----------------------------------------------------------------- AR-1 - Yeh.............................................. SR-2 - Fifty six Lima wants to come in and land at ...Ah..Stapleton.. .. He's with the Arapahoe departure..picked up to much ice .. he was heading for someplace in Texas...................... AR-1 - Alright ..clear him to Kiowa.. clear him to Kiowa at one one thousand and put him on my frequency...................... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: Kiowa is the most severe icing area. Other flights have been telling Approach Control about it but the Pilot Reports never got into the Loop. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ SR-2 - Alright ..Kiowa at one one................................... AR-1 - C-6 ........................................................ SR-2 - Five six Lima proceed direct to the Kiowa VOR.. Clear to the Kiowa VOR.. maintain one one thousand .. contact Denver Approach Control .. one two zero point eight.. they'll have further clearance for you.......................................... N456 Lima - Direct Kiowa two zero point eight........................ AR-1 - Frontier forty five turn right heading zero three zero..... FAL-45 - Zero three zero...... forty five...................... AR-1 - Frontier two fifty six.. turn right heading zero eight zero.. FAL-256 - Two fifty six...zero eight zero........................... Cal-300 - Denver Approach..Contintental three hundred on the profile with BRAVO.............................................. AR-1 - Continental three hundred thank you..CHARLIE is current.. let me know when you have it..Altimeter two niner eight two...... CAL-300 - Okay.. I'll give you a holler............................ AR-1 Alright.................................................. AR-1 - Stapleton weather indefinite ceiling.. five hundred..sky obscured..visibility..ah..one mile..RVR is ..ah..touch down five thousand ..mid field..four thousand .. roll out five thousand five hundred..................................... AR-1 - Frontier forty five contact Denver..one two five point three. tell them your heading..................................... FAL -45 - Alright.............................................. N456 Lima - Hello Colorado Springs..King Air 456..or..Ah Denver .. four five six Lima.................................. AR-1 - Four five six Lima flying heading zero three zero vector sequencing for runway two six left.. lbe vectors for ILS runway two six left at Stapleton.................................... N456 Lima - Okay..What's the weather at Colorado Springs................ AR-1 - WELL.. (very long sigh).. I'll get it when I get a chance Sir.. Denver altimeter is two niner eight two....................... --------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: InterCom line open to Colorado Springs all the time ------------------------------------------------------------------- N456 Lima - (garbled)............................................. AR-1 - Frontier two fifty six .. the speed will be one six zero knots for the runway heading....................................... FAL-256 - Roger..we read............................................. AR-1 - Braniff three twenty five reduce speed now.. to..two zero zero knots....................................................... BNF-325 - Slowing to two hundred ..Braniff three twenty five.......... AR-1 - Roger..Continental three hundred maintain one two thousand on the profile........................................................ Intercom - CArl.................................................... CAL-300 - One Two thousand......................................... ATC-2 (Carl). Yea............................................... 30-MA - Ten northwest at eleven thousand for Arapahoe also...... -------------------------------------------------------------- Note: this Mitsubushi intended to land at Arapahoe but missed and went to Stapleton -------------------------------------------------------------------- ATC-2 - Alright..three zero Mike Alpha .. and ..Ah................. (Carl) 30-MA - I'll just go around the westr side to the left............... ATC-2 - Alright.................................................... (Carl) ? - Going to one............................................. ATC-2 - Alright..................................................... (Carl) AR-1 - Frontier two fifty six fly heading zero eight five.. contact Denver..one two five point three with this speed............... FAL-256 - Roger.................................................... 25-Zulu - Approach Control.. this is..(garbled) two five ZULU..... AR-1 - Two five ZULU take vectors ILS three four right approach to Arapahoe..I'll get weather in a few miles or you can tell me you have the ATIS.. the Denver alatimeter is two niner eight two. 25-ZULU - I'll get it.............................................. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Note: the next Transmission will be where AR-1 finally requests the WX from Colorado Springs. --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- End of PART V --- OLX 2.1 TD Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic --- FLAME v1.1 * Origin: The Grotto - Arvada, CO (303) 421-7186 V.32bis (1:104/251) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 196 AVIATION Ref: EAQ00001 Date: 06/20/97 From: ROBERT LINENWEBER Time: 08:20pm \/To: JAY HANIG (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Accidental Spin In a message to Robert Linenweber <06-15-97 16:24> Jay Hanig wrote: JH> sideways. Learned a lot from him though....enough so that I credit JH> him with saving my life when I crashed that Lance....it was like he JH> was right there with me, telling me (at high volume) what to do. You have peaked my curiosity. What happened and what did you hear from your memory that helped? I was touched the other day by a story my airplane student told me. I have been trying to convince him that a full stall landing is the way to go. He can't bring himself to believe that the airplane shouldn't be driven onto the runway (usually crooked). At any rate, he was aboard a 747-400 on an international flight. The Captain invited him into the cockpit when they were on the ground. At one point my student asked the Captain if he held the 747 off until it stalled onto the runway. The Captain explained the difference in landing techniques between a 747 and a Cessna 150. My student said "my instructor always tells me to hold it off." The 747 Captain told him it had been a lot of years since he first soloed but to this day he could still hear his instructor saying "hold it off, hold it off" every time he landed. Best regards, .... Bob Linenweber ... There is safety in numbers - Participate in the "Wings" Program! --- QuickBBS 2.81 Ovr * Origin: FAA ASO-FSDO-15 BBS / Orlando, Florida (1:363/275)