: 01/15/98 From: RICHARD BRICE Time: 08:43pm \/To: TONY PATON (Read 0 times) Subj: RE: NTSB ACCIDENT INVESTI I will. Thanks for your reply. Richard --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: The Grotto - Arvada, CO (303) 421-7186 V.32bis (1:104/251) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F1K00013 Date: 01/15/98 From: RICHARD BRICE Time: 08:44pm \/To: ISMAIL ALSHAFIE (Read 0 times) Subj: NTSB ACCIDENT INVESTI I will as soon as I can get some spare time. Thanks for your reply. Richard --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: The Grotto - Arvada, CO (303) 421-7186 V.32bis (1:104/251) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: F1L00000 Date: 01/16/98 From: TONY PATON Time: 12:08am \/To: JIM SANDERS (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: news-896 -=> While breaking out of cloud Jim Sanders boldly told Tony about Re: news-896 JS> On training flights, 500 feet was normal clearance. JS> In actual combat, we would have gone as low as JS> possible with terrain... It was possible to bet JS> that monster pretty low OR high. I dropped one JS> ttest load for USAF from 55,000... 1965 Not bad. \ ------------ >-==- TONY PATON / ... 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