--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F1W00005 Date: 01/26/98 From: WILL HARGRAVE Time: 05:47pm \/To: NICHOLAS COAD (Read 3 times) Subj: TCP/IP, NT server and RAS Hello Nicholas! On Sat 24 Jan 1998 at 18:05 you wrote the following to Mike Bilow: MB>> You might look at using Linux instead of NT. Linux will do IP MB>> Masquerading, which is the particular feature that you need. NC> I've been thinking of that, but it isn't too practical with the number NC> of computers I have running here. I'm running NT WS, Nt Server and NC> Win95. I wouldn't mind ditching NT server, but I'm planning on NC> starting a self-paced MCSE course shortly so I'll need all three NC> operating systems. Multiboot one of the MS operating systems, or get a cheap 486. Linux doesn't need vast amounts of either harddisk or memory. 8mb would probably be fine in a masquerading router. IP Masquerading (i.e renumbering) is generally thought of as a better option when you can trust the hosts on the local network. Linux is also free, and of course at some time you're probably going to want to run internet servers - common Linux distributions all have http, ftp, telnet and endless servers built in, plus IRC, etc downloadable from your nearest sunsite.unc.edu mirror. You won't regret it. Anyway, I have great fun playing around with my Linux machines :-) Will ====== Dave Carter for REC! ====== --- FMailX32 1.22 * Origin: I'm going to make whatever it takes (2:254/211.20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F1W00006 Date: 01/26/98 From: WILL HARGRAVE Time: 05:53pm \/To: ALL (Read 3 times) Subj: X Hello All! Just been playing around with a free X server for 95/NT (MiX, available from www.microimages.com) using client applications on my Linux box. Surprised at how well it works. I can recommend this as a great alternative to telnetting to the Linux machine (if yours don't have monitors/keyboards). I'm just wondering if anyone's done X over a slow link (i.e over PPP/modem) and how badly it performs! Will ====== Dave Carter for REC! ====== --- FMailX32 1.22 * Origin: You come, deliver my demons (2:254/211.20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F1W00007 Date: 01/27/98 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 08:05am \/To: LOUIE TARPO (Read 3 times) Subj: subnet ip? Louie Tarpo wrote in a message to Mike Bilow: LT> What's the maximum length that 2 hubs can be connected LT> together with 10baseT? 10base2? As with any run between repeaters, 100m for 10Base-T and 200m for 10Base-2. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F1W00008 Date: 01/27/98 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 08:07am \/To: NICHOLAS COAD (Read 3 times) Subj: TCP/IP, NT server and RAS Nicholas Coad wrote in a message to Mike Bilow: MB> You would probably learn a lot with a Linux machine, and you could use MB> almost any old 386 with 8 MB RAM to do it. NC> Hmmm... can Linux act as a file server for the network? (NT WS NC> and Win95 machines) Yes. The Samba package emulates an NT Server using NetBIOS over TCP/IP. The mars_nwe package emulates a Novell NetWare 3.x server. Both are freeware. NC> Also, can it handle having two different NIC cards and two NC> modems? (ie, will it complain with non-standard IRQs) Linux will support a large number of NICs and serial ports with no trouble. You can use non-standard IRQs and even share IRQs across ports (if your hardware allows this) quite easily, using the "setserial" utility. NC> What version of Linux do you recommend? RedHat, Slackware? I do not recommend Slackware these days. Red Hat is good, as is Debian. If you are just getting started with Linux and your primary interest is in building a network server, Red Hat or Caldera is probably the best choice. NC> Can it be installed over a network (I have a CD-ROM drive only NC> in one Win95 machine). The Debian distribution can be installed over a network. NC> How well does DOSEMU work with communications ports? I run my NC> BBS system, and am a hub, how reliable is will things run in a NC> DOS window? I don't know. There is native Fidonet and BBS software for Linux, but you would probably be better off running the BBS on a DOS machine that acts as a network client to the Linux machine. MB> WinGate is intended as a complete package, and even works on MB> Windows 95. NC> Wonderful. Now I just gotta figure that puppy out. :) It's not that hard. NC> Thanks a million for all the information. You're welcom. Good luck. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F1W00009 Date: 01/27/98 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 08:11am \/To: WILL HARGRAVE (Read 3 times) Subj: RJ-45 # or Cond ? Will Hargrave wrote in a message to Mike Bilow: WH>> Does 100BaseTX use all 8 pins then? MB> No. 100Base-TX uses two pairs like 10Base-T, but faster. There is MB> 100Base-T4 which does use all four pairs. WH> Ahh yes, that's because it works over Cat 4 cable doesn't it? 100Base-T4 is intended to work over Cat 3. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F1X00000 Date: 01/26/98 From: PAT GLENN Time: 07:56pm \/To: GERRY DANEN (Read 3 times) Subj: Upgrade Gerry, GD>PG> present we are on a peer to peer system, using ethernet with GD>PG> Windows'95 internal networking for software. We have a small network GD>PG> consisting of 6 units, one of which is primarily for file storage and GD>PG> print serving. The others are clients. (although peer is an option) GD>PG> What - if any - would be the advantage of going to a hub type system. GD>PG> Is there any compelling reason (speed, stability, etc.) to give an GD>PG> upgrade any serious consideration? GD> GD>What are you currently running, Pat? Arcnet, coax Ethernet? We are using coax ethernet. GD>When selecting network cards, pick something like a 3Com 10/100 nic. GD>For the hub, if you can afford it, go 100-baseT. As for cards we are using a combination of brands. The 286's are using ISA Kinston cards while the Pentiums are using PCI cards. All of our cards have the option of using the BNC connector of the square one that looks like a telephone jack. Pat Glenn ___ * UniQWK v4.2 * The Windows Mail Reader --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: C+Net BBS. Programming & Networking. (1:342/601) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F1X00001 Date: 01/27/98 From: GERRY DANEN Time: 07:41am \/To: PAT GLENN (Read 3 times) Subj: Upgrade GD>PG> present we are on a peer to peer system, using ethernet with GD>PG> Windows'95 internal networking for software. We have a small network GD>PG> consisting of 6 units, one of which is primarily for file storage and GD>PG> print serving. The others are clients. (although peer is an option) GD>PG> What - if any - would be the advantage of going to a hub type system. GD>PG> Is there any compelling reason (speed, stability, etc.) to give an GD>PG> upgrade any serious consideration? GD>What are you currently running, Pat? Arcnet, coax Ethernet? PG> We are using coax ethernet. GD>When selecting network cards, pick something like a 3Com 10/100 nic. GD>For the hub, if you can afford it, go 100-baseT. PG> As for cards we are using a combination of brands. The 286's are PG> using ISA Kinston cards while the Pentiums are using PCI cards. PG> All of our cards have the option of using the BNC connector of the PG> square one that looks like a telephone jack. That would be an RJ-45 connector. Just get yourself a hub (check the west end Compusmart), some cables, and you're in business. If it's an active hub (built-in repeater), each cable can be up to 100 metres. A passive hub can support 100 metres total length (easiest to figure is take the 2 longest cables and make sure the 2 added together don't exceed 100 m). Gerry Danen (gdanen@connect.ab.ca) C+Net BBS @ 403-477-9545 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/9823 Moderator STN.Y2K: Year 2000 information & discussion 1 year, 338 days, 16 hours, 27 minutes, and 21 seconds until January 1, 2000. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: C+Net BBS. Programming & Networking. (1:342/601) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F1X00002 Date: 01/22/98 From: GEORGE FLIGER Time: 06:21am \/To: WILL HARGRAVE (Read 3 times) Subj: anyone recognise this? On 20 Jan 98 05:40pm, Will Hargrave wrote to Scott Parks: WH> Hello Scott! WH> On Fri 16 Jan 1998 at 08:19 you wrote the following to Louie WH> Tarpo: SP> Sorry ... no direct experience with those. The card should SP> not require any software but the Prom still needs to know what SP> the name of the boot image is _and_ you need the software to SP> make an image. Removing the Prom may get rid of that boot SP> message and if it's a 16bit card you might try a NE2000 setup. WH> WH> Actually, there is no "setup" program for NE2000 (16bit) or WH> NE1000 (8bit) cards - the originals all used jumpers. There are some clone cards out there that can be software configured to be NE2000 "compatible". George ... Do not merely believe in miracles, rely on them. --- Via Silver Xpress V4.4P [Reg] * Origin: Chipper Clipper * Networking fun! (1:137/2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F1X00003 Date: 01/22/98 From: GEORGE FLIGER Time: 06:26am \/To: TOM RUDDY (Read 3 times) Subj: NOVELL & WD 6.4GIG On 20 Jan 98 08:24pm, Tom Ruddy wrote to Mike Bilow: TR> Are PCI EIDE readily used for duplexing drives? As in low TR> cost servers? And is there enough of a cost savings (over TR> all scsi equipment) to justify using all EIDE hardware? TR> (With no thought given to any performance hits.) MB> I would not recommend EIDE servers for any number of MB> reasons. I would also consider "low-cost duplexing" MB> to be an oxymoron. TR> Understood. But the question is; Is it possible to duplex TR> drives (two drives two controllers) using the EIDE interface. TR> I would ASSuME you would be best off using a PCI EIDE TR> controller for at least one controller to avoid using the TR> secondary ports on most motherboards which usually sit on TR> IRQ15. TR> I wouldn't practice this. I am merely morbidly curious. It CAN be done, however, you still have to follow the basic rule that both controllers be identical hardware. If using onboard controllers, you must use both. If using external adapters, both must be of the same manufacture and model, to include bios revision (if bios driven). Any differing and the solution will either not work at all or you CAN expect unpredictable results. George CNE4 ... Abstain from wine, women, and song; mostly song. --- Via Silver Xpress V4.4P [Reg] * Origin: Chipper Clipper * Networking fun! (1:137/2) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: F1X00004 Date: 01/27/98 From: WILL HARGRAVE Time: 09:08pm \/To: NICHOLAS COAD (Read 3 times) Subj: TCP/IP, NT server and RAS Hello Nicholas! On Mon 26 Jan 1998 at 10:58 you wrote the following to Mike Bilow: MB>> You would probably learn a lot with a Linux machine, and you MB>> could use almost any old 386 with 8 MB RAM to do it. NC> Hmmm... can Linux act as a file server for the network? (NT WS and NC> Win95 machines) Yes. You need to get the Samba package, which basically emulates a 95/NT/MS Lan Manager server with the SMB protocol. NC> Also, can it handle having two different NIC cards and two modems? NC> (ie, will it complain with non-standard IRQs) Of course not :) Linux can cope with all kinds of wierd things, including 4 IDE channels in one machine (i.e 8 IDE devices :-) NC> What version of Linux do you recommend? RedHat, Slackware? Matter of personal choice, really. Redhat is generally thought to be the generally easier to install one for "newbies" NC> Can it be installed over a network (I have a CD-ROM drive only in one NC> Win95 machine). Not from Win95 easily. Probably your best bet is to pull the CD drive and put it in your soon-to-be linux machine for the installation. NC> How well does DOSEMU work with communications ports? I run NC> my BBS system, and am a hub, how reliable is will things run in a DOS NC> window? Reasonably. It's not completely stable. Will ====== Dave Carter for REC! ====== --- FMailX32 1.22 * Origin: You want to recreate it. (2:254/211.20)