--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 116 ZYXEL MODEMS Ref: CCV00010 Date: 08/25/95 From: MIKE POSTON Time: 01:37pm \/To: STEVE SHARP (Read 2 times) Subj: ZFax 3.25 and 4.01 Hello again Steve! >Doug very kindly crashed ZFAX325 to me at his expense today. Doug does an admirable job with the echo (patience, civility, accuracy of info/help). That's really going "the extra mile"! >He managed a 24000 connect from I assume his new ZyXEL to my >locally made rockwell based V34 modem (which is a terrible modem). >Not bad for across the Pacific! Superb! BTW - if you experience any problems with PASSWORD input in ZFAX, enter 9999 c/r. Seems that part of the code got a bit askew between v3.1x and 3.2x. Take care, Mike --- * Origin: The Sounding Board - Brookside, MO - (816)361-9294 (1:280/32) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 116 ZYXEL MODEMS Ref: CCV00011 Date: 08/25/95 From: DAVID POON Time: 06:34am \/To: BOB JUGE (Read 2 times) Subj: ZyXel at 33k6? Bob Juge wrote in a message to David Poon: BJ> David Poon wrote in a message to Bob Juge: BJ> The improved connect speeds are only achieved when calling V34+ BJ> to V34+, Wes... DP> Bob, I think what Wes Newell was trying to say is that, the DP> V.34+ firmware for the Courier comes with improvements on V.34 DP> as well as V.FC compatibility. BJ> [...] DP> Now I don't know why Floyd or whoever claims that V.34+ DP> increases connection rates or what, but the V.34+ code improved DP> V.34 connection rates which had already been implemented in the DP> new Sportster ROM code are available before V.34+ firmware was DP> released for the Courier. The Sportster can not connect at DP> V.34+, but its new firmware has V.34 improvements that allow DP> higher connection rates than previous codes. The 12/02/94 DP> Courier firmware is no match against the new Sportster V.34 DP> 4/18/95 firmware when it comes to V.34 connection.. BJ> The official USR V.34+ announcement states what Floyd and I BJ> have been claiming, and Joe Frankiewicz has affirmed the BJ> fact - the V.34+ enhancement to the Courier's V.34 code does BJ> in fact allow improved connects at speeds lower than BJ> 31200/33600 but only between other V.34+ devices. It is But then, how do you explain the fact that it will sometimes connect 2400bps higher with some other modems other than USR itself with the V.34+. In fact, it connects 2400bps higher than before with another Sportster with 4/18/95 rom, or with a Courier downlink of mine running the 12/02/94 code or with an AT&T DataPort Express V.34? BJ> *NOT* just a factor of enhanced V.34 code, but specifically BJ> a benefit of V.34+. The other enhancements to the code Now, what I don't understand is that, if it's the benefit of V.34+, why my Courier with V.34+ can connect 2400bps higher than before with my Sportster with V.34 and 4/18/95 rom? And why is it that my Courier can NOW connect with my ISP at 28.8k when before it would shift down to 26.4k all the time or connect at 26.4k all the time, when my Sportster connects with my ISP's AT&T at 28.8k all the time? Why is it then when I call Stuttgard, Germany, or Sydney, Australia, my Courier connects at 21.6k with a Hayes V.34 uplink(s) using the Courier's 12/02/94 code when in fact, it is now connecting at 24k with those same uplink(s) using the new V.34+ 7/08/95 code? If you look closely, they are V.34 modems, not V.34+. They only connect with my USR using the V.34 protocol. And if so, why is it that the performance were increased? And why did it happen to the Sportster 2-3 months earlier with their 4/18/95 that yielded the same results? I mean, I just can't believe the fact that the increase in connection rates from the Courier has to be attributed to something with the V.34+ protocol implemented by USR.. I don't think that suddenly, my lines became so good right away overnight. So, to satisfy my curiosity on this, I then phoned USR (both Sportster and Courier) to see what they have to say about this. BJ> Believe it or not, Courier and Sportster development are not BJ> in lock-step. In fact, one has little to do with the other BJ> (two entirely different development teams at USR). Yeah as I was told by USR. DP> Even the USR techs (had to PAY and STAY ONLINE for 30-40min on DP> the Sportster help line) agreed with me that the improved V.34 DP> code and V.FC compatibility were implemented in both 4/18/95 DP> and the final release of the V.34+. So if it came from the DP> horse's mouth, then it is true isn't it?? BJ> The Sportster help people don't have a clue when it comes to BJ> the Courier product line (which has its own help line). I also phoned the Courier tech support just for curiosity.. BJ> Even so, I think I'd assign just a little more credence to BJ> the developer in preference to a help desk person any day. Well, I don't know if the help desk person answers this or not, but when I phoned, they were rude to tell me at first that they won't talk to me and will only transfer me to a tech for questions relating to Sportster stuff.. I've talked to 2 techs (mainly on Sportster) and 1 tech later on on the Courier line. 2 techs told me that they added enhancements to the V.34 protocol that weren't implemented before because they are either optional or they will be implemented when the base V.34 protocol has been debugged free prior to 4/18/95. And ofcourse, they would not admit that SDS was a defect at all on the Sportster. And the V.34+ code that the USR Courier line tech also told me that the enhancement of V.34+ code is attributed as well to the implementation of optional standard(s) for V.34 plus something more.. Now if the 2 departments are singing almost the same tune, I was then given the impression that the V.34 code in the latest Sportster with the latest rom is an enhancement to the old code with improvements that weren't there before.. Now if what you are saying is true, then I guess, the right hand doesn't know what's the left hand is doing in USR.. I mean the tech department.. And if that is so, then what in heck should I pay LD charges on the Sportster line to talk to a bunch of fools who know next to nothing about their own products? Cheers! -=Team OS/2 Member=- [InterNet] USR Sportster V34 <-> Miramax GATEWAY =- [ N1: Courier 33.6K+ / N2: ZyXEL 2864 28.8K / N3: Telebit WorldBlazer 23.0K] --- FastEcho/2+RA+BINK+Squish+GIGO * Origin: .\\iramax BBS * Vancouver, Canada * 28.8K V34/ZyXEL (1:153/7091) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 116 ZYXEL MODEMS Ref: CCY00000 Date: 08/26/95 From: MIKE KASPER Time: 12:00pm \/To: EDWARD OZOGAR (Read 2 times) Subj: Sysop deal - not Hello Edward, Wednesday August 23 1995 08:17, Edward Ozogar wrote to Wolfgang Weck: EO> Wolfgang Weck wrote in a message to Doug Palmer: >> MODEL # RETAIL PRICE SYSOP PRICE >> >> Elite 2864 (Upgradable to ISDN) $ 549 $ 369 >> Elite 2864I-S/T (ISDN w/o NT-1) $ 699 $ 469 >> Elite 2864I-U (ISDN w/NT-1) $ 749 $ 509 >> Omni 288S (Serial Interface) $ 399 $ 249 >> Omni 288P (Parallel Interface) $ 399 $ 249 >> >> ZyXEL U-1496+/19.2 External $ 749 $ 450 >> ZyXEL RS-1602 Rack Chassis $1299 $ 900 >> ZyXEL U-1496R/19.2 Rackmount $ 729 $ 429 >> ZyXEL RS-1602E Rack Chassis $ 799 $ 499 >> ZyXEL U-1496RE/16.8 Rackmount $ 349 $ 249 EO> Hi Wolfgang, EO> The above sysop prices look like a joke to me. A Zyxel U-1496e+ for EO> $450. Ha ha ha ha.... I can buy a USR's 33.6 external for half that. I EO> would think the U-1496e+ might sell at $100. right now. I remember uying EO> my U1496e+ back when Zyxel was adverising that it would be upgradable to EO> 28.8 at a later date. EO> Now if Zyxel would offer a resonable upgrade price of let's say $50 for EO> coverting from a U-1496e+ 19.2 external to a 28.8, I might bite! EO> Greetings, EO> Ed EO> -+- FM 1.02 (DarkNet Host) EO> + Origin: Graphical Edge I, (915) 822 2791 (1:381/134) If you already own a Zyxel, you get a new one for $20 less than the Sysop "deal". And keep your old one. Big "deal". I'll stick with USR, although I still have my trusty 1496E in reserve.... Regards, -Mike ... Memory Manager: Something I need more than my computer does. --- GoldED/2 2.50.A0715+ * Origin: The Owl Sanctuary 360-837-1803 V34+ Washougal, WA. (1:105/183) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 116 ZYXEL MODEMS Ref: CCY00001 Date: 08/24/95 From: TONY ELROD Time: 08:10am \/To: DICK ROWDEN (Read 2 times) Subj: 2864 Re:2864 DR>Howdy Doug: DR> DR>Need some help with the new Elite 2864. Got it up and running without DR>any problem and now find that I cant make any contact with any Hayes DR>modem. It works just fine with any USR, if it's a 28.8 that's just DR>what we hook up at. The Texasnet internet providers use All USR'S and DR>the internet hooks up at 28.8 every time. I'm an existing Zyxel owner waiting to see if it's worth the money to upgrade. Could you answer a few questions? I'm curious about your 28.8 connects "every time". Do you have really good phone lines there? Have you run any other 28.8's (brands) to compare? Please let us all know if the Hayes trouble is rectified... 08/24/95 at 08:10AM ... Tony Elrod (770) 664-5106(GA-EST) Internet - to: tony.elrod@lightspeed.com tony.elrod@swsbbs.com == "Bother", said Pooh as the police closed in. X CMPQwk 1.42 # 2073 --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: Atlanta's OS/2 UG BBS/FAX 404-471-1549 USR v.* (1:133/9009) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 116 ZYXEL MODEMS Ref: CCY00002 Date: 08/24/95 From: TONY ELROD Time: 08:13am \/To: ANDY MILLON (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: ZyXEL 28.8 Models - AM> SB> Anyone wanna Spread there information on my desktop? Im VERY AM> SB> close to buying the 28.8 .. and the only thing holding me back AM> SB> is probably the price, and the lack of consumer information AM> SB> which I enjoy -.. AM>Excellent connects. Excellent transfers. Excellent fax receive. had any trouble connecting with Hayes? 08/24/95 at 08:13AM ... Tony Elrod (770) 664-5106(GA-EST) Internet - to: tony.elrod@lightspeed.com tony.elrod@swsbbs.com == Hate Kansas. Hate You. Took Dog. - Dorothy X CMPQwk 1.42 # 2073 --- Maximus/2 3.00 * Origin: Atlanta's OS/2 UG BBS/FAX 404-471-1549 USR v.* (1:133/9009) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 116 ZYXEL MODEMS Ref: CCY00003 Date: 08/27/95 From: JOEL ERICKSON Time: 06:24pm \/To: JOE SCHWEIER (Read 2 times) Subj: Zyxel voice JS> Try 9999 Yup, that got it. Thanks. - Joel --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: BABBAGE'S BS (613)821-7998 (1:243/52) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 116 ZYXEL MODEMS Ref: CCY00004 Date: 08/27/95 From: JOEL ERICKSON Time: 06:25pm \/To: MIKE POSTON (Read 2 times) Subj: Zyxel voice MP> Recording was a bit of a mystery to most of us - until ZyXEL put the MIC MP> circuitry and jack in the E2864's. For the U-1496 MP> models, I had the best VOX quality from calling in, MP> leaving a message of any announcement I wanted to MP> create, then renaming it and sticking it in the MP> GREETMSG subdir. That business of putting a phone MP> handset in the LINE jack of the modem and talking into MP> the earpiece never worked at my house! (I bet the MP> documentation author sat around laughing his/her butt MP> off whenever conjuring-up a mental image of us sops MP> trying it!) :) Heeee heee. Yup.. In ZFAX you can now HEAR messages through Sound Blaster, it would be nice if you could recordt messages through your sound blaster and save them as one of those message files. COULD YOU? - Joel --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: BABBAGE'S BS (613)821-7998 (1:243/52) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 116 ZYXEL MODEMS Ref: CCY00005 Date: 08/25/95 From: VADIM MAKSIMENKO Time: 10:18am \/To: HENRIK DOHLMANN (Read 2 times) Subj: Frustrated 2864 owner... Hello Henrik, On 23 Aug 1995 Henrik Dohlmann wrote to All: > HD> I've just got my ZyXEL 2864. Great. > HD> Just too bad that I have nothing but trouble with it. > But, now I'm happy, because I have solved my problem. :-) What a pleasure to answer your own messages ;-) <<< Non-valuable/obsolete stuff eliminated >>> > HD> I know some of you readers are from Denmark, and if you want to > HD> exchange information about how to get this extremely nice-looking, ut > HD> very stubborn modem to work optimally, then please drop me a note. > You're still welcome to do that, of course. > HD> Off course, all you friendly foreigners are welcome to help me, too :-) Well, these are my settings: AT&FL3N5X7&S1S42=64&W0&W1&W2&W3 and everything works just fine. I may add that DTE speed must be locked at 57600 bps or higher to gain full performance. That's all. Yours truly, Vadim Maksimenko. --- * Origin: I'll be back... (2:471/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 116 ZYXEL MODEMS Ref: CCY00006 Date: 08/23/95 From: LAM CHI LEUNG Time: 12:19am \/To: ALL (Read 2 times) Subj: modem Hi, I want to sell my Unique 14400 external modem. The price is about $350, with box and maunal. If interest, pls leave me a message! Best Regards Lam Chi Leung --- Wtp # Origin: {Sonic Alliance #76 Hub} fAKER aCADEMY! hK! (852)2882-9801 (7:1010/608) * Origin: FidoNet <-> YO!Net International Echomail Gateway (1:153/717.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 116 ZYXEL MODEMS Ref: CCY00007 Date: 08/25/95 From: ANDY MILLON Time: 09:29am \/To: DOUG PARISIAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: internal 28k zyxel -=> Doug Parisian said to Andy Millon on 21 Aug 95 17:00:00 <=- DP> Andy, Guess it means that I will either suffer the inconvenience of DP> my 4-year-old, still trusted and loved intel 400 internal fax/modem DP> wit reasonable intel fax DOS based software, or look for another DP> internal modem with voice mail, with all the protocols, 28.8K. Just curious, but why the requirement for internal modem only? I was the same way, but found the external Elite to be a breeze to setup. I needed a 16550 serial card ($16) and connected the power supply to the output jack on the computer. Now I wonder what all the fuss I put up about wanting an internal modem was all about. Besides, the externals provide more troubleshooting capability. Just something to consider. DP> I will be seriously considering the Delrina fax software with built-in DP> OCR--they offered me a 2 month trial including their sheetfeed scanne DP> and OCR package which is Xerox Bridge and apparently on a par with DP> Calera which I use now for other purposes. I found Delrina's software to be overly disk space consuming. Too many choices for what one normally expects to use in a fax session (just how many different cover sheets does one need anyway?). Calera's OCR is good, but I switched to a Logitech scanner some time ago and found the included software package to be easier to use and about the same OCR quality so I never switched back. I use ProComm+ for windows for outbound fax and Zfax (on the BBS machine) for inbound fax. IMHO, if you like (and use) Calera's OCR, don't bother with the Delrina fax software. Just get a good comm program (they all come with fax capabilities built in) that you'll also like and use. Bottom line is: if you don't like the software, you'll find yourself not using it or worse, purchasing _another_ high-priced piece of replacement software. :-( Just another way of looking at things. ;-) DP> I understand that some voice mail packages of course better than DP> others but I don't yet know what combination of software-hardware DP> makes it so. I've got no idea. Thought about putting up voice-mail on the BBS line, but considered it redundant since I've got a voice line w/answering machine, and it looks like I may have to add another voice line (business only) soon. DP> Thanks for the disappointing news--now I'll go and have a beer for DP> me, one for you, one for me, one for me, one for you, one for me... Not me. I don't drink. Wouldn't want some passenger to think their airline pilot was a lush would you? :-( But thanks for the thoughts. Andy ... "Experience comes from bad judgment." - Mark Twain. --- Blue Wave/RA v2.20 * Origin: Ready Room [KSAN] 619-673-4016 ZyXel v34/v32b/v42b/fax (1:202/519)