--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: F1I00004 Date: 01/13/98 From: BRIAN SHEPERD Time: 08:26am \/To: ALAN FRAYER (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Rprinter and win95 -=> Quoting Alan Frayer to Brian Sheperd <=- Hello Alan, AF> RPRINTER is not supported in Win95. The suggestion in the early days AF> was to use Microsoft's File and Print Services to print, meaning you'd AF> have Novell's client for working with the server, and Microsoft's AF> client for peer-to-peer communication to handle printing. This is how we have it set up now. It doesn't appear to be 100%, but that could be the way that we set it up. AF> With the release of Client32, you now have the ability to use AF> NPRINTER, and you can configure NPRINTER to look at NetWare 3.12 print AF> queues as well as NetWare 4.x print queues. When installing NPRINTER, AF> configure it to support bindery services. I asked our company admin. about this, but he didn't want to go to the client32. The only reason that he gave was that he didn't want to add another variable. Is client32 difficult to install/manage? AF> I think you can get a copy of NPRINTER and Client32 from the Novell AF> web site. I'll check it out. Thanks, Brian ... I love standards, there are so many of them! --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Strange Days412-271-0980 (1:129/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: F1I00005 Date: 01/13/98 From: BRIAN SHEPERD Time: 08:58am \/To: ROELOF HEUVEL (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Rprinter and Win95 -=> Quoting Roelof Heuvel to Brian Sheperd <=- Hello Roelof, RH> When you use Novellos Client32 for W95, you can use the Nprinter for RH> windows95, that is downloadable from the internet (NPTR95.EXE or so), RH> and on all thios NW4.11 or intranetware CDos... I asked the company admin., but he said that he didn't want to install client32 because it would be adding another variable. We installed the win95 printer agent, but it doesn't appear to perfect. However, we can print now. Is client32 with nprinter difficult to set up? RH> That only works more or less with thge microsoft client for netware, RH> and you need to configure a printserver with pconsole for every RH> printer you want to use via this method. On your w95 CD in the admin RH> subdir, there is a oserviceo you need to install, that acts as a RH> printserver on the w95 machine for one printer. It works most of the RH> time, but locksup the machine too, sometimes... Please bear with me. I'm the supervisor for our server, but they never gave me ANY training even though that I requested it. I don't know if this makes a difference, but .... We have 2 servers. The main server is a 50 user, and my server is a 10 user. For my users, we actually log into both machines (first the main one, and then ours). The rprinter machine is on my server and it is used as a workstation. I have to install win95 on it so that the user can use the upgraded software. How do you use pconsole on that machine? On my server monitor, it shows the inkjet as "Not connected", but it does print through his machine. RH> Did you specify on your remote printer client machine from what RH> printserver to get the data ? Noteh that the nmicrosoft software for RH> this is very primitive. The Novell Nprinter way works much beter, but RH> requires the Novell Client32. Together that is many megabytes of RH> software to download... No, I didn't specify. How do you perform this task? I agree about the win95 approach; however, it just could be my lack of knowledge for setting it up. Thanks, Brian ... Press all the keys at once to continue... --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Strange Days412-271-0980 (1:129/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: F1I00006 Date: 01/13/98 From: BRIAN SHEPERD Time: 09:01am \/To: DAVE BEDWIN (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Rprinter and Win95 -=> Quoting Dave Bedwin to Brian Sheperd <=- DB> i think i saw something saying that you need to be running the DB> novell32 bit client, not the microsoft one? Hello Dave, Well, I'm between a rock and a hard place. The company admin. doesn't want to go to the client32 because it will add another variable. Is the microsoft one not compatible, or not recommended? Thanks, Brian ... I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Strange Days412-271-0980 (1:129/278) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: F1I00007 Date: 01/13/98 From: NEIL PRICE Time: 11:49am \/To: BRIAN SHEPERD (Read 3 times) Subj: Rprinter and Win95 In a msg on , Brian Sheperd of 1:129/278 writes: BS> Now, with win95, it states that rprinter is no longer supported. BS> However, a FAQ sheet said to use the printer agent that is on the BS> windows 95 cd. I installed this as it mentioned, but nothing prints. The MS supplied agent does not work. Another red herring from Murkysoft. You must install Novell client32 and nprinter95. Nprinter95 is said to be for 4.1x but it works fine with 3.1x If your plotter can handle it, I'd recommend a Jetdirect card or similar. You will get better speed and reliability. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: The point of know return, Cape Town, RSA. (5:7102/111.5) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: F1J00000 Date: 01/15/98 From: GARY FIRTH Time: 12:03am \/To: JAY DICKINSON (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Server Problems... On 06 Jan 98 19:01:00, Jay Dickinson said the following to Dave Bedwin: JD> DB> the only one i have seen is fat entry not properly zero padded DB> and this is when you put the new os2.nam on a dos volume to give long DB> name space support and there are files there allready. novell says to DB> remove all files then put name space on then put files back. other wise DB> running vrepair junks the drive. JD> JD> You might have something there. At one time I did try to add os2 long ame JD> support. It didn't work, I aborted the process and it has never been the sa JD> since. Honestly I had forgotten that I had tried that. Perhaps a format of JD> drive again *is* in my future..... I thought that removing the support with JD> vrepair did away with it. Perhaps not. It would however, explain a lot! That sounds like a good warning to me, also :-) I have had OS2.NAM installed on my drives for several months now (installed after files existed on the drives) and have never had to run Vrepair... I must remember to never run it... Cheers from down under Gary --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: The Gaulish Village Auckland, New Zealand (3:772/1615) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: F1J00001 Date: 01/14/98 From: TOM FREEMAN Time: 10:30am \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: Help! OS/2 won't honor space restrictio10:30:0001/14/98 Hello, I'm running a Novell IntraNetware network with several OS/2 clients. I have a network volume set up with a 4 GB partition. In it I have a directory with a space restriction of 200 MB. The OS/2 clients are not honoring the space restriction in this directory when using OS/2 applications. They show the full 4 GB as being available. Strangely, a DOS shell under OS/2 will recognize the restriction. I am using Warp 4 no FixPaks, and Netware Client for OS/2 v2.12 with the OS2PT1 patch. Does anyone have any suggestions or solutions? --- PCBoard (R) v15.3 (OS/2) 50 * Origin: Project Enable BBS - (304) 766-2690 (1:279/144) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: F1J00002 Date: 01/13/98 From: SCOTT PARKS Time: 09:57pm \/To: LUIS MANTEROLA (Read 3 times) Subj: win95.nam or unix.nam Luis Manterola wrote in a message to Scott Parks: LM> W95 took the long file name's format from OS/2, so it works LM> fine with this netware .NAM. LM> In further versions of netware it is called LONG.NAM. I've heard that 95 knows if it's talking to a Netware 3.11 server and that something is required in an INI file? I've installed OS2.NAM on ours and 95 does not know it yet. Possibly because I installed it after the 95 install? --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: (1:343/70) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: F1J00003 Date: 01/14/98 From: JAY DICKINSON Time: 06:37pm \/To: GARY FIRTH (Read 3 times) Subj: Server Problems... GF> That sounds like a good warning to me, also :-) GF> I have had OS2.NAM installed on my drives for several months now GF> (installed after files existed on the drives) and have never had to GF> run Vrepair... GF> I must remember to never run it... Aw come on now. I need Somebody to share this greif with.. :) I may go ahead and re-try the long name support and see how bad it makes things. It can't get much worse than it is now. I do have a semi current backup and all patches for the server on a seperate machine. Who knows, I may just melt this server. [chuckle] Thanks for the input, the way I read it, things should work. ... Jay * LAKOTA v1.5 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#51) * Origin: The Port Brew | S. A. Tx.| 210-337-4338 (1:387/310) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: F1J00004 Date: 01/13/98 From: ``GLEN CARLZEN`` Time: 06:34pm \/To: SCOTT PARKS (Read 3 times) Subj: ?? > `C> When I load up the software for my other computers (add > `C> in the Network cards) they seem to see the server with no > `C> problems other than that on each of these computers the F:\ > `C> partitions on all of them dissapear. This is not good. > `C> The main computer I run OS/2 Warp v4.0 and also run my BBS > `C> on it. The BBS is also using F:\ as its partition letter. > `C> It disappears. This is a BIG problem. > >Use "First Network Drive = G:(whatever)" in Net.cfg and >"Lastdrive = Z" in your Config.sys. I knew it was something simple I over looked. The FIX was in editing NET.CFG on each machine. Now they are all talking with each other and accessing the server. > `C> I tryed the MAP F:=BBS lines with no success. I know > `C> I'm not doing something correctly here. >Map G:= server_name:volume_name\bbs This fixed a problem I was having with the Novell server & Warp v4.0 server. They now are working together now. Thanks Again to all that have replied or sent me E-Mail. Glen The Animal --- WWIVGate 2.00c * Origin: * Eagle's Dare * Laurel, MD * (301) 498-1984 (1:109/500) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: F1J00005 Date: 01/14/98 From: BRIAN SHEPERD Time: 08:26am \/To: NEIL PRICE (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Rprinter and Win95 -=> Quoting Neil Price to Brian Sheperd <=- NP> The MS supplied agent does not work. Another red herring from NP> Murkysoft. NP> You must install Novell client32 and nprinter95. Nprinter95 is said to NP> be for 4.1x but it works fine with 3.1x NP> If your plotter can handle it, I'd recommend a Jetdirect card or NP> similar. You will get better speed and reliability. We have a HP designjet 755CM. It comes with a jetdirect card. I ran a 10BaseT cable from the main server to the printer; however, when we sent plots, it lost some information. I then ran a parallel cable from a workstation that is logged into both servers (with mine being the preferred server), and everything was good. I'm having all kinds of trouble with the machine that has the win printer agent on it. I think that I will have to uninstall everything today and restart. The company admin told me that he doesn't want me to use the client32 yet since it would be another variable. Thanks for the input, Brian ... A Rock ========>>> <<<===== A Hard Place. --- Blue Wave v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Strange Days412-271-0980 (1:129/278)