--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: E3100004 Date: 02/27/97 From: JEFF DUNLOP Time: 11:02pm \/To: LEWIN EDWARDS (Read 8 times) Subj: Remote acces router JD>> Linux is for massochists. LE> To be blunt: Crap. LE> If the techs at your organization Lewin, pull your head out of your ass long enough to look at the context of the discussion next time. The scenario wasn't a large company with a full-time IS staff. The solutions that get inflicted on the small, ignorant client are rarely similar to the solutions run by a Fortune 1000. Jeff --- GoldED/2 2.42.G0615 * Origin: DB/Soft Online - Sacramento, CA (916)927-2349 (1:203/16) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: E3100005 Date: 02/28/97 From: ERNEST HINTZ Time: 08:34am \/To: MIKE BILOW (Read 8 times) Subj: Remote acces router -> Windows 95 is a fairly idiosyncratic TCP/IP platform. The best platform for -> learning things in a more standard way is Linux, which makes a great -> teaching tool. There are several books on TCP/IP, but the O'Reilly eries, -> including "TCP/IP System Administration," and the Addison-Wesley -> three-volume set "TCP/IP Illustrated" by W. Richard Stevens (and, for vol. -> 2, Gary Wright) are what I usually recommend. Also excellent, although ot -> at all specific to TCP/IP, is the "LAN Times Encyclopedia of Networking," -> edited by Sheldon. (There are othe "Encyclopedia of Networking" titles, but -> the LAN Times one is what I specifically recommend.) -> -> If you can't find these books locally, Computer Literacy Bookshops will have -> them all on hand ("http://www.clbooks.com"). Thanks... If my memory serves me correctly CLB is just down the peninsula, from us... ACTUALLY, what I was looking for was just a FAQ, to give me a taste and some simple basics... This is the reason I was intending to try it with WIN95. I appreciate your input about Linux. Seems we always come back to old, meaning UNIX and SCSI, somehow nothing has new has come along to blow these away, though this is not taking away from their improvement which of course has kept these as leaders. Couple of more questions, one to reasure my understanding of the basic concept. FULL DUPLEX, as I understand, it is using 10baseT 4 wires instead of two. For other reasons we replaced a 3COM 3C590 with a COGENT 960, on the server. The server speed has increased, besides the experience that when other WStations request or work, there is no drag. QUESTION, why? It was our impression that 3COM590 did parallel processing, actually one of the chips on the card even says that. Is our experience or results with the COGENT singular or just by chance unique? How much gain would it be to change out the WStation cards from 3COM or Intel to COGENT cards? QUESTION: We have been told that on a server the fast drive should be first drive, bootup, LAN, etc.. Though we have some ideas why, I felt that with your experience you could put in a fewer and better words. QUESTION: Why would one stay with thin or thick cable, when it seems that most of the market has gone 10baseT? Our question is based in that a larger computer company in the SF Bay area continues to expand in thin/thick cable, and it would seem that money is not the issue, nor are they short of knowledge, etc.. I have asked a few of this company's employees, one who happens to be an engineer and I feel we either got a brush off answer or these parties just do not know, or there is no reason. Any ideas Mike?? ernest.hintz@hints.com --- PCBoard (R) v15.21/M 100 * Origin: HINTS (1:125/467) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: E3100006 Date: 02/28/97 From: JOHN DONOHUE Time: 12:44pm \/To: BONG BENITEZ (Read 8 times) Subj: Dos/95 Lan BB> This is regarding my earlier question on items needed to BB> connect a DOS and a Win 95 computer. BB> The hardware components have already been installed. BB> Win 95 Computer detected the card. I have Network Neighborhood Icon. BB> The DOS Computer detected the card using its diagnostics software. BB> Got a copy Microsoft Client for DOS (MSCLIENT.ZIP). BB> Unzipped MSCLIENT.ZIP and ran SETUP.EXE. BB> Any ideas why the Win 95 can't see the DOS computer and vise-versa ? Ya know, I had exactly that problem when I set up the DOS clients using MS Client for Dos 3.0 to get some 286's to use drive resources on our NT ervers. Funny story, if it hadn't take me so long to figure it out (Duh!) ====== When we setup our NT3.51 and 4.0 servers, and our Windows for Workgroup pc's I blitzed the NWLINK protocol in ControlPanel/Network/Protocols (setup defaults to NWLINK and NETBEUI) because there wasn't a single Netware machine in the organization. I saw no reason to have it using memory. On the machines that were Internet servers or clients, I added TCP/IP. Everything's chugging along fine. Some months later, I decide to take a shot at hooking up a couple of 286's. Run the MSClient 3.0 install (WITHOUT following every menu option all the way to the bottom), reboot the 286's to get the client to take effect. Get the network login. OK. Tell it to NET USE D: \\servername\resource. Get 'Server not responding' or somesuch. Sound familiar? ;-) ===== For some truly brain-dead reason, MSClient 3.0 seems to default to only installing the NWLINK protocol. That's why my 286 couldn't attach a drive; the 286 was speaking NWLINK, the NT servers were speaking NETBEUI, and couldn't understand each other. After I added the NETBEUI protocol to the 286, it all worked fine. Well, except that, while I could find an 'add protocol' in MSClient setup, I couldn't find a 'remove protocol' in MSClient setup. Had to go edit the system files with a text editor to remove NWLINK. (hey, it's a 286, I want EVERY byte or RAM I can salvage) ;-) --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: McAllen Memorial Library FidoNet (1:397/5258) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: E3100007 Date: 02/28/97 From: RICHARD SHIFLETT Time: 07:15am \/To: ALL (Read 8 times) Subj: Unix Howdy all! I remember reading a post concerning someone releasing Unix software for free. It was part of some effort to proliferate Unix throughout the general public. It has been several months since the posting, hence my ignorance on the subject. At any rate, I am interested in playing with it. Is anyone aware of where I can pick it up from? And what version is it? Many thanks! Richard Shiflett --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: Snipe's Castle - 1:388/26 [MO] (1:388/26) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: E3100008 Date: 02/28/97 From: BRUCE LANE Time: 10:45pm \/To: DAVID DESROSIERS (Read 9 times) Subj: Re: novel David Desrosiers woke half the neighborhood at 03:12 by yelling at Bruce Lane about Re: novel... DD> Novell talks TCP now? Is this a new thing they've added? I DD> thought it was all IPX/SPX... Yep, you can add a module that will speak TCP/IP. It's not the neatest implementation in the world, from what I've heard, but it does work. It's available at least down to version 3.11 (possible earlier, definitely later). DD> installed on the VMS side of things. It's better to use raw TCP though, DD> even though it's a lot more expensive to license for VMS than it is for DD> PC platforms. I know. DEC is so darn greedy, and they have no sense of responsibility at all where surplusing equipment is concerned. They crush and dispose of far more equipment than they should, IMO, and they are (from my few contacts with them) outright hostile to hobbyists (asking them to pay full retail for outdated software, hardware, and docs, assuming it's still available). Best of luck! ==Bruce ... TV Truth: Explosions in space make noise. --- Blue Wave/RA v2.30 * Origin: No drones allowed... (1:343/272) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: E3200000 Date: 03/01/97 From: RALPH HARTWELL Time: 12:24pm \/To: MIKE BILOW (Read 8 times) Subj: Dos/95 Lan MB> BB> its diagnostics software. Got a copy Microsoft Client for MB> BB> DOS (MSCLIENT.ZIP). Where can I obtain a copy of this file? Thanks, Ralph --- QMPro 1.53 Clinton - "America's Going Out Of Business Sale" --- WILDMAIL!/WC v4.12 * Origin: The Energy Machine (1:396/35.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: E3300000 Date: 03/01/97 From: BRUCE LANE Time: 10:45pm \/To: RICHARD SHIFLETT (Read 8 times) Subj: Re: Unix Richard Shiflett woke half the neighborhood at 03:12 by yelling at All about Unix... RS> Howdy all! RS> I remember reading a post concerning someone releasing Unix software RS> for free. It was part of some effort to proliferate Unix throughout RS> the general public. Yes, that was SCO (The Santa Cruz Operation) that was doing that. They released a... let's see... two-user?... copy of their SCO Open Server and Desktop. The license was free, and the media (CD-ROM) was only about $20. If you have Internet access, check out www.sco.com for details. They may still be offering this package. Failing that, there are other 'free' Unix systems out there, such as FreeBSD and Linux. ==Bruce ... "Fine. Next time, I'll collect the gold, and -you- can die..." - Draco --- Blue Wave/RA v2.30 * Origin: No drones allowed... (1:343/272) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: E3400000 Date: 03/01/97 From: DISEN ABELLA Time: 09:59pm \/To: RICHARD PEER (Read 8 times) Subj: XMSNETX.EXE require HMA? -> DA> Does the Novell Netware DOS client XMSNETX.EXE use XMS extended -> DA> memory or does it need the HMA (which unfortunately is not -> DA> available when you've loaded DOS=HIGH)? -> XMSNETX.exe uses the HMA. For this to work DOS must be loaded low as -> only one programme can use the HMA area. In that case, it doesn't seem worthwhile to use XMSNETx.EXE since DOS loaded low occupies more conventional memory than NETx.EXE (the docs say that XMSNETx.EXE will free up about 34kb of conv. memory, in my experience, DOS in HMA frees more than that, 45kb or more perhaps, depending on the other DOS buffers, etc. options?) Isn't Novell writing a _REAL_ XMSNETx.EXE that can do like its EMSNETx.EXE but not place them in the HMA or EMS, instead in XMS (extended) memory? This would seem to be a better option. :)/-\ * Origin: The File Bank BBS! Makati. Philippines. 63-2-896-3116 (6:751/321) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: E3400001 Date: 03/03/97 From: ANDREW BARROS Time: 03:58pm \/To: JOHN DONOHUE (Read 8 times) Subj: Tcp-ip and Dial-up Netowrking Hello All, Sorry for the lack of information I am running Win 95. My ISP assigns dynamic IP's. I need TCPIP beacuse of a Linux machine on the same segment. In the control panel I have my local dns. -Andrew --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Enlightened Board (703) 370-9528 (1:109/615) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: E3400002 Date: 03/04/97 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 03:12am \/To: RICHARD SHIFLETT (Read 8 times) Subj: Unix Richard Shiflett wrote in a message to All: RS> I remember reading a post concerning someone releasing Unix RS> software for free. It was part of some effort to RS> proliferate Unix throughout the general public. You are thinking of SCO. Of course, Linux might be a more useful option. RS> It has been several months since the posting, hence my RS> ignorance on the subject. At any rate, I am interested in RS> playing with it. Is anyone aware of where I can pick it up RS> from? And what version is it? Try "http://www.sco.com". -- Mike xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Monika Laud SCO TEL: 408/427-7421 FAX: 408/427-5448 monikal@sco.com UNIX UNBOUND! SCO Provides FREE UNIX System Licenses To Students, Educators and UNIX Enthusiasts Around The World SCO Forum96, Santa Cruz, CA (August 19, 1996) -- In a move that empowers students, educators and UNIX system enthusiasts with free access to the worlds most popular business computing environment, SCO today announced plans to provide a free license to use its popular UNIX systems, including SCO OpenServer and SCO UnixWare, to anyone in the world who wants to use them for educational and non-commercial use to enable the evaluation and understanding of UNIX systems. The bold move has far-reaching implications for the future of the UNIX platform and marks the stunning public debut of SCOs stewardship of the UNIX system. It also represents the first time in more than 20 years that the owner of UNIX technology has provided the operating system free of charge to the public. Alok Mohan, SCOs president and CEO, said, "This is only the second time in UNIXs 25-year history that the owner of the technology has made this offer. The last time this happened, a $60-billion-dollar industry was born." The UNIX system was in its infancy when AT&T Bell Labs gave it away for free to colleges and universities to help with research and development projects. Soon, thousands of students were learning to program on UNIX systems. After graduation, they took that knowledge into the corporate world, building a $60-billion-dollar industry. The legacy of AT&Ts gift to universities includes the Internet, the World Wide Web, multiprocessing, and much more. Today, the UNIX system is the software engine that processes trillions of dollars of business transactions around the world. "SCO believes it is time to return the favor," said Mohan, "and deliver the result of more than 20 years of technical innovation back to educators and students worldwide. With the explosive growth of the Internet and the breadth of development tools for UNIX systems available today, one can only imagine what this new generation will do with this open operating system platform." What the Students Will Get The availability of free UNIX system licenses begins with SCO OpenServer license, followed closely by a free SCO UnixWare license. The initial availability of a free SCO OpenServer license provides UNIX system enthusiasts with access to a high-end, commercial quality UNIX product that would normally be out of reach due to price constraints. Students, as well as professionals who use the UNIX system at work, now have an affordable means of running the UNIX platform at home, enabling them to create a home BBS or web site. Whats In Free SCO OpenServer? With a Free SCO OpenServer license, users interested in UNIX technology have access to a fully functional, single user version of the SCO OpenServer Desktop System, which includes SCO Doctor Lite, and SCO ARCserve/Open Lite from Cheyenne, and the SCO OpenServer Development System. The SCO OpenServer Desktop is an advanced, single user UNIX operating system that delivers RISC workstation capabilities and performance on cost-effective Intel architecture platforms. The Desktop System integrates a powerful 32-bit, multitasking, X/Open UNIX system compliant operating system with networking, graphics, and Internet facilities. The Development System includes a set of state-of-the-art C compilers, debuggers, application programming interfaces, and libraries for developing applications. How to Get It Free SCO OpenServer license can be ordered and licensed via the Internet. To place a media order or acquire a license to use the software, go to: http://www3.sco.com/Products. Free SCO OpenServer is licensed for educational and non-commercial use. The license is free of charge. The product media, if desired, costs $19. About SCO SCO is the worlds leading supplier of UNIX server operating systems, and a leading provider of client-integration software that integrates Windows PCs and other clients with UNIX servers from all major vendors. SCO Business Critical UNIX Servers run the critical, day-to-day operations of large branch organizations in retail, finance, telecom, and government, as well as corporate departments and small to medium-sized businesses of every kind. SCO sells and supports its products through a worldwide network of distributors, resellers, systems integrators, and OEMs. For more information, see SCOs WWW home page at: http://www.sco.com. # # # SCO, The Santa Cruz Operation, the SCO logo, SCO OpenServer, SCO UnixWare, and SCO Doctor are trademarks or registered trademarks of The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. in the USA and other countries. UNIX is a registered trademark in the United States an other countries, licensed exclusively through X/Open Company Limited. Cheyenne and ARCserve are registered trademarks of Cheyenne Software, Inc. All other brand or product names are or may be trademarks of, and are used to identify products or services of, their respective owners. --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107)