--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F2100000 Date: 01/31/98 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 11:26am \/To: SCOTT PARKS (Read 3 times) Subj: 95 finding DHCP Scott Parks wrote in a message to all: SP> I re-did the scope on our NT DHCP server and my NT SP> workstation found it right away but 95 workstations don't SP> seem to be able to. Is there a "standard" delay time for SP> some clients ... or have I just missed something? The client may think it owns a lease already. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F2100001 Date: 01/31/98 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 11:28am \/To: JAME CLAY (Read 3 times) Subj: min. cable lenght? Jame Clay wrote in a message to Mike Bilow: JC> Is there a minimum length for 10base2? (I'm curious if JC> there is such for 10baseT as well, but I'm not useing that JC> just yet...) Yes: 0.5m in both cases. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F2100002 Date: 01/30/98 From: JONATHAN WILLIAMSON Time: 03:08pm \/To: MATT GODIN (Read 3 times) Subj: Fat 32 Prob.. Hi Matt! On 28 Jan 98, at about 23:49, I decided to reply to Matt Godin, it was only about Fat 32 Prob.. MG> How do ya Downgrade from FAT32 back to thge lovely FAT16? I wann MG> ainstall NT 4.0 Server but it doesn't work with FAT32.. Is there MG> a way to convert it with a dos command that comes with NT4? Or MG> are there any progs that do it? Partition magic will do that in about 5 mins. It's an amazing piece of software, no serious computer addict should be without it! Bye! _______________________________ | \ / E-mail: Jonny@thepentagon.com \___/onathan \/\/ illiamson Web: www.compura.com/explosion/jonny ... Beam me up, there's no intelligent life here! --- GoldED 3.00.Beta2 UNREG * Origin: Damn! I can't think of anything funny. (2:440/222.23) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F2100003 Date: 01/30/98 From: NEIL CROFT Time: 07:15am \/To: WILL HARGRAVE (Read 3 times) Subj: Upgrade * Reply to message in MY_MAIL Hiya Will, On 28-01-98, whilst lying in the gutter of the information super highway, I heard Will Hargrave whispering to Neil Croft about Upgrade, GD>>>> Going to 10baseT from coax-based Ethernet will increase GD>>>> reliability. WH>>> Eh? 10Base2 is generally /less/ reliable than 10BaseT - if one WH>>> node NC>> That's what the man said Will. WH> Shoot me. I can't read :) BANG! WH>>> Arcnet is very robust. It's not inherently unreliable. NC>> It's still generally a co-ax. WH> Yes, but any old coax will work over short distances.... I've never seen a coax fail in the middle. I've seen dozens that fail at the ends. NC>> Do what I'm doing. Go to 16meg Token ring. =o) WH> Apparently Arcnet was available in 100mbits??? Pass. I know IBM are working on kilobit TR. Whoosh. NC>> Anyone care to work out the theoretical and practical improvements in NC>> performance of 16meg Token Ring over 10base2 Ethernet? WH> Depends a lot on usage, I would think. 3 or 4 PCs. IBM 16/4 ISA cards. AT&T Cat 5 wiring (No rubbish here matey), vs 3Com Combo cards and a rough bit of coax I put in. /| / neil.croft@capgemini.co.uk / |/eil =o) 2:250/410 @ fidonet --- * Origin: The Pillarbox BBS +44-1709-517224 (2:250/410) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F2100004 Date: 01/30/98 From: NEIL CROFT Time: 07:19am \/To: WILL HARGRAVE (Read 3 times) Subj: RJ-45 # or Cond ? * Reply to message in MY_MAIL Hiya Will, On 28-01-98, whilst lying in the gutter of the information super highway, I heard Will Hargrave whispering to Neil Croft about RJ-45 # or Cond ?, NC>> all about cat 6 and 7. Doh! Next time we'll have fibre to the desk. NC>> That should last a while. WH> Apparently the Cat 6 standard was to have pairs glued together.... I didn't read the bumf I was so dischuffed. WH> Fibre is so expensive at the moment though... Fibre patches are absolutely obscene in price. I wonder how many you'd have to use to warrant buying the kit to make your own. WH> ISTR FDDI is /another/ token ring type protocol... It is indeed a token based system. I don't think it's a protocol though. What's the layer above transport in the ISO OSI model? /| / neil.croft@capgemini.co.uk / |/eil =o) 2:250/410 @ fidonet --- * Origin: The Pillarbox BBS +44-1709-517224 (2:250/410) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F2100005 Date: 01/30/98 From: NEIL CROFT Time: 07:22am \/To: WILL HARGRAVE (Read 3 times) Subj: X * Reply to message in MY_MAIL Hiya Will, On 28-01-98, whilst lying in the gutter of the information super highway, I heard Will Hargrave whispering to Neil Croft about X, NC>> We do it over PPP at work but I suspect you mean PPP over pots, not NC>> an n times kilostream? WH> Pots. It would work considerably better over, say, 10 kilostream lines WH> reverse multiplexed :) I'm currently a fan of Frame Relay although 16meg SMDS looks quite nice albeit v. expensive. Interesting fault yesterday. One of the FR links went down at work. C&W swore blind they had no alarm up but I couldn't get the router paths up regardless of what I did. I even went and checked that no-one had pulled the cable out. Turns out someone at C&W had re-assigned the bandwidth. Nice. /| / neil.croft@capgemini.co.uk / |/eil =o) 2:250/410 @ fidonet --- * Origin: The Pillarbox BBS +44-1709-517224 (2:250/410) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F2100006 Date: 01/31/98 From: NEIL CROFT Time: 07:24am \/To: MIKE BILOW (Read 3 times) Subj: Upgrade Hiya Mike, On 29-01-98, whilst lying in the gutter of the information super highway, I heard Mike Bilow whispering to Will Hargrave about Upgrade, NC>> Do what I'm doing. Go to 16meg Token ring. =o) MB> I really hope that was a joke... Why? It's a far better system than Ethernet. NC>> Anyone care to work out the theoretical and practical NC>> improvements in performance of 16meg Token Ring over 10base2 NC>> Ethernet? MB> Only until the bills arrive. Total cost to me. Zilch. Nada. Nowt. Nothing. =o) All redundant equipment following work's move to ethernet. True if I had to buy it it would be V. Expensive. /| / neil.croft@capgemini.co.uk / |/eil =o) 2:250/410 @ fidonet --- * Origin: The Pillarbox BBS +44-1709-517224 (2:250/410) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F2100007 Date: 01/31/98 From: HAL RONEY Time: 05:47pm \/To: MIKE BILOW (Read 3 times) Subj: min. cable lenght? MB> JC> Is there a minimum length for 10base2? (I'm curious if MB> JC> there is such for 10baseT as well, but I'm not useing that MB> JC> just yet...) MB>Yes: 0.5m in both cases. Actually its, 0.5m to 185m for 10base2 and 0.6m to 100m for 10baseT but hey, whats 4 inches? (just don't ask your wife that question or your cable will be far to short) HTR --- . OLX 2.2 . Rube Goldberg - Famed designer of jumper switch layouts * Origin: Lunatic Fringe BBS * Richardson, TX * 972-235-5288 * (1:124/2113) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F2100008 Date: 01/31/98 From: SCOTT PARKS Time: 02:08pm \/To: MIKE BILOW (Read 3 times) Subj: 95 finding DHCP Mike Bilow wrote in a message to Scott Parks: MB> The client may think it owns a lease already. Guess I should have said that the 95 clients had hardwired addresses before I tried to get them to look for DHCP. --- GEcho 1.11+ * Origin: (1:343/70) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F2100009 Date: 01/31/98 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 08:33pm \/To: NICHOLAS COAD (Read 3 times) Subj: TCP/IP, NT server and RAS Nicholas Coad wrote in a message to Will Hargrave: NC> I figure I'll grab everything off the internet and try to NC> install across my lan. Know of a fast site where I can get NC> the various distributions. Start with the canonical sites: Debian: http://www.debian.org Red Hat: http://www.redhat.com Slackware: http://www.slackware.org Caldera: http://www.caldera.com (Watch out for "com" and "org" distinctions.) WH> They can be network installed...but only if you have an nfs server in WH> general (although some might support ftp) NC> nfs = novell file server ?? I'm only running a peer network NC> here without NT server (which would be replaced by Linux). NFS is "Network File System," the de facto Unix file sharing standard pioneered by Sun. Several Internet sites allow anonymously mounting their Linux archives in read-only mode for remote installation using NFS. Several of the distributions have installation programs which can use other protocols, such as FTP in the case of Debian. WH> This is Unix, it doesn't by default support featureless protocols WH> designed for low powered DOS machines... ;-) NC> :) Right now I'm in the process of setting up my own DNS NC> server to host my domain (erkware.com). Thus far it seems NC> fairly easy in NT SRV 4, is it especially difficult with NC> Linux? It is a great deal easier with Linux. The Microsoft DNS server has serious problems, and most NT boxes which need DNS servers seem to elect to use the freeware port of bind from Unix instead. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107)