--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: ECG00003 Date: 08/08/97 From: JOE NORRIS Time: 08:50pm \/To: JAY HANIG (Read 0 times) Subj: AIRCRAFT CARRIERS CIRCA -=> Quoting Jay Hanig to Jim Dawson <=- JH> I thought they used highly modified T-6s for that JH> movie. Hi Jay, They used T-6s to replicate the Zeros. They used BT-13s to stand in for some of the dive and torpedo bombers. Joe Norris -=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- SLMAIL v4.5a (#4185) * Origin: Rapid River BBS 715-435-3855 (1:238/350) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: ECG00004 Date: 08/06/97 From: JOE NORRIS Time: 05:17pm \/To: CHRISTOPHER TARANA (Read 0 times) Subj: Vought Birds Hi Christopher, -=> Quoting Christopher Tarana to Joe Norris <=- CT> Joe, you are absolutely right. The F-7U was the CT> Cutlass, the F-8 was the Crusader. The Cutlass was certainly an interesting bird, wasn't it. And as for the Crusader, we can't forget the F-8s history of flying with it's wings folded. Joe ... One way or another, all flying is "attitude" flying! -=- Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- SLMAIL v4.5a (#4185) * Origin: Rapid River BBS 715-435-3855 (1:238/350) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: ECG00005 Date: 08/09/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 08:07pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: B-29 combat trivia B-29 COMBAT MILESTONES First Combat Mission: June 5, 1944, against railyards, Bangkok, Thailand. Mission originated in India. First Combat Mission against Japan: June 15, 1944, against steelworks, Yawata. Mission originated in China. Longest Single-Stage Combat Mission: August 10, 1944, from China Bay, Ceylon. to Palenbang, Sumatra (3900 miles) First Comhat Mission from the Marianas: October 28,1944, against submarine pens at Dublon Island. First Combat Mission against Japan from the Marianas: Novemher 24, 1944. against Tokyo. Largest Number of B-29s Launched on a single Day: August 1, 1944, 836 launched, 684 reached thelr targets. Last B-29 Combat Mission of WWII: August 14, 1944 (741 launched). B-29 MILITARY SPECIFICATIONS Maximum Speed 310 mph (at 25,000 ft.) Cruising Speed ------- 220 mph Service Ceiling --------- 33,000 ft. Gross Weight (military load) 147,000 Ibs. Wing Span---------------------- 141 ft. Fuselage Length ---------------- 99 ft. Range-------------3,700-4,500 miles (depending on fuel and bomb load) Standard Armament--- 12 - 50 caliber machine guns Bomb Load --------- 20,000 lbs. Fuel Capacity Wing Tanks --- 5,828 gals. Center Tank -----------------1,120 gals. Oil Capacity (each engine) - 85 gals. Engines -----4 Wright Cyclone 18-cylinder R-3350 2,200 HP each Contact! McClelland Aviation Museum Foundation Newsletter --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: ECG00006 Date: 08/09/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 04:09am \/To: JAY HANIG (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: news-651 JAY, In a message dated 08-07-97 you wrote ... > The article didn't say whether alcohol was involved, but the mitigating > factor hasn't been invented that would forgive their actions. I hope > they get life, and their case is widely publicized for the next moron > who thinks it might be fun to show his ass on a flight. > > There is no excuse for their behavior. None. A later item said they were pleading NOT GUILTY... I will report IF we get any results of the trial... -=* Jim Sanders *=- === * MsgView V1.13 [R028] * An escort of P-38s... Bomber heaven. --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: ECG00007 Date: 08/09/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 03:22pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: News-660 Miami Crash Death Toll Rises The death count in the crash of a cargo jet near Miami Inter- national Airport rose to at least five yesterday when investigators combing the charred wreckage found two more bodies. At least one of the victims was found in a car beneath the remains of the jet. Police said two people had been reported missing since the Fine Air Services DC-8-61F aircraft slammed through a busy commercial district at lunchtime Thursday. All four members of the cargo jet's crew were believed to have perished in the disaster. ---------------------------------------------------- DALLAS -- For the second time in as many months, AMR Corp. has reached a tentative agreement with the union representing pilots at its regional airline, American Eagle. The Air Line Pilots Association will send ballots to the 1,900 regional pilots to vote on the agreement next week. The results are scheduled to be counted next Friday. In July, negotiators reached an accord, but it was rejected by the pilots on a 642-505 vote. The agreement reached Friday offers improved wage increases for first officers, guarantees an annual pay raise for all pilots, and grants pilots more time to reach the airport when called out to a flight. Pilots now earn about $35,000 on average. The agreement would replace four separate contracts with Eagle affiliates with a single accord, merging seniority lists and allowing pilots to bid on flying across the system. The affiliates are Simmons Airlines of Fort Worth, Texas; Executive Airlines of San Juan, Puerto Rico; Flagship Airlines of Nashville, Tenn., and Wings West Airlines of San Luis Obispo, Calif. Knoxville News Sentinel 9 Aug 1997 ---------------------------------- Portuguese airline pilots strike, flights cancelled LISBON (August 9, 1997 12:16 p.m. EDT) --- In a bitter dispute over working hours, state-owned airline TAP-Air Portugal's pilots went back on strike on Saturday forcing three flights to be cancelled. While local media speculated that Prime Minister Antonio Guterres might order the pilots back to work, Guterres held an extraordinary cabinet meeting to discuss the strike. The pilots decided on Thursday night to resume an indefinite strike, and were refusing to operate flights laid on at short notice, a TAP spokesman said. The government has warned that the dispute during the peak summer holiday season could lead the flagship carrier into bankrupcy. Public Works Minister Joao Cravinho, who is directly responsible for TAP, cancelled his holidays in Brazil on Friday and returned home to seek a solution to the dispute. He met TAP chairman Manuel Ferreira Lima, but made no statement before heading for the cabinet meeting. Return flights between Oporto and Frankfurt and between Lisbon and Madrid were cancelled on Saturday, along with a flight from the island of Madeira to Lisbon, cancelled on Friday before the strike began formally at midnight. TAP spokesman Raul Alves Fernandes said alternatives had been found for all the passengers. The pilots say TAP employs too few of them, and that adminis- trative staff often tell them at the last minute to change their work schedules, forcing them to fly flights after inadequate rest and jeopardising safety. The government says it is doing all it can to satisfy the pilots' demands by pressing ahead with plans to invest 800 million escudos ($4.2 million) to upgrade the computer system which works out flight and work schedules. The standoff has badly affected morale inside the airline, where ground staff have accused the pilots of putting the jobs of the air- line's 7,500 employees at risk. Both TAP's management and the Civil Aviation Pilots' Union (SPAC), which represents all of TAP's 430 pilots, say they are willing to continue talks.