--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBY00017 Date: 07/27/97 From: JIM SANDERS Time: 08:24pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: News-633 World War II bomb defused in Tokyo suburb TOKYO (July 27, 1997 1:04 p.m. EDT) -- After moving more than 6,000 people to safety, Japanese military experts on Sunday defused a 1-ton bomb believed to have been dropped by a U.S. plane during World War II. The bomb was the second in a month found at a suburban Tokyo site, once the location of a factory that built engines for Japanese fighter planes, said Yuji Harasawa, an official of the Musashino city government. The plant was a frequent U.S. bombing target during the war, Harasawa said. The latest bomb, 6 feet long and 2 feet wide, was discovered July 8 by construction workers. It took about two hours to defuse, Harasawa said. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Floyd Bennett, b. near Warrensburg, N.Y., Oct. 25, 1890, d. Apr. 25, 1928, was an aviator for two of the Arctic expeditions of the 1920s and the first pilot to fly over the North Pole. He was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor for his achievements. Bennett was an aviator and mechanic for the 1925 MacMillan expe- dition to the Arctic; and in 1926, with the explorer Richard E. Byrd in his crew as navigator, he piloted a plane nonstop from Spits- bergen to the North Pole and back. On a flight to rescue stranded flyers in the Gulf of St. Lawrence, he was stricken with pneumonia and died in Quebec. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Richard Evelyn Byrd, b. Winchester, Va., Oct. 25, 1888, d. Mar. 11, 1957, was an aviator, Antarctic explorer, and author. He attended the U.S. Naval Academy and later became an aviator. In 1925 he commanded a naval flying unit on the MacMillan expedition to the Arctic, and on May 9, 1926, he and Floyd Bennett flew over the North Pole, for which Byrd was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. With backing from private donors, Byrd organized (1928) an expedition to Antarctica, establishing a base called Little America on the Ross Ice Shelf near Roosevelt Island. With three companions, he flew (1929) to the South Pole and back. On his return to the United States he was given a hero's welcome and promoted to the rank of rear admiral. Byrd led further Antarctic expeditions in 1933-35, 1939-41, 1946-47, and 1955-56. In 1934 he spent five months by himself near the South Pole, an experience described in his book, Alone (1938). Bibliography: Gladych, Martin, Admiral Byrd of Antarctica (1960); Hoyt, E. P., The Last Explorer (1968); Montague, Richard, Oceans, Poles and Airmen (1971). ------------------------------------------------------------------ The American civil engineer Octave Chanute, b. Feb. 18, 1832, d. Nov. 23, 1910, is best known for the support and encouragement he gave the Wright brothers. Chanute designed bridges, supervised railroad tracklaying, and was chief engineer of several railroads, including the Erie Railroad. Chanute first became interested in aviation in about 1875. In 1894 he published a group of papers on flight under the title "Progress in Flying Machines." This brilliant treatise combined aeronautical theory with aviation history. Chanute maintained an active correspondence with virtually all the important figures in world aviation, including Otto Lilienthal and the Wright brothers. In 1896 he began experimenting with gliders and, in collaboration with Augustus M. Herring, developed an advanced glider that was the safest and most stable of its time. Richard P. Hallion ------------------------------------------------------------------ --- DB 1.39/004487 * Origin: Volunteer BBS (423) 694-0791 V34+/VFC (1:218/1001.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBY00018 Date: 07/27/97 From: JAY HANIG Time: 09:24pm \/To: GRAHAM DRUMMOND (Read 0 times) Subj: Aircraft Carriers Circa 17 Jul 97 17:47, Graham Drummond wrote to Christopher Tarana: GD> The Skyhawk was introduced around the same time as the Phantom, GD> or earlier, but another ground attack aircraft (enormous radial GD> piston engine) was flown before then. I forget its name but they GD> were used very successfully for close support during the Vietnam GD> War. (Skyraider perhaps?) The AE-1 Skyraider...aka Sandy: a very successful ground attack aircraft used extensively during the Viet Nam war. It was reportedly extremely tough and could loiter around a site for hours. It also carried an ungodly amound of ordnance. Jay --- GoldED/386 2.50+ * Origin: If It's Not Boeing, I'm Not Going. (1:379/41.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBY00019 Date: 07/28/97 From: KEN NOTT Time: 04:40pm \/To: JIM SANDERS (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: landing the gooney Hi Jim: => => In a message dated 07-16-97 you wrote ... => => > There's some real experience listed above, Jim! I recall meeting => > 2 gentlemen at the Dayton airshow some years ago; Each pilot had => > more than 10,000 hours in Gooney Birds! => > => > That's a lot of time on type. => => I remember asking Freddy Raynham how much time he had logged. => He said they did not keep log books for the first 12 years of => his career and after he started, he logged about 30,000 hours... => Many people have exceeded that. I seem to recall that, at one time, the world's most senior pilot was a Polish Captain. => Your received the snapshot of him? => Sure did thanks. It would be a real education in itself to talk to some of those gentlemen with 30,000+ hours; each has a vast amount of experience that we all could learn from. Ken >> 1-12-5-16-9-2-13-6-17-10-3-14-7-18-11-4-15-8 << --- PBNet v1.91 #5 * Origin: T.A.S. Online Services 905-686-4361 (1:229/126) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBY00020 Date: 07/28/97 From: KEN NOTT Time: 04:43pm \/To: JIM SANDERS (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: record number of pilo Hi Jim: => > If the rest of the family had accumulated flying hours like Merle => > did, it would be a record! => => How would I find if the 10 in one family is a record? => Guiness? => I do not think that such a category is part of the Guiness data base; at least, I do not recall reading that entry. I shall check my copy of World and U.S. Aviation and Space Records Journal and see what I can find. => BTW: Yesterday (18th) was the 53rd anniversary of my demise => at Memmnigen, Germany in 1944. :( => You demise? I, for one, am happy you are still around. :-) Did your snail mail arrive yet? It must be sitting in a warehouse someplace. :-( Ken >> 1-12-5-16-9-2-13-6-17-10-3-14-7-18-11-4-15-8 << --- PBNet v1.91 #5 * Origin: T.A.S. Online Services 905-686-4361 (1:229/126) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBY00021 Date: 07/28/97 From: CHARLES MIELKE Time: 11:13am \/To: MARK FOSTER (Read 0 times) Subj: Due Regard? MF> Yeah, ... Ohhhhhhhh okay I think it was in a Dale Brown MF> novel.. ... hmmmmm I *think* (and dont quote me) that the pilot of an MF> F-111 says that *SHE* is 'due regard' when the controller tells her MF> about a danger zone shes approaching or something.. that sound close? Sounds logical - but I've never heard the term used during my 5000 hours of military flying. That's not to say that it wasn't used, just that I never heard it used. Funny thing - you're familiar with the terms "Roger" and "Wilco"? We were taught that "Roger" simply means something like, "Yeah, Center, I heard you" And "Wilco" is short for Will Comply. Remember Andy Griffith commenting about that fellow, "Roger Wilco"? To my surprise, after graduating from Aviation Cadets in 1955, I never heard the term "Wilco" used. Everyone just replied, "Roger" when given an instruction by some controlling agency. I used to use the term, and always felt kinda "corny" when I did so, and I always expected some of my fellow pilots to give me a hard time about it, but they never did. Pilots like to be individualists, and do their own thing. We used to have one that always said, "Roger that". It drove our Commander nuts, and he finally clamped down on that usage. MF> I wish I could remember! MF> MF>And as curiousity, can anyone tell me what MARSA is? (I know, just MF> MF>curious to know if it really exists) MF> CM> Yes, it does exist. It means Military Assumption of MF> CM> Responsibility for Separation of Aircraft. MF> I was right! Heheheh its one of those terms you dont hear around New MF> Zealand that often... MF> CM> One of the times it would be used (there may be more), is MF> CM> when the FAA/ARTCC turns over a whole Warning area to the MF> CM> military. These Warning Areas are normally "owned" by the MF> CM> FAA/ARTCC. When they release the airspace to the military, MF> CM> they route the aircraft under their control away from the MF> CM> airspace. MF> Hmmmmm.. true. I would say that MARSA proceedures would be in effect MF> any time a flight forms up in close formation... 'merging plots' would MF> require MARSA, am I right? I'm not familiar with the 'merging plots'. I think you have the right idea. A flight of 4 in formation would be responsible for their own separation, but they might also be under ARTCC control. We used to do Air-to-Air refueling, and our GCI site would handle the join ups with the tanker. Center would turn over a block of airspace, and a working area, to the GCI site. The Letters of Agreement between GCI and ARTCC would contain the acronym 'MARSA'; but I don't ever recall hearing the term used, verbally, in the pilot-to-ground communications. GCI had the responsibility for keeping us in the working area, and the pilots had the responsibility for staying within the assigned altitude block. .. --- * SLMR 2.1a * Support the right to tear unborn babies limb from limb. --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Looking Glass * Greer, SC * (864) 848-1961 * (1:3639/2.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBZ00000 Date: 07/26/97 From: DAVE BARRON Time: 01:57pm \/To: MARK FOSTER (Read 0 times) Subj: Black Box to Cops? Hi Mark, MF>Recently a court in New Zealand decreed that the Black Box Recording of MF>a domestic crash a couple of years ago be given over to the police for MF>Some domestic pilots in NZ have elected to disable them during flight as MF>its not actually compulsary for domestic flights... Oooer! IMO, the police should *immediately* assure the civil airlines that they will *only* request future access where loss of life has occurred. The alternative would be to introduce legislation which would waste time, cost money to enforce, cause crew resentment and may be disregarded in any case. Effectively gagging criticisms between the P1 and P2 could further lead to bad habits not being corrected. That's just my view, but it's the opinions of those who sit at the pointy end that really count. ;-) ps. Note for Richard Brice... No wrong posts on the UK feed. HTH Dave --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Ooh! MultiLine BBS, London. 0181-395-3108 (2:254/233)