--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBE00011 Date: 07/09/97 From: RICHARD BRICE Time: 08:40am \/To: JIM DAWSON (Read 0 times) Subj: CRASH REPORT No, I think it was a line aircraft. I don't remember the white DC-7, I do remember the white DC-8, which I was never involved with. --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: The Grotto - Arvada, CO (303) 421-7186 V.32bis (1:104/251) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBE00012 Date: 07/09/97 From: RICHARD BRICE Time: 08:45am \/To: JIM COLE (Read 0 times) Subj: WINDMILL STARTS Back in the DC-4 days, maybe also on the DC-6/7, windmill starts were made on occasion in a remote spot where parts were scarse. Not with passengers on board, only the crew. Then taxi back and load the passengers with the engine in idle. AAL tried to make a three engine takeoff here at Denver one time in a B-707 and they ended up off the runway. They gave power to the three engines rather than symetrical power until after VMC. If I recall it was a Management Crew. --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: The Grotto - Arvada, CO (303) 421-7186 V.32bis (1:104/251) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBE00013 Date: 07/09/97 From: ROBERT LINENWEBER Time: 07:05am \/To: JIM SANDERS (Read 0 times) Subj: Oftin Spheled Rong In a message to Jim Cole <07-06-97 05:07> Jim Sanders wrote: JS> Fourth. Luckily the hanger roof landed short of the a/c. But the "Hangar" Jim, hangar. That and "ensure" with an e (often seen as insure) are moving into the top two misspelled words now that spell checkers are used. Those two don't get caught because they mean other things. Best regards, .. Bob . ... Can I blame my spelling on Line Noise? --- QuickBBS 2.81 Ovr * Origin: FAA ASO-FSDO-15 BBS / Orlando, Florida (1:363/275) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBE00014 Date: 07/08/97 From: SAMMY FINKELMAN Time: 11:09pm \/To: JIM COLE (Read 0 times) Subj: Aviation Enthusiast Corn JC> http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/air.html SF> What does the aeroweb hre stand for, and what is the connection to SF> CUNY (Cuty University of New York) JC> Sammy, I don't know what the term that you use aeroweb hre JC> stand for nor the connection to CUNY. I thought you might know from what the site said. JC> It just seems that certain sites are repositorys of certain JC> information. This ought to be true. JC> For instance Ham Radio data bases are most complete at University JC> of Arkansas Little Rock UALR. So go figure. Did you get into the JC> site above? No, I don't have access to the world wide web. JC> Am running into some great Aviation Sites and will try to post them JC> for information when I run across them....Jim.... Good. I and others ought to save them. --- PCBoard (R) v15.3/M 10 * Origin: MoonDog BBS RIME NetHub Brooklyn,NY (1:278/15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBE00015 Date: 07/08/97 From: NAT POTTER Time: 01:08pm \/To: MARK FOSTER (Read 0 times) Subj: Greetings. MF>MSGID: 3:772/210 31fed347 MF>PID: CDRMAIL v1.13FXU MF> <- Nat Potter talked to Mark Foster, and Look What Happened! -> MF> MF>I'll not butt in coz i'm probably way out of my depth when it MF> MF>comes to aviation, but I look forward to some interesting MF>reading ;) NP> Mr. Foster, welcome to the aviation echo (I'm not MF> NP> hoggin you job Mr. Hargrove)!!!!! MF> hehehehe nah, the more welcomes the better ;) MF> NP> Is it winter there now?????? Are you related to that High MF> NP> Flying Foster's ale????? MF> Yep, we're just moving back into the spring period, but got at MF>least a month or two of winter weather left... MF> NP> Welcome......if I may?????? *:-<) MF> You may... MF> NP> KASIYH & HAGDW!!!! Bro Nap *:-<) MF> Huh???? It just means keep a song in your heart & have a great dry week/end??? From the floods in Houston, TX in 1994!! I notice that your organization is related to military aviation? RAAF??? *:-<) and... KASIYH & HAGDW!!!! Bro Nap * CMPQwk 1.42 1395 *The truth is more important than the facts. --- QScan/PCB v1.16b / 01-0075 * Origin: PSL Online Houston, TX 713-442-6704 @psl-online.com (1:106/6256) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBE00016 Date: 07/09/97 From: MARK FOSTER Time: 11:24pm \/To: JIM COLE (Read 0 times) Subj: Greetings Yoreself Mark <- Jim Cole talked to Mark Foster, and Look What Happened! -> MF> You're certainly the first. Thank you Jim ;) MF> ... I'll definately enjoy it. MF> Umm... Aviation in New Zealand? MF> Well... Civilian-wise its quite popular.. I work with two pilots, MF>one RNZAF-selectee, and know a few more ;) Umm, what else is there MF>to know??? I dont know how big civil aviation is in the U.S.... JC> Of course it's very big here in the US and very expensive but I JC> probably don't have to tell you about that. I imagine yours is quite JC> pricy also. What kind of civilian trainers are they using there? Do JC> you see any warbirds flying around? Yep, theres a few of them around. Warbirds Aero Club is based not far from my place. One of the pilots from my work is the Newhew of Alan Wallace - heard of him? Hes famous all over the country as a bit of a flying wizz. Recently had an accident down at Wanaka flying a genuine Spitfire Mk14(?) - clipped the ground on a low pass. Made it out by pure fluke. MF> Militarily, we fly the A-4K Skyhawk (original airframes with MF>avionics up to F-16A+ standard), the Aermacchi somethingorotehr( MF> cant remember offhand), the P-3K Orion (equiv to the C variant), the MF> C-130 Herculese, and a coupla old Andovers... MF> Oh, and a 727 for VIP work, and a squadron of UH-1 Iroquois float MF> around the place :) MF> And that about tops my limit ;) Unless I go even MORE military.... JC> That's great and thanks for the information. See what you can dig up JC> to tell us about light plane flying there. I'll see wha I can dig out of some friends ;) <---------------- Mark Foster, SysOp Sidewinder BBS ---------------> | blakjak@ihug.co.nz - 3:772/210 @ fidonet.org | < Callsign ZL1VMF - "Prepare for War - Strive for Peace" > ... Law of Combat: All weather close air support doesn't work in bad weath ~~~ ReneWave v1.01 [NR] --- Squish/386 v1.11 * Origin: Sidewinder! Your Military Info BBS. 649-267-3546 (3:772/210) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBE00017 Date: 07/09/97 From: MARK FOSTER Time: 11:24pm \/To: JIM DAWSON (Read 0 times) Subj: GREETINGS. Hi Jim ;) <- Jim Dawson talked to Mark Foster, and Look What Happened! -> JD> North of here at Grey Bull, Wyoming, is an outfit that fights forest JD> fires with old and aging aircraft. The company is known as Hawkins & JD> Powers Aviation and they use many round engine birds inlcuding C-97s, JD> C-119s (they have more than a dozen ex-Canadian AF C-119Gs), a C-82, JD> P2V-7s, DC-6s (C-118) and a B-26. On the turbine side, they have an Sheesh, ya are getting old There. Isnt B-26 the classic Nuke-Dropper? JD> ex-USN EP-3 and an ex-Spanish Navy P-3 along with several ex-USAF *E* P3's? Not the ELINT versions??? JD> C-130A & Bs. At one time they had more than a dozen ex-Canadian JD> Lockheed PVs. Very interesting place to visit. It is about 400 miles JD> from me and about 3 years ago, I foto'd them all. Oh okay ;) Ive got pics of alot of the RNZAF aircraft floating around. We have had the Skyhawks as fighters for years now - theyre still going strong. We've got about a half-dozen P-3K's for Maritime Survailence - NZ has a very large EEZ to patrol, and we have responsibilty over Tokaleu, Niue and the Cook Islands militarily. Nothing in the way of the older stuff has flown in a while - except perhaps the Andovers. Most of those were sold to a civilian buyer just recently, I heard. <---------------- Mark Foster, SysOp Sidewinder BBS ---------------> | blakjak@ihug.co.nz - 3:772/210 @ fidonet.org | < Callsign ZL1VMF - "Prepare for War - Strive for Peace" > ... Pioneers: The ones with the arrows sticking in them. ~~~ ReneWave v1.01 [NR] --- Squish/386 v1.11 * Origin: Sidewinder! Your Military Info BBS. 649-267-3546 (3:772/210) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EBF00000 Date: 07/09/97 From: JIM DAWSON Time: 10:00pm \/To: JIM SANDERS (Read 0 times) Subj: RE: COMMENTS I learned a lot baout the '17 that was new. And today while ooling around on the internet, I found WWW.Avnet.com that had a story from 1944 covering a B-17 of the 8th that was hit in the horizontal stabilizer by another plane of their group. The plane that was hit did a loop and ended in a spin. Crew recovered and made a successful landing. Pilot got DFC. The theme was above all else, fly the plane. --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: The Grotto - Arvada, CO (303) 421-7186 V.32bis (1:104/251)