--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: EEF00003 Date: 10/09/97 From: ERIC TAM Time: 09:03am \/To: JONATHAN HUNTER (Read 3 times) Subj: Cache memory allocator out of available 09:03:0010/09/97 This message was written at 9:01a on 10-09-1997. Hi Jonathan, JH> I recently put a 5 gig hard disk in my Netware 3.12 server (upgrading from JH> 1.7 gig), and it's been steadily filling up since (no surprises there! :-) JH> But today I started getting strange errors from my Win95 clients, and then JH> from the BBS, about problems saving files... On the console log are JH> messages such as: JH> 10/5/97 3:02:56 am: 1.1.39 Cache memory allocator out of available JH> memory What u need is put more RAM in your server. Maybe 64MB. It will also improve your server speed. :-) eric - CNA. --- RLCOMMS - LAN, WAN & MAN * Origin: Remote Link Communications * +61-2-9541-0870 * (3:712/330) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: EEF00004 Date: 10/09/97 From: ARTHUR MARSH Time: 02:19pm \/To: JONATHAN HUNTER (Read 3 times) Subj: Cache memory allocator out of available 14:19:4210/09/97 On Sun 05 Oct at 03:07 Jonathan Hunter (2:250/182) wrote to All: JH> I recently put a 5 gig hard disk in my Netware 3.12 server JH> (upgrading from 1.7 gig), and it's been steadily filling up JH> since (no surprises there! :-) JH> But today I started getting strange errors from my Win95 JH> clients, and then from the BBS, about problems saving JH> files... On the console log are messages such as: JH> 10/5/97 3:02:56 am: 1.1.39 Cache memory allocator out of JH> available memory. Sounds like the classic REGISTER MEMORY problem: You need to rename your sys:system\autoexec.ncf to something like sys:system\autoexe2.ncf, then create a c:\server.312\autoexec.ncf. The following is how our server was before loading a SCSI HBA driver re-entrantly. Note that we use MPR 3.0 so that you don't see the loads and binds of LAN and WAN cards and protocols in the following: In C:\server.312\startup.ncf, you load patches, ;******* PM312 is the NW v3.12 Patch Manager. ******** LOAD C:\SERVER.312\PATCHES\312PT9\PM312 PMLOAD C:\SERVER.312\PATCHES\312PT9\ ;** PMLOAD loads all patches in directory specified.** ; PATCH MANAGER AND PATHCES TO BE LOADED IN THE STARTUP.NCF ;(Commented out by Patch install)LOAD C:\SERVER.312\NPAPATCH SET AUTO REGISTER MEMORY ABOVE 16 MEGABYTES=OFF ; line below needed by backup exec SET RESERVED BUFFERS BELOW 16 MEG = 200 SET MINIMUM PACKET RECEIVE BUFFERS=100 Then in C:\server.312\autoexec.ncf you name your file server, IPX internal net number, load your disk driver, register memory FILE SERVER NAME GROVER IPX INTERNAL NET 2 # BUSLOGIC DRIVER LOAD BT31X PORT=330 INT=B NUMLUNS=6 VERBOSE OVER16MEG ; use 1000000 1000000 if you have 32 Meg of ram, ; 1000000 3000000 if you have 64 Meg REGISTER MEMORY 1000000 1000000 MOUNT SYS SYS:SYSTEM\AUTOEXE2.NCF Thaen in sys:system\autoexe2.ncf you just do what requires sys to be mounted: # file sys:system\autoexe2.ncf Fri 15/11/96 LOAD MAC load conlog maximum=100 load nfs mount all ; Network driver LOADs and BINDs are initiated via ; INITSYS.NCF. The actual LOAD and BIND commands ; are contained in INITSYS.NCF and NETINFO.CFG. ; These files are in SYS:ETC. sys:etc\initsys.ncf load synctime load after311 load cdrom # start discport ## DISCPORT load pserver dirc_print SET Maximum Outstanding NCP Searches = 100 load REMFILFX # start nuc unistart.ncf # Macintosh support load afp # start backup exec bestart.ncf sys:etc\netinfo.cfg looks a bit like the following. MPR's Inetcfg is a lot easier to use than having to manually maintain the following: LOAD SNMP LOAD PPPTSM LOAD PBLAST NAME=PBLAST_1_1 CHANNEL=1 INT=C PORT=380 LOAD 3C5X9 NAME=3COM_E82 FRAME=Ethernet_802.2 ISA PORT=300 IDPORT=110 LOAD 3C5X9 NAME=3COM_EII FRAME=Ethernet_II ISA PORT=300 IDPORT=110 LOAD 3C5X9 NAME=3COM_ESP FRAME=Ethernet_SNAP ISA PORT=300 IDPORT=110 LOAD APPLETLK ROUTING=YES S_CHECKSUM=NO CHECKSUM=NO PHASE1=NO INTERNAL_NET_MODE=YES ZFILE=YES NET=7-7 BIND AppleTlk 3COM_ESP net=195-195 LOAD Tcpip RIP=No Forward=Yes LOAD IPConfig Screen=no BIND IP 3COM_EII ARP=Yes Mask=255.255.255.224 Address=202.14.187.100 BIND IP PBLAST_1_1 Target=CAMTECH Wan=Unnum SET Reply To Get Nearest Server=ON LOAD IPXSTACK LOAD IPXRTR ROUTING=RIPSAP CFGDIR=SYS:ETC SEQ=1 LOAD IPXRTRNM SEQ=1 LOAD SPXCONFG Q=1 A=540 V=108 W=54 R=10 S=1000 SET IPX NetBIOS Replication Option=1 BIND IPX 3COM_E82 net=301 seq=1 LOAD REMOTE secret LOAD RSPX --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: Camelot Swamp MJCNA, Hawthorndene, Sth Australia (3:800/812) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: EEF00005 Date: 10/09/97 From: ARTHUR MARSH Time: 02:29pm \/To: KRISTIAN RASK (Read 3 times) Subj: Novell 4.11 on OS/2 & CAPI On Tue 07 Oct at 07:25 Kristian Rask (2:238/12.41) wrote to All: KR> Hi There KR> Novell 4.11 can be installed on OS/2 KR> Novell 4.11 can use a ISDN card w. a Novell CAPI driver KR> Novell 4.11 uses DSKSHARE, CDROMSHR, LANSHARE to KR> use devices shared w. OS/2 KR> Is there an equivalent module for CAPI... (CAPISHR) so KR> that CAPI for OS/2 is used and both Novell & OS/2 can "see" KR> the CAPI driver KR> regards KR> Kristian Rask Is there any problem with giving Netware 4.11 under OS/2 exclusive access to the ISDN card and run Netware CAPI? Can Netware 4.11 under OS/2 share any WAN devices? --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: Camelot Swamp MJCNA, Hawthorndene, Sth Australia (3:800/812) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: EEF00006 Date: 10/10/97 From: HAL RONEY Time: 09:00am \/To: CHRIS COOK (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Cache memory allocato CC> HR> FOR EACH DOS VOLUME CC> HR> M=.023 x volume size(in MB) / block size CC> HR> FOR EACH VOLUME WITH ADDED NAME SPACE CC> HR> M=.032 x volume size(in MB) / block size CC> HR> Add totals for ALL volumes and then CC> HR> (optional but highly recommended) add 1 to 4 Meg for additional cache CC> HR> buffer RAM to optimize performance. (the more RAM you provide for cache CC> HR> buffers, the better your system's performance will be.) CC>According to this calculation, my server should not boot either , I ave CC>2 gig drives and a 7 disk cd changer on a 3.12 server with 64 meg ram....and CC>5 work stations going most of the time, 4 all the time. Dunno what to tell ya Chris. Those are not MY numbers. That's a direct quote from the NetWare 3.12 Installation and Upgrade manual. As a matter of fact, for the purposes of the CNE test Admin, one MUST include 4 Meg from the "optional, add 1 to 4 Meg" line above. (in 4.x the calculation has changed to simply .008 times volume size) Of course these are minimums and if you load a slew of .NLMs you'll have to add the ram they use. And more is ALWAYS better . You don't say whether OS/2 Name Space is loaded and for which, if any, volumes. How large are these CD volumes? Are all seven CDs MOUNTed at the same time? Number of workstations matter not. As an anecdote, I once had a customer with a simple 3.12 server with one 3 gig drive w/OS/2 Name Space and 32 meg. He decided he didn't need to pay me to add another 3 gig drive. Result...my phone rings. Seems that this previously Rock Solid server won't boot! "Won't boot?" I say, "Why was it down?" "Aha!" End result...most profitable 32 Meg upgrade I've ever sold, and a customer that won't even consider working on his own server anymore . Regards, HTR --- . OLX 2.2 . 640k = 4480 in dog bytes. * Origin: Lunatic Fringe BBS * Richardson, TX * 972-235-5288 * (1:124/2113) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: EEF00007 Date: 10/08/97 From: BONNO BLOKSMA Time: 08:00pm \/To: JONATHAN HUNTER (Read 3 times) Subj: Cache memory allocator out of available 20:00:0110/08/97 Reply-To: bonno.bloksma@bighole.iaf.nl Hello Jonathan! Sunday October 05 1997 02:07, Jonathan Hunter wrote to All: JH> 10/5/97 3:02:56 am: 1.1.39 Cache memory allocator out of available JH> memory. JH> 10/5/97 3:02:56 am: 1.1.138 Insufficient directory space (or memory) JH> to preserve SYS:Y00418.CNM during file erase. JH> 10/5/97 3:03:03 am: 1.1.138 Insufficient directory space (or memory) JH> to preserve SYS:Y06A60.CNM during file erase. One of the problems might be the total number of files on the disk. JH> It's got the OS2 name space on, as well, for Windows 95 long filenames. Namespaces eat up cache memeory but... JH> The server has 32MB RAM, and MONITOR reports: JH> Permanent Memory Pool: 1,749,128 Bytes 5% 1,747,164 In Use JH> Alloc Memory Pool: 1,227,432 Bytes 4% 1,203,544 In Use JH> Cache Buffers: 16,786,176 Bytes 52% This looks OK, although in a buisiness situation you'd normally make sure you'd have about 60-70% cache buffers. JH> It's been working fine up till today, and as a temporary measure I JH> deleted some files from the server until I can get it fixed. I'd say look at the number of files and directories, I think there's a limit of each per volume. if that's your problem then split the volume up in 2 new volumes. See ya on/off-line |] |] |_]onno |_]loksma --- * Origin: Point of Big Hole BBS, Enschede, Netherlands (2:283/7.32) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: EEF00008 Date: 10/10/97 From: SCOTT PARKS Time: 10:06am \/To: DAMIAN HUPFELD (Read 3 times) Subj: Novell clients and Exchange Damian Hupfeld wrote in a message to Scott Parks: DH> Ive seen it done where you only log in to the Novell network DH> via the Client32 and it logs you onto the NT server - worked DH> really well, better actually than loging into the NT box DH> itself, but no, Ive never done it myself. It must have just been a bad hair day when I first set it up because it worked like a breeze the next day. The Exchange client is a TCP/IP connection and so is about as seperate from Netware as a web browser. Novell's Client32 was not a problem. Scott Parks sparks@helix.eskimo.com --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: Helix BBS - Support National Public Radio (1:343/70) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: EEF00009 Date: 10/10/97 From: MALCOLM MILES Time: 11:47am \/To: SCOTT PARKS (Read 3 times) Subj: Novell clients and Exchange On Oct 05, 1997 Scott Parks wrote to all: SP> Anyone have a routine for using Novell's WIN95 client32 while SP> connecting to an Exchange server. I had some success with SP> Microsoft clients but just about none when trying Client32. I think you have to run both clients in this situation. I have both running and the Netware client is used for connection to Netware servers over IPX and the Microsoft Networking client is used for connection to the Exchange server over TCP/IP. mgm --- timEd 1.10+ * Origin: Tardis BBS +61 3 9819 7093 (3:633/260) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: EEF00010 Date: 10/11/97 From: ARTHUR MARSH Time: 02:39am \/To: MALCOLM MILES (Read 4 times) Subj: Win '95 / NT as clients On Tue 07 Oct at 21:04 Malcolm Miles (3:633/260) wrote to Arthur Marsh: MM> On Oct 04, 1997 Arthur Marsh wrote to Frank Ramsey: AM> For Win'95 to store user profiles on NW 3.12, would one AM> need to use the Novell Client, and would one need to load AM> OS2.NAM / LONG.NAM before mounting SYS and have added OS2 AM> namespace to sys if profiles are stored in SYS:\MAIL? MM> No, you don't need to use the Novell client, but you will MM> need to add OS/2 namespace to your SYS volume. Thanks... I could do it now, but I'd rather ensure that we have os2.nam and V_OS2.NLM on c:\server.312 first (-:. I found a good amount of information on http://www.orca.bc.ca/win95 about it just in the last day or so... MM> The main MM> problem with using the SYS volume is that if you have many MM> users and a small SYS volume you can easily run out of disk MM> space. There is an undocumented API call that allows you to MM> redirect the location of the user profile directory. We used MM> this to redirect the user profile to the user's home MM> directory on the DATA volume. In our case we have several NW clients that won't be running Win'95 (DOS bbs and helper machines, Macintoshes, and our Unixware machine) and only a few usernames that will be using Win '95. MM> The other problem that you will run into is trying to roam MM> .INI files. We ended up writing a custom service that would MM> copy a user's INI files from their LAN home directory to the MM> PC's C:\WINDOWS directory when they logged-in and then, when MM> they logged-out, copied all the changed INI files back down MM> to the LAN. That sounds awful... Can't the policy editor enforce user profiles and that keep tweaking on the sys:mail directory? MM> Yet another problem is file associations. Unfortunately MM> Windows assumes that all applications are run from the local MM> PC and thus stores the file associations in the MM> LOCAL_MACHINE part of the registry. In our case all our MM> applications are run from the server and we needed the file MM> associations to be associated with the user and not the PC. MM> We attacked this using brute force and copied the whole MM> HKey_Local_Machine\Classes branch down to the user's home MM> directory when they logged-off. When a new user logged-in MM> their saved Classes branch from their home directory was MM> imported into the registry. MM> All of this was a major kludge but it worked well in MM> testing. It was never implemented into production as our MM> management decided to move to NT as our workstation platform MM> (not that NT actually solves any of the above problems either). )-:. MM> Hope this helps a bit. If you need any more details let me MM> know. I would also recommend, if you haven't already done MM> so, getting a copy of the Windows Resource Kit and reading MM> Chapter 15 on User Profiles and System Policies. Right... we have the OSR2 CD-ROM which includes this kind of thing. I was intrigued by the idea of using the Bootware ROMs and loading Win'95 across the network. Thanks again... Arthur. --- msgedsq 2.1 * Origin: Camelot Swamp MJCNA, Hawthorndene, Sth Australia (3:800/812) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: EEG00000 Date: 10/10/97 From: CHRIS STEVENS Time: 08:01pm \/To: SCOTT PARKS (Read 3 times) Subj: Re: Novell clients and Exchange SP> Anyone have a routine for using Novell's WIN95 client32 while SP> connecting to an Exchange server. I had some success with SP> Microsoft clients but just about none when trying Client32. Yep, it's easier than you think. Just install both clients, C32 and icrosoft Client for Networks... and make SURE that the users name and password are the same on the Novell Server as the NT server. Other than that there's nothing to it. --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: The Warp Zone/Simi,CA/USR-DS 28.8V.E/(805)526-6196 (1:102/1013) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 194 NOVELL Ref: EEG00001 Date: 10/11/97 From: HARRY OLDENHUIS Time: 07:45am \/To: HAL RONEY (Read 3 times) Subj: Cache memory allocator ou Hallo Hal JH>I recently put a 5 gig hard disk in my Netware 3.12 JH>server (upgrading from 1 JH>gig), and it's been steadily filling up since (no surprises there! :-) JH>But today I started getting strange errors from my JH>out of available memory. HR> I'm suprised the server even comes up without complaining! You need a HR> BARE MINIMUM of 40 Meg of ram, and more comfortably about 44 Meg. Of HR> course the more the better (to a point). I'd add 32 more for a total of HR> 64 Meg and be HAPPY! (you did say this was the ONLY volume? No cd-roms HR> etc.?) Sorry to interupt here, I had a 4.2 gig HD on the system and one CD rom using file compession, done over 4 volumes. There is, 238 directories and 48000 files on the system I was using 16 megs of ram for a long time and had no problems I now have 32 megs and find the system runs the same, and changed over to only 1 volume. HR> (optional but highly recommended) add 1 to 4 Meg for additional cache HR> buffer RAM to optimize performance. (the more RAM you provide for cache HR> buffers, the better your system's performance will be.) I also think, that depends on what hardware you have hanging off your system. HR> Good luck, Cheers Harry CNEIT --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Novel Users group Perth 61-[08-9458-1255] (3:690/416)