--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: ED500009 Date: 09/04/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 02:17am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: News-696 Reuters Hourly News Summary Two Survive Cambodia Crash Two children are the only survivors of the crash of a Vietnam Airlines plane near Phnom Penh in which 64 people were killed, hospital officials said on Thursday. The Tupolev Tu-134, on a flight from Ho Chi Minh City in southern Vietnam, crashed on Wednesday after the pilot had apparently tried to abort the landing at the last minute but failed to regain altitude. The survivors of the crash were an 18-month-old Thai boy and a Vietnamese boy about four years old, hospital officials said. Officials had previously included the Vietnamese boy among the dead but he was subsequently found alive in the hospital. A third child pulled alive from the wreckage died late Wednesday. 01:47 09-04-97 --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: ED500010 Date: 09/04/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 02:52am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: News-697 Oregon lawmakers want to reopen Air Force crash probe WASHINGTON (September 3, 1997 2:51 p.m. EDT) - An Air Force memo disclosing another engine problem with a military cargo plane is prompting calls to reopen an investigation into the C-130 crash that killed 10 airmen from Oregon last November. Sens. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., Gordon Smith, R-Ore., and a lawyer for several widows of the airmen want the Air Force to open the findings of its confidential probe to the National Transportation Safety Board for an independent review. The Air Force, which was unable to determine the cause of the engine failure that led to the crash, earlier rejected the request. The Air Force Reserve HC-130P cargo plane from Portland, Ore., crashed during a training mission about 40 miles off the California coast on Nov. 22, 1996. Ten crew members were killed and one survived. But a newly disclosed memo, dated July 16, about a near-accident over Colorado indicates the C-130s continue to have the kind of en- gine failures that were believed to play a role in the Oregon crew's loss of power. The memo from an Air Force safety officer describes the engine failure shortly after takeoff from Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., in early May. C-130s have "had these roll-backs for many years and modifica- tions have been performed to help alleviate this serious condition," says the memo, a copy of which was obtained by The Associated Press and first reported last week by Willamette Week, a weekly newspaper in Portland. The modifications have not eliminated the problem, the memo said. "The causes of the roll-backs are not completely known," the safety officer wrote. An Air Force official said the Colorado incident had no bearing on the Oregon case. ------------------- Autopsy planned for woman who died on airplane OMAHA, Neb. (September 3, 1997 2:27 p.m. EDT) -- A Continental Airlines flight made an emergency landing Wednesday after a passen- ger was found unconscious in a restroom. Attempts to revive her failed and she was pronounced dead at a hospital. An autopsy was planned on the body of Lila M. Shakerdge, 36, of Tucson, Ariz. She was pronounced dead at St. Joseph's Hospital shortly after the flight landed shortly after 4 a.m., police said. Passengers on Flight 1740 from Las Vegas to Cleveland told officials that the woman appeared to be intoxicated. She apparently went into the restroom and when she didn't come out for an hour, a flight attendant checked and found her unconscious. "She was not breathing, there was no pulse," said Sarah Anthony, a spokeswoman for Continental, which is based in Houston. The crew called Continental's medical service, which advised the quick landing, Ms. Anthony said. The flight, which had about 135 passengers, was resumed after about a two-hour delay. Donald L. Smithey, executive director of the Omaha Airport Authority, said the airport handles more medical emergencies than most, "since we're in the middle of the country and most major airlines fly in here." ----------------------- --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: ED500011 Date: 09/04/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 05:28am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Ray marsh Does anyone in Australia know what happened to Ray Marsh? He said he would be off line for a minor operation and I have not heard from him since. Thanks, -=* Jim Sanders *=- === * MsgView V1.13 [R028] * --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDA00000 Date: 08/31/97 From: PETER KERWIN Time: 12:25pm \/To: JACKSON HARDING (Read 0 times) Subj: Plane crash during air show in Belgium * Jackson Harding mentioned to Luc Henderieckx ... JH> Of interest just looking at the brief footage we got here on the JH> television it looks very much like the pilot was just managing to JH> effect a recovery and ran out of air. Had he been a hundred feet or JH> so higher he may have had just enough time and we'd all be saying JH> "what a great piece of flying". It looked like he was doing a horizontal version of one of those Russian 'falling leaf' manoeuvers that I can neither spell or say, but it starts with L and ends with a C, or in this case, in a First Aid tent :\ Like you say, he did regain full control, but only just before hitting the deck. BTW - Glad to see an Aviation message made it into this packet. I go away for 2 - 3 weeks and suddenly you're all into bombing public buildings and planning secret liasons in Florida. (Does Jo know? :) One good thing from all this - Now we know why we don't subscribe to some of those other echos out there. Pete --- Blue Wave v2.12 * Origin: SA Country Club II BBS (3:800/3) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDA00001 Date: 09/04/97 From: TONY PATON Time: 11:41pm \/To: RICHARD BRICE (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Aviation -=> Quoting Richard Brice to All <=- RB> It seems as though no one wants to enter a message on the Board since RB> the LEWD messages were put on the Board by some Nut. It is like everyone is waiting for the all clear and the fear that the mail packet is going to get full. \ ------------ >-==- TONY PATON / ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Computropolis Interactive Net Server +612-9545-0186 (3:712/407) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDA00002 Date: 09/04/97 From: TONY PATON Time: 11:41pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Yeager Back to aviation: Are there any plans for the 50th aniversary of Mach 1 and Chuck? \ ------------ >-==- TONY PATON / ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Computropolis Interactive Net Server +612-9545-0186 (3:712/407) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDA00003 Date: 09/04/97 From: JIM DAWSON Time: 04:15pm \/To: ELVIS HARGROVE (Read 0 times) Subj: MY SIS Emerson Electric in quality control. Interesting pieces in local papers about social unpleasantness across the river from you every few days. Piece on local TV about travelers crossing the border who need swimming lessons. I was out to BJC this afternoon and saw a very sleek single engine that I wasn't familiar with and found out it is a German Grob G115C. Look somewhat like the old Meyers 200. Heavy wx with tops of 50K and hail around here again. Most every afternoon. Continental's new flat 4 diesel for aircraft will be 2 cycle, supercharged of about 286 CID and deliver 200 HP. Single level power control> Just as a guess, I would see a turbocharger feeding a Rootes-type blower and a narrow operating RPM band. It will be designed for longer TBO and cost half the price of current 200 HP gas engines (????) I hope they include glow plugs, big water drains and monster air filters, dual vacumn pumps and maybe a compressionrelease for easier starting. I would guess a fuel efficiency rating of about .45 of fuel per hP/hour. The last thing I would want to see included is big fat soft rubber engine mounts, otherwise it will shake the rivets loose. JD --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: The Grotto - Arvada, CO (303) 421-7186 V.32bis (1:104/251) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EDA00004 Date: 09/04/97 From: RICHARD BRICE Time: 08:23pm \/To: SYSOP (Read 0 times) Subj: Reader OLX is the reader. Richard --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: The Grotto - Arvada, CO (303) 421-7186 V.32bis (1:104/251)