--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDF00004 Date: 09/09/97 From: TONY PATON Time: 10:44pm \/To: JEFFREY ITZSTEIN (Read 0 times) Subj: Comment 9/09/97 22:44 Where has the computroplis been? --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Computropolis Interactive Net Server +612-9545-0186 (3:712/407) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDF00005 Date: 09/09/97 From: JAY HANIG Time: 08:22pm \/To: ELVIS HARGROVE (Read 0 times) Subj: sprinklers 09 Sep 97 07:04, Elvis Hargrove wrote to Hal Hanig: EH> Hey, good to see you back among us Hal! Everything Okay? My father is a downlink of my system, and NONE of our outbound mail was making it past George Peace's system. Our packets went to 1:379/33, and he sent them to the Eastern star (George Peace) where they would disappear. I have a copy of all my outbound messages (echo and netmail) that I keep, so reposting messages isn't a problem. Dad's not set up the same way, so he doesn't have the option. Jay --- GoldED/386 2.50+ * Origin: If It's Not Boeing, I'm Not Going. (1:379/41.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDF00006 Date: 09/10/97 From: MIKE OBRIEN Time: 09:52pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Mir News RUSSIAN MIR Not Working Again! ------------------- (Newspaper headline) No more Stalin, someone said that it has no Bering on the subject of space travel but let's not Minsk words; I think this was more than rude, it was Volga. I'd respond to this but I Moscow to bed now... Regards, Mike O'Brien mailto: Mike.Obrien@privates.org "The buck doesn't even slow down here!" --- * CMPQwk #1.42* UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: The Private's BBS Bloomington, Mn. 1-612-881-0092 (1:282/4063) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDF00007 Date: 09/09/97 From: RAY HARKNESS Time: 09:04pm \/To: CHARLES MIELKE (Read 0 times) Subj: News-673 RH>cabin fires being fueled by emergency oxygen. Barry also said that RH>he thought compressed air could be used instead of oxygen. CM> In the event of a loss of pressurization at altitude, CM> compressed air could NOT be used instead of oxygen. Hi Charles, How long does it take for a modern airliner to descend from altitude to say 15,000 feet after a decompression ? I agree compressed air is not suitable for a long period but surely it only takes a few minutes to make an emergency descent. -=RH=- --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: GenBOARD/2 (Wgtn, New Zealand) HST/DS 64-4-479-1960 (3:771/160) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDF00008 Date: 09/09/97 From: RAY HARKNESS Time: 09:56pm \/To: JIM DAWSON (Read 0 times) Subj: My Sis JD> Continental's new flat 4 diesel for aircraft will be 2 cycle, supercharged of about 286 CID and deliver 200 HP. JD>include glow plugs, big water drains and monster air filters, Hi Jim, I do not know a lot about diesel engines but some people down here have had problems with a bug that actually grows in the fuel tank and leaves a slimmy residue. It seems to be common in tanks that are occasionally used. That is if you are turning over your fuel stock regularly - no problem. Some mechanics nickname these engines as disease-iles. I have also heard of problems with different grades of deisel being supplied in winter and summer. Some people topped up their large underground holding tanks in summer and then found the fuel caused engine problems in winter. My point here - if I am correct - is that ordinary motor vehicle diesel may not be suitable for aviation use. Have you any knowledge of the above problems ? -=RH=- --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: GenBOARD/2 (Wgtn, New Zealand) HST/DS 64-4-479-1960 (3:771/160) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDF00009 Date: 09/09/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 07:46pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: News-706 Crashed Vietnamese plane not suited to bad weather HANOI (September 9, 1997 11:57 a.m. EDT) - The Vietnam Airlines Tupolev-134B that crashed in heavy rain near Phnom Penh last week, killing 64 people, is "not very suited to bad weather conditions," an airline official was quoted as saying Tuesday. Vietnam Airlines general director Le Duc Tu told the official "Tuoi Tre" newspaper that the Russian-made Tupolev "is a plane of the old generation, which is not perfect and not very suited to bad weather conditions." He cautioned, however, "there has not been any conclusions from investigators so it is still impossible to know the real cause of the accident." The crash last Wednesday left only two survivors, a 4-year-old Vietnamese boy and a Thai infant. Preliminary reports indicated the plane had missed its approach and crashed while trying to pull up for another landing attempt in torrential rain, investigators in Cambodia said. The plane had been bound from Ho Chi Minh City to Phnom Penh, where weather conditions in general "are ideal for landings and takeoffs, contrary to other airports in the region," an airline spokesman said last week. "The Tupolev was in good shape," he said. Nevertheless, Vietnam Airlines has pulled its four remaining Tupolevs from service pending the outcome of the investigation, which is expected to be lengthy. The airline's insurance company said Tuesday it was preparing for negotiations with families of the victims and had already made advance compensation payments to some of them. The airline has been authorized to distribute $2,540 to families of Vietnamese victims and up to $10,000 to families of the non-Viet- namese who died, said the Bao Minh Insurance company official, who declined to be identified. A spokesman for the airline in Hong Kong said last week that victims' families would receive $150,000 in compensation each, but an insurance company official said final compensation will not be determined until the cause of the crash is known. He said Bao Minh has empowered the British law firm Beaumont and Sons to negotiate with families on a case-by-case basis, with pay- outs related to the victims' earning capabilities. Among the victims were 22 Taiwanese and 21 South Koreans with the rest from Australia, Britain, China, Hong Kong, Japan, Vietnam among other countries. ---------------------- Afghan opposition pilots defect with jets ISLAMABAD (September 9, 1997 10:57 a.m. EDT) --- The pilots of three jet fighters in Afghanistan's northern opposition alliance defected on Tuesday and landed at two western airports controlled by the Taleban Islamic movement, a Pakistan-based Afghan news service said. The Afghan Islamic Press (AIP) said the jets flew from the opposition's northern base of Shibarghan and two of them landed at Herat and one at Shindand. ----------------------------- ---- --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDF00010 Date: 09/10/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 06:14am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: News-707 First female air force secretary resigns WASHINGTON (September 9, 1997 6:15 p.m. EDT) - Sheila Widnall, the U.S. Air Force's first female secretary, announced Tuesday she will step down Oct. 31, ending a four-year tenure buffeted by con- troversies over sex in the military. An expert in aeronautics and astronautics, Widnall will return to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Her resignation, announced by the air force, had been expected for some time. She is credited with shepherding the C-17 transport aircraft into service and for putting new emphasis on space since assuming the service's top civilian post in 1993. But her tenure may be remembered most for a controversy over whether to try the first female B-52 bomber pilot for adultery. Widnall allowed Lieutenant Kelly Flinn to leave the service with a general discharge rather than face trial for having an affair with a married man and lying to her superiors about it. Just weeks later, Air Force General Joseph Ralston was forced to withdraw his name from consideration for chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff following disclosure of an adulterous affair in his past. The Air Force also has come under fire for the terrorist bombing of a U.S. military housing complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia last year that killed 19 Americans. The chief of staff of the air force, General Ronald Fogleman, took the unprecedented step of resigning in July because he felt the air force commander at the scene was being unfairly blamed.