--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: ECQ00001 Date: 08/18/97 From: ROWAN_CROWE Time: 06:53pm \/To: BENJAMIN HANNON (Read 4 times) Subj: private subnet ip? * Benjamin Hannon writes to Rowan_Crowe, on Friday August 15 1997 at 15:18: BH> Quick question, what netmask should I use for my lan address of BH> 192.168.69.10? currently I am using 255.255.255.0. Could this be BH> the cause of my router not working properly? 255.255.255.0 is fine, this will give you 254 useable IP addresses, effectively an olde style "C class". You could use 255.255.0.0 which will give you 16383 (or is it 16382?) useable IP addresses, but it may confuse software which assumes that a netmask of 255.255.0.0 means the IP block is a class B (192.168.x.x isn't). BH> I am running WARP 4.0 as my BH> router with WFWG as client machines. By any chance do you know of BH> any routing daemons for OS/2 that will also allow the router to have BH> servers on the same system? Is your network that complex that you need routing daemons? Example... I run a small ISP, with my IP network split into 2 parts at different locations. I run a routing daemon at both ends for convenience and future expansion, but I could still do the routing statically and get away with it. For a simple LAN over ethernet or similar, you don't even need static routing: protocols like ARP work out which machine on the LAN to send a packet for x.x.x.x to. All you should need to configure each machine is a gateway address (default route), netmask, and local IP address. For a private LAN the gateway address is not relevant, as all hosts are reachable directly and there is no external connectivity. Cheers. ... rowan@sensation.net.au | http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ --- * Origin: Sensation: Melbourne AUSTRALIA. (3:635/728.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: ECQ00002 Date: 08/20/97 From: CRAIG HEALY Time: 10:07am \/To: MIKE BILOW (Read 4 times) Subj: Adaptec AHA-3985W card Re: Adaptec card purchase.. -> CH> $199. The box was a bit "shopworn", but the card and disks -> CH> seemed to have the factory shrinkwrap on them. The only -> CH> catalog price I saw was about $800 for the thing... -> -> For a 3985?! That's a fantastic price if it works at all. However, -> find that it is more useful to you to trade it for something that wor -> the software you end up running... Yes, and I agonized for a fair bit of time over the "Too good to be true" quandry. That kind of deal *never* happens to me! And they even took a credit card :) -> CH> Not sure what chipset is in it. It's at work, and I'm at home. -> -> I'll start asking questions if you can't find out easily. I can look easily enough, but what chips do I look at? There are a few Adaptec private labelled ones, and what look to be some ROMs. -> CH> Also picked up the InfoMagic Linux 6-disk set, but no BSD -> CH> there... -> -> I recommend that, as long as you have a current release. I think -> the most -> recent is April 1997, so there should be a new one shortly. You can -> check their web site, "http://www.infomagic.com". This is the April 1997 version... -> CH> I would like to use it as the basis for a new lan for the -> CH> BBS. I really don't care what the server software is, so -> CH> even Novell as supported would be OK. I do have 3.12, and -> CH> it is supported by the card. -> -> The problem with RAID -- Redundant Array of Inexpensive Drives -- is -> will need a bunch of hard drives to make it work. This will get expe I'm expecting that. This isn't something that will happen soon, but eventually it will happen. Some of the drives on the system are aging, and will need replacement eventually. Just hope I can do it in a timely and controlled fashion. -> CH> Also discovered that all nodes access the Wildcat Novell -> CH> server by use of the Lantastic software. Any major -> CH> downsides to that? -> -> I think you are wrong. You can't use Lantastic client software to ac -> Novell server, as far as I know. You could, however, use the NDIS pa -> client stack from Lantastic under the NDIS-to-ODI shim and Novell cli -> effect, this would allow you to load both the Lantastic and Novell -> clients. I never would have thought that Lantastic would access Novell, but it appears that's what happens here. I picked up an older book, "Building Lantastic Networks" (Joseph R. Levy). Was reading through, and hit upon a section titled "LANtastic NCP Client Support". It went on to describe how LANtastic v6.00 can let the computer function as a client on a NetWare server. Showed the STARTNET.BAT used, and it was almost exactly what that file is on Chowdanet. It also mentioned that it was a way for the client to access both LANtastic servers and Novell servers simultaneously. I suppose only Brad or Steve Hodell would know for sure why it was done... -c- --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Chowdanet! 20gb Amateur Radio BBS (401-331-5587) (1:323/120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: ECQ00003 Date: 08/20/97 From: HERBERT GRAF Time: 03:58pm \/To: SIMON HUGGINS (Read 4 times) Subj: Email on a LAN -=> Quoting Simon Huggins to Evo <=- >> Is this possible using the Microsoft Mail postoffice thing? >> How do I set it up? E> You need to get a copy of Microsoft Exchange Server (reg E> WinNT 4 Svr tho) or I know Pegasus Mail can check multiple SH> Ah, but then I need to run NT4 I presume? E> PoPs at once - netscape Communicator 4 might as well but not E> sure. If you was to use Pegasus or Communicator you would E> have to set up the folder which stores the mail in as a E> shared folder so all computers have access to it and also E> setup the location to the folders. SH> I'll have a look at Pegasus. I know it does do multiple pops (I used SH> to use it for that.) but I'm not sure about the folder things. Download Internet Explorer 4.0 Platform Preview 2, it can handle multiple accounts and is very stable, for a beta. It doesn't crash much at all, alot less than other microsoft betas. TTYL ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 --- Platinum Xpress/Win/Wildcat5! v2.0 * Origin: Bits & Bytes BBS - Toronto, Ont. 416- 532-1784 1:25 (1:250/350) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: ECQ00004 Date: 08/21/97 From: CHARLES MILLER Time: 10:30am \/To: BRIAN NIEGOCKI (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Netware v4.1 Installion Help RE: Re: Netware v4.1 Installion Help BY: Brian Niegocki to Charles Miller on Mon Aug 18 1997 10:20 pm > I've got an older 16bit model - the 1522a. > You might want to wade through the docs and see if it supports multiple LUN's...If not, you only will be able to see on disk. Charles ...You're upsetting me....on several levels. --- Synchronet+SBBSecho v1.22 * Origin: System Shock: 805-659-5733 & 805-647-7582 (1:206/2406) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: ECQ00005 Date: 08/21/97 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 05:14pm \/To: BRIAN NIEGOCKI (Read 4 times) Subj: Netware v4.1 Installion Help Brian Niegocki wrote in a message to Charles Miller: CM> Assuming that they are SCSI devices, you need a SCSI card that CM> can handle multiple LUNS. The Adaptec 2940 series works very CM> well over here. If you ha an Adaptec card, let me know and I CM> will show you my startup.ncf and autoexec.ncf. BN> I've got an older 16bit model - the 1522a. The AHA-152x will correctly support multiple LUNs per PUN with recent rivers. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: ECQ00006 Date: 08/21/97 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 05:20pm \/To: BERNHARD KUEMEL (Read 4 times) Subj: my first ethernet Bernhard Kuemel wrote in a message to Mike Bilow: BK> Thank you, I will try these URLs. But I was told the NE1000 BK> cards are no longer supported by OS/2, so I think I have to BK> get other ones. Or, if someone finds a driver for it, please BK> tell me. The drivers in the archive WARPNET.ZIP from our BK> local IBM BBS crashes. I would recommend against using the NE1000 anyway, but it should be possible. It is a slow 8-bit card and has some odd problems. In the U.S., you can buy perfectly good NE2000 clones for under US$20, often on special for US$10. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: ECQ00007 Date: 08/21/97 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 05:21pm \/To: ALAN FRAYER (Read 4 times) Subj: Jumpers on network adapte Alan Frayer wrote in a message to Mike Bilow: -> In network terminology, Thin Ethernet is named "10Base-2" because it -> works at 10 Mbps over baseband and can go about 200 meters. The rule -> of thumb is to be conservative and therefore most manufacturers rate -> their equipment for 185 meters. You must, of course, use good -> quality, low-loss coax for long runs. AF> Mike, I seem to recall the 10Base-2 standard actually calls AF> for 185 meters, but is called 10Base-2 because no one will AF> want to refer to 10Base-1.85. AF> Comment on this? It is historical in nature. Technically, a network which only works to 185m could be in compliance with the 200m requirement, so manufacturers tend to read the standard this way. In fact, there is probably no network in existence which is going to work at 185m but fail at 200m, but the test specification would allow it. The problem arises from rounding errors. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: ECQ00008 Date: 08/21/97 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 05:33pm \/To: CRAIG HEALY (Read 4 times) Subj: Adaptec AHA-3985W card Craig Healy wrote in a message to Mike Bilow: CH> I can look easily enough, but what chips do I look at? CH> There are a few Adaptec private labelled ones, and what look CH> to be some ROMs. The big ones with "AIC" part codes on them. -> The problem with RAID -- Redundant Array of Inexpensive Drives -- is -> will need a bunch of hard drives to make it work. This will get expe CH> I'm expecting that. This isn't something that will happen CH> soon, but eventually it will happen. Some of the drives on CH> the system are aging, and will need replacement eventually. CH> Just hope I can do it in a timely and controlled fashion. I really hope that ChowdaNet is not still running on the same drives I screwed into the cases back in 1992 or so. I probably have the original ChowdaNet drives around in a box somewhere: two 5.25-inch 20 MB MFM. CH> I never would have thought that Lantastic would access CH> Novell, but it appears that's what happens here. Novell is very touchy about NCP, which is considered trade secret. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: ECR00000 Date: 08/21/97 From: WILLIAM HARGRAVE Time: 12:13pm \/To: MIKE BILOW (Read 4 times) Subj: throughput Hello Mike! On Wednesday August 20 1997 at 06:17, Mike Bilow wrote to Mark Wright: MW>> I know are nt all others 4 pair ? or am I showing my MW>> ignorance... MB> I don't know. There are a lot of obscure 100 Mbps schemes I have MB> never actually run across except in sales literature. Such as HP's 100VG-AnyLAN. The Demand Priority is a nice idea, as opposed to 100Base-TX's CSMA/CD, but I don't think it's really taken off. Never heard of anyone actually using CDDI as well... .......................................................................... Will --- FMailX32 1.22 * Origin: wth@pinpoint.craybbs.co.uk (2:254/211.20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: ECR00001 Date: 08/20/97 From: BRIAN NIEGOCKI Time: 11:25am \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Networking Machines Ok, since I still have not installed Netware, i'm wondering what is the best way to do what I want to do. It seems that many people are swaying me from Netware v4.x because it's very complex for my needs. Here's what I have. Machines with 10base-T combo ethernet cards. 5 port mini stackable hub with wires etc to connect everything. Now, I wish to have one machine setup as sort of a server from which my other machine can access data. I would like to be able to store my BBS files (including the bbs software, and the file archives 'zips, etc') on the achine and be able to run the modems and stuff from a seperate machine or 2 machines. I want to put my scsi card on this machine so I can run my 2 7-disc CD changers, single scsi cd-rom, and my CDR to make cd's of the files from the BBS and for personal use. Later to get another SCSI card for my main machine. I want to be able to access everything from my main machine when I hook it up so I can transfer stuff back and forth easier than having to backup stuff to tape then restore it on the other machine. I want to be able to play multiplayer games across the LAN with my machines, and or any friend's machines that we hook up to it. I would like to possibly (in a year+) get a T1 (or a partial T) if I can, and have that for an internet feed since I use the damn thing so much :) I would like to be able to pass access to the T1 connection on to some friends who would split the cost using either PPP or whatever through a dialup. I'm not sure if it would grow into an ISP, but to split it between friends would definately be something for the future to cut the cost. So, what software do I use? :) --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Brian's World (516)-331-5540 Long Island, NY (1:2619/232)