--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: DBF00001 Date: 07/09/96 From: KURT WEISKE Time: 09:43pm \/To: MIKE BILOW (Read 6 times) Subj: 100 base-t Mike Bilow wrote in a message to Kurt Weiske: KW> Apparently, the FDDI ring may be causing fragmentation of KW> the packets, and adding latency. In this case, maybe fast KW> ethernet will work better. MB> What kind of protocol are you using? This should not happen unless MB> the interfaces are misconfigured. I could see messing this up with MB> TCP/IP, but it should be impossible to get wrong with IPX. This is all TCP/IP, actually - it's outside our firewall, supporting our WWW machines. --- timEd/386 1.10+ * Origin: realitycheckBBS - San Francisco, CA +1 415 666 0339 (1:161/418) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: DBF00002 Date: 07/09/96 From: KURT WEISKE Time: 09:46pm \/To: MIKE BILOW (Read 6 times) Subj: Lantastic 4.1 under OS/2 v.2.1 Mike Bilow wrote in a message to Kurt Weiske: MB> For one thing, you have to do it with the "boot from drive A:" MB> model. You don't actually need a drive A:, since you can make an MB> image disk with the VMDISK utility. However, you then need the MB> FSFILTER.SYS driver to be able to see OS/2 disk volumes, and you MB> may need the FSACCESS utility to remap the drive letters correctly. MB> If you want XMS or EMS access in that VDM, you have to load the MB> OS/2 MDOS replacements for HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE. All of which took about 5-10 minutes, one time. Not a big deal. Lantastic does require that you set the AE-2 card into 8 bit mode, however, which for me required changing the jumper and moving IRQs. If you're already using an 8-bit IRQ, it's no problem. MB> The big MB> limitation, however, is that only the one window will be able to MB> see the network, and neither OS/2 nor Windows programs can be run MB> in it. Which the original author already claimed wasn't a biggie. --- timEd/386 1.10+ * Origin: realitycheckBBS - San Francisco, CA +1 415 666 0339 (1:161/418) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: DBF00003 Date: 07/09/96 From: KURT WEISKE Time: 09:48pm \/To: DAVID SMITH (Read 6 times) Subj: Lantastic 4.1 under OS/2 v.2.1 David Smith wrote in a message to Mike Bilow: DS> Understood, trust me... I'm using a 386dx40 benched at 65.2mhz... DS> Faster than a lot of 486's... And I can just upgrade the chip when DS> I get the funds later... WE'RE NOT WORTHY! WE'RE NOT WORTHY! --- timEd/386 1.10+ * Origin: realitycheckBBS - San Francisco, CA +1 415 666 0339 (1:161/418) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: DBF00004 Date: 07/10/96 From: BILL GORDON Time: 09:15pm \/To: ALL (Read 6 times) Subj: Gripes I am really steamed!! For 2 1/2 years, I have been successfully (and happily) running my personal machines (2) using Lantastic 6.0 as my network. One of the machines is a 486SX25 w/4 megs of ram, running DOS 6.22. The other one s a 486DX33 w/8 megs of ram, running DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11. I have had NO problems with my network until I tried to install Windows95. That killed all my work for the last 2 years. Now, I cannot get it set up to run, neither machine will talk to the other, and MicroSoft will offer NO help unless I pay an arm and a leg for it. I am totally disgusted with Win95 and am nearly to the point of encouraging every one of my computer customers to AVOID it at all costs. Windows 3.11 seems to work, and I will leave it at that. Is there anyone who has had success with the problems I am having?? I will accept any help from anyone who has Lantastic running with the combination I have, or something similar. My voice number is 864-422-1192 (evenings), and 864-288-0000 (days). anks.. --- * Origin: *Square One ...the place to begin (864) 422-9017 (1:3639/22) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: DBG00000 Date: 07/11/96 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 02:24pm \/To: BILL GORDON (Read 5 times) Subj: Gripes Bill Gordon wrote in a message to All: BG> I am really steamed!! For 2 1/2 years, I have been successfully BG> (and happily) running my personal machines (2) using Lantastic BG> 6.0 as my network. One of the machines is a 486SX25 w/4 megs BG> of ram, running DOS 6.22. The other one is a 486DX33 w/8 megs BG> of ram, running DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11. OK, certainly a common configuration. BG> I have had NO problems with my network until I tried to install BG> Windows95. That killed all my work for the last 2 years. Now, BG> I cannot get it set up to run, neither machine will talk to the BG> other, and MicroSoft will offer NO help unless I pay an arm and BG> a leg for it. I am totally disgusted with Win95 and am nearly BG> to the point of encouraging every one of my computer customers BG> to AVOID it at all costs. Windows 3.11 seems to work, and I BG> will leave it at that. Well, avoiding Windows 95 is my usual consulting advice! Seriously, you have a couple of options. The official answer is that you can buy an upgrade to Lantastic for Windows 95, and then everything will work again; the truth is that this is an economically stupid course of action for a two machine network. The unofficial answer is that you can supposedly install Windows 95 successfully over Lantastic for DOS, choosing no networking support during the Windows 95 installation, and Lantastic will keep working; I have never done this, but there are people on the LANTASTI echo who have. What is really going on here? Microsoft wrote native networking support into Windows 95, but it is incompatible with Lantastic. If you were running a whole network on Lantastic with a lot of machines, you would find yourself dragged kicking and screaming into either a costly upgrade of the Lantastic software or a costly upgrade of the whole network to Windows NT. With only two machines, you should seriously consider replacing Lantastic with the native Windows 95 networking support if you are going to run Windows 95. You might feel that this is caving in to coercion, but it may be the most cost effective alternative. Other than that, I think your only realistic option is staying with Windows 3.11. BG> Is there anyone who has had success with the problems I am BG> having?? I will accept any help from anyone who has Lantastic BG> running with the combination I have, or something similar. You really should try the LANTASTI echo. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: DBG00001 Date: 07/11/96 From: W. MIKE FITZGERALD Time: 05:08pm \/To: BILL GORDON (Read 5 times) Subj: Re: Gripes -=> Quoting Bill Gordon To All <=- -=> Regarding : Gripes <=- BG> I am really steamed!! For 2 1/2 years, I have been successfully (and happil BG> running my personal machines (2) using Lantastic 6.0 as my network. One of BG> the machines is a 486SX25 w/4 megs of ram, running DOS 6.22. The other one BG> a 486DX33 w/8 megs of ram, running DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.11. I have had N BG> problems with my network until I tried to install Windows95. That killed a BG> my work for the last 2 years. Now, I cannot get it set up to run, either BG> machine will talk to the other, and MicroSoft will offer NO help unless I p BG> an arm and a leg for it. I am totally disgusted with Win95 and am nearly t BG> the point of encouraging every one of my computer customers to AVOID it t BG> all costs. Windows 3.11 seems to work, and I will leave it at that. I know EXACTLY how you feel....I feel the same way about IBM...for the same reason! I spent $1,400 dollars on Warp Server, had one little problem I couldn't figure out...called tech support, they said $190 more and you can have the answer to your questions.... Geerrrr BG> Is there anyone who has had success with the problems I am having?? I will BG> accept any help from anyone who has Lantastic running with the combination BG> have, or something similar. The trick to network on the dos level with Win95, is to have the nos nstalled and setup under dos, and NOT letting win95 do any of the networking...remove all the protocols and adpter from the networking section in the control anel. Boot to dos and make sure you have networking...if not, fix it, or re-install LANtastic and set it up again the way you had it....then let your win95 machine boot win95, and all your drive mappings should be there. If this doesn't do it....contact me, and I'll help some more Mike 1:343/266 mike@mail.compuconn.com --- Join PsychicNet Now! * Origin: Psychic Voyages - I know what you're thinking! (1:343/266) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: DBG00002 Date: 07/11/96 From: DARRELL BOWMAN Time: 11:06pm \/To: W. MIKE FITZGERALD (Read 5 times) Subj: Re: WIN95 and TCP/IP //Just before the photon torpedoes from the Excalibur destroyed //his ship, W. Mike Fitzgerald bellowed about Re: WIN95 and TCP/IP: DB> Here's a question... DB> DB> I'm getting ready to slap a D-Link PCMCIA Ethernet card into a laptop DB> running Win95. I want to connect this to a WFWG net running Microsoft DB> TCP/IP32. What do I need to put on the Win95 machine to get it to run DB> TCP/IP? WM>You shouldn't need anything else. Win95 has all the protocols built-in. Ohh??? It has TCP/IP built in?? Excalibur Darrell Bowman Fidonet 1:3666/113 Internet bowmandl@smoky.dhr.state.nc.us darrell.bowman@f113.n3666.z1.fidonet.org * 1st 2.00 #6680 * Silk was invented so that women could go naked in clothes --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: Cer'rin BBS - Hickory NC - (704)328-2217 (1:3666/113) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: DBG00003 Date: 07/11/96 From: DARRELL BOWMAN Time: 11:06pm \/To: W. MIKE FITZGERALD (Read 5 times) Subj: Names //Just before the photon torpedoes from the Excalibur destroyed //his ship, W. Mike Fitzgerald bellowed about Re: Personal Netware: MB> Does anybody know if the windows version of Personal Network supports in9 MB> if there is a version of Personal Netware for Win95? WM>You can have any kind of networking you want under WIN95, just have it >installed BEFORE you install Win95, then don't let it install any tworkin Hi Mike,... This doesn't have a thing to do with LAN, but I gotta' ask you this... Did you ever read any of the Wingman series of books by Mack Malone?? One of the characters was Mike Fitzgerald :-) Excalibur a.k.a. Tanis Leatherwood a.k.a. Jerle Langthorn a.k.a. The Raven Knight of the Realm of Ravenwood Watcher and Protector of the Outer Rim * 1st 2.00 #6680 * You're not a complete idiot, there seem to be parts issin --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: Cer'rin BBS - Hickory NC - (704)328-2217 (1:3666/113) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: DBH00000 Date: 07/12/96 From: MIKE BILOW Time: 03:44pm \/To: DARRELL BOWMAN (Read 6 times) Subj: WIN95 and TCP/IP Darrell Bowman wrote in a message to W. Mike Fitzgerald: DB> I'm getting ready to slap a D-Link PCMCIA Ethernet card into a laptop DB> running Win95. I want to connect this to a WFWG net running Microsoft DB> TCP/IP32. What do I need to put on the Win95 machine to get it to run DB> TCP/IP? WM>You shouldn't need anything else. Win95 has all the protocols built-in. DB> Ohh??? It has TCP/IP built in?? Yes. It's essentially the same TCP/IP stack that was available free for Windows for Workgroups, but it's in the box with Windows 95. -- Mike --- * Origin: N1BEE BBS +1 401 944 8498 V.34/V.FC/V.32bis/HST16.8 (1:323/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 193 LAN Ref: DBH00001 Date: 07/12/96 From: DARRELL BOWMAN Time: 11:24pm \/To: ALL (Read 6 times) Subj: W95 and WFWG TCP/IP Well, after reading Bill's comments about his Gripes with Win95. I'll pose my own question too. I've got a Pentium notebook with W95 on it, and I've put in a D-Link 650CT PCMCIA card in it. Today, I finally got around to trying to run the install that came with the card. It didn't work, when I restarted the system, the card didn't initialize and the system recognized it as a new card and wanted the driver,... so I chose select another driver and chose the D-Link 650 right from the list that W95 gave me. After some fanagaling around with the network setting, I selected TCP/IP in addition to IPX/SPX and NetBeui protocols, set up my IP address, set up my DNS stuff, all just like I have it on 15 other machines running WFWG. When I try to click on the "Entire Network" icon under Network World, I get an error saying that it can't browse the network, check the help area under Troubleshooting Networks. I got nowhere. The only thing that I can think of is maybe there's a conflict somewhere with the addressing or IRQ. I thought that I set the card up with IRQ 9/2 when I set it up, but when I look at the card under System from Control Panel, the resources say that it is IRQ 10. Under Network, the Driver type is Enhanced NDIS, the binding are TCP/IP, IPX/SPX and NetBeui. Under the TCP/IP properties, I have the binding set for the Client for Microsoft Networks. The net consist solely of WFWG machines running TCP/IP_32 and an IBM RISC/6000 and a Pentium running SCO. There is a router to the NC state network and out to the Internet, and a router card in a MUX acting as a bridge to another or our offices. Hmmm... I guess when I was thinking about that IRQ 9/2 thing, that was for a setup for an NE2000 compatible that got set up inadvertantly, and I've since deleted it. Anybody got any ideas?? I'd appreciate a response here an via internet mail if you have access. Thanks. Excalibur Darrell Bowman Fidonet 1:3666/113 Internet bowmandl@smoky.dhr.state.nc.us darrell.bowman@f113.n3666.z1.fidonet.org * 1st 2.00 #6680 * Say it with flowers-- send a cactus and say, "Up yours!" --- Renegade v5-11 Exp * Origin: Cer'rin BBS - Hickory NC - (704)328-2217 (1:3666/113)