--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDC00001 Date: 09/07/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 06:02am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: News-702 Five die in Rhode Island plane crash LINCOLN, R.I. (September 6, 1997 11:39 p.m. EDT) -- A single- engine plane carrying skydivers crashed during takeoff, killing five people and critically injuring one other Saturday. The Cessna Skylane Model 182 reached about 200 feet off the ground before it tilted left about 90 degrees and crashed into trees by the runway, said John Roan, a flight instructor at the North Central State Airport. "The engine was full throttle, then all of a sudden I didn't hear anything. The engine just quit. It died," said Chris Rossi, an airport maintenance worker who saw the crash. Four people were declared dead shortly after the 5 p.m. crash, state police said. Two men in their 20s were flown to Rhode Island Hospital for treatment, hospital spokesman Rick Piester said. A fifth victim died later Saturday at the hospital. The surviv- ing passenger was in critical condition late Saturday. Gas from a ruptured fuel tank leaked from the plane, Roan said. Several firefighters were hurt in two explosions at the scene, but the injuries were not serious. Distraught staff of the Boston-Providence Skydiving Center hug- ged, cried and stared at the fire trucks and ambulances that crowded the runway. One young man who said he knew some of the victims sat on the ground staring numbly at the crash site. "I don't feel like I can talk about it right now," he said. --------------------------------------------------------------- Plane with 10 on board crashes in Malaysia KUALA LUMPUR (September 7, 1997 00:57 a.m. EDT) - A Dornier 228 aircraft with 10 people on board crashed on the Malaysian part of Borneo island on Saturday night, reports said Sunday. It is not known if the eight passengers and two pilots survived the accident, Bernama news agency reported, quoting the Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) officials. Two of the passengers were Japanese, one was a Singaporean and one a Sri Lankan, a Royal Brunei Airlines (RBA) official said. The other six were all Malaysians, including the two pilots. The passengers were not named. A Royal Malaysian Air Force rescue team has been sent on foot into the heavily forested and mountainous area to search for pos- sible survivors, with backup from civilian helicopters. The wreckage of the 19-seat aircraft was spotted by civil avi- ation officials at 7:10 a.m. Sunday at Lambir Hill, near the old town of Miri on the island, in the eastern Sarawak state. The aircraft, flight number BI 238, was flying from the Brunei capital Bandar Seri Begawan to Miri. It belongs to a Miri-based aircraft company, Merpati Intan Sdn, Bhd., and is operated by Royal Brunei Airlines, the agency said. Aviation officials said the aircraft should have arrived in Miri at 7:38 p.m. Saturday. It was last in contact with Miri airport's control tower at 7:44 p.m. -------------------------- Two killed when vintage WWII plane crashes in Michigan RAISINVILLE TOWNSHIP, Mich. (September 6, 1997 9:09 p.m. EDT) -- A vintage World War II plane crashed on the side of a roadway Satur- day morning, killing the pilot and a passenger. State police said the pilot, Paul J. Peters, 57, of Saline, was apparently trying to land the plane on Michigan Highway 50. Wit- nesses told police that smoke was coming from the P-51 Mustang before the crash. Peters and Mary Ann Jones, 35, of Toledo, Ohio, died in the crash. Authorities said the cause of the crash was not immediately known. The plane was flying from Toledo to Ypsilanti's Willow Run Air- port when it crashed at 11:03 a.m., authorities said. ----------------------------------------------------- Cambodians buy back last crash flight recorder PHNOM PENH, Cambodia - 7 September 1997 - Cambodian aviation authorities had to buy back a "black box" flight voice recorder pilfered from the site of a Vietnam Airlines crash in Phnom Penh, an aviation official said on Saturday. The recorder was the last of three flight recorders from the Tupolev Tu-134 that crashed on Wednesday as it was approaching Phnom Penh's Pochentong Airport, killing 64 of the 66 people on board. Two young children survived the crash. "We recovered the third flight recorder from villagers," Keo Sivorn, director of operations at Cambodia's civil aviation authority, told Reuters. "We had to buy it for the analysis, even though the price was high," he said. He declined to say how much was paid for the recorder. Aviation authorities recovered a stand-by flight data recorder soon after the crash but another data recorder and the voice re- corder were looted after hordes of onlookers descended on the crash site. The looted data recorder was recovered in early on Friday and the voice recorder was retrieved late that day. Keo Sivorn said the aircraft's Russian manufacturer was being contacted through the Russian Embassy in Phnom Penh but it had not yet been decided if a Russian expert would come to Cambodia to analyze the recorders or if they would be sent to Russia for analysis. The plane, on a flight from Ho Chi Minh City in southern Viet- nam, was coming in to land at Pochentong airport through heavy rain clouds. Investigators said they suspected the pilot came out of the cloud, realised he was off course and tried unsuccessfully to abort the landing. The aircraft struggled to gain height, smashed through some palm trees and crashed in a muddy rice field. --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDC00002 Date: 09/06/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 12:20pm \/To: RICHARD BRICE (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: reader RICHARD, In a message dated 09-04-97 you wrote ... > OLX is the reader. Why not give "Silly Little Message Reader" a try? Your board probably has it for download. It is very good... I do mine on al old Amiga 500.. about all it is used for and limited to 19,200 baud but GOOD reader. -=* Jim Sanders *=- === * MsgView V1.13 [R028] * Nice guys finish last, but we get to sleep in. --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDC00003 Date: 09/06/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 12:20pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Thanks! Thanks to all for helping me locate Ray Marsh..... He was goofing off and letting someone take care of him... But still alive. :) Jim -=* Jim Sanders *=- === * MsgView V1.13 [R028] * An 8-holer is NOT an outhouse! Doc Meeker --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDD00000 Date: 09/08/97 From: JAY HANIG Time: 05:41pm \/To: JIM SANDERS (Read 0 times) Subj: reader 06 Sep 97 12:20, Jim Sanders wrote to Richard Brice: >> OLX is the reader. JS> Why not give "Silly Little Message Reader" a try? If I remember correctly, the SLMR evolved into OLX. They are the same mail reader, but OLX is the more advanced version. I used OLX with great success when I was starting out in Fido back around 1991. Jay --- GoldED/386 2.50+ * Origin: If It's Not Boeing, I'm Not Going. (1:379/41.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDD00001 Date: 09/07/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 11:13am \/To: CHRISTOPHER TARANA (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: news-693 CHRISTOPHER, In a message dated 09-05-97 you wrote ... > If this is true, then the Navy has been screwing the Air Force > for years. (Sorry Elvis!) The current UGM-109 Tomahawk as fitted to So what else is New!? :) Under the old SIOPs program, SAC had control of all strategic weapons. With a bunch of NON-military running the Defense who know what and who gets the two bucks? I am just old enough to remember the Mitchell court martial... Navy got their kicks there. Andrews was fired because he let the B-17s go too far out to sea... but he got his job back and the more B-17s were built... -=* Jim Sanders *=- ... Radar Navigator. Yes, Ma'am, I can hit the ground with my hat. === * MsgView V1.13 [R028] * --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDD00002 Date: 09/08/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 05:38am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: News-703 New Stealth Takes Flight After more than three months of delays, the F-22 stealth fighter took its first flight Sunday as hundreds of people watched from out- side the Dobbins Air Reserve Base north of Atlanta. Escorted by two F-16 fighters, test pilot Paul Metz put the new advanced tactical fighter through its paces on an hour-long flight in clear skies. The F-22 Raptor was originally scheduled to fly on May 29 but was beset by a fuel leak and faulty auxiliary power unit this summer. It is the slated replacement for the U.S. Air Force's aging fleet of F-15 Eagle fighters. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the F-22 will cost about $100 million per plane, making it one of the cost- liest programs in U.S. history. ------------------------------- Pentagon plans 'smart' substitute for landmines WASHINGTON (September 8, 1997 00:45 a.m. EDT) ---- The Pentagon is looking to develop an alternative to landmines that would use un- manned aircraft piloted by remote control. The drones would hover over a battlefield using cameras and infra-red sensors to detect movement by units on the ground. Once any had been spotted, other drones would carry anti-person- nel bombs to the scene and drop them directly on the troops below. So instead of seeding a large area with mines in advance, a defend- ing force would be able to target its attacks directly on invaders. Research on the drone concept was described as promising by Robert Bell, President Clinton's director for defense and arms con- trol policies on the National Security Council. He said the high- tech idea was expensive but was only one of several options under consideration by Pentagon planners. The U.S. military already has some unmanned drones in operation, though not yet as an alternative to mine-laying. Armed with surveil- lance cameras, they have been used successfully as spotter aircraft in Bosnia and will be in the U.S. Army's experimental Fourth Infan- try Division where units will be linked in a battlefield Internet designed to provide exact information on an enemy's whereabouts. ..... Much unrelated material deleted.......... (Cohen, Bell and most of Clinton's military staff have NO military training OR experience... How can they judge... TV show? Jim) --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1)