--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: E2J00013 Date: 02/13/97 From: DENNIS SEAVEY Time: 07:56am \/To: JOE DZURINDA (Read 1 times) Subj: The Keys JD> All I can add is that everyone should go to the Keys once. It is JD> something tosee. The only thing I didn't like about the Keys are JD> there are no natural JD> beaches (give me a gorgeous beach anytime). Of course it helps if JD> there aregood looking women on the beach also. As long as the beaches don't require rapelling down a cliff face to get to the water we're all set (sort of). Bad beaches sure limit the human scenery though. Thanks. Dennis * SPITFIRE v3.51 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: BrickYard BBS Gonic, NH 603 332-0419 (1:132/243) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: E2J00014 Date: 02/13/97 From: DENNIS SEAVEY Time: 08:09am \/To: JOE DZURINDA (Read 1 times) Subj: NASDS JD> Working as a Divemaster for PADI I can compare my NASDS open-water JD> course. Ithink the NASDS course was superior and many of the things JD> I did I had to do JD> over in PADI Advanced. I have to admit that I'm glad I started out JD> as NASDSbecause I was not a swimmer. When I started I could only JD> dog-paddle and the JD> swimming part would have killed me. It was with a lot of reluctance JD> that I hadto learn to swim to become a Divemaster, it was also my JD> last requirement to be JD> finished. I think the key to the courses are the people who support it. I have taken or observed courses in most of the major dive organizations and, although each level may have different requirements versus another, each one really seeks to put safe people in the water. The instructors and dive support system made all the difference regardless of the program. As for me I currently teach YMCA and CMAS. I my area there are good instructors for PADI, NAUI and SSI. There are also very poor representitives in each of these as well as PDIC and NASDS. Bootom line, the instructor can make or break the course regardless of how well set up it is in the first place. Blow some bubbles. Dennis * SPITFIRE v3.51 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: BrickYard BBS Gonic, NH 603 332-0419 (1:132/243) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: E2J00015 Date: 02/13/97 From: DENNIS SEAVEY Time: 08:26am \/To: JAY HANIG (Read 1 times) Subj: NASDS JH> I don't want to start a PADI vs NASDS war here, but how can you call JH> a course superior when it graduates a nonswimmer? Until you learned JH> how to swim, you were an accident waiting to happen, just as any JH> nonswimmer near the water is a danger to themselves. JH> I don't know how great the course I taught was compared to all the JH> others, but I believe it was safe. Nonswimmers never made it past JH> the first night (and a complete refund). I'm pretty sure that NASDS would not have approved of graduating a "non-swimmer" either (my second open water certification class was through NASDS). It just goes to prove my point that a particular instructor can have a great effect on the quality of the class. On a side note "instructors" who will cut corners for you may not be doing you a favor (this is not the same as considering high levels of experience as prerequisites). Oh go blow some Bubbles. Dennis * SPITFIRE v3.51 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: BrickYard BBS Gonic, NH 603 332-0419 (1:132/243) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: E2J00016 Date: 02/13/97 From: DENNIS SEAVEY Time: 08:36am \/To: JOE DZURINDA (Read 1 times) Subj: YMCA SE-> I learned to dive through a YMCA class almost 30 years ago, back when SE-> the instructors were still ripping off your masks and turning SE-> off your air during their "stress tests". I'm not sure that it made Just to make the observation here that we don't do this anymore. There was joke on this echo some time back that asked "what is the difference between a NAUI instructor and a PADI instructor? The NAUI instructor is allowed to HIT their students." I only responded to this one because I actually had someone ask me if we really do that when they were looking over my message files. Oh well. Go blow some bubbles. Dennis * SPITFIRE v3.51 --- Alexi/Mail 2.02b (#10000) * Origin: BrickYard BBS Gonic, NH 603 332-0419 (1:132/243) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: E2J00017 Date: 02/14/97 From: ROBERT ESKRIDGE Time: 07:24am \/To: STEVE ELLIOT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: Florida Diving SE> Some of the dive shops (like Capt'n Slate's) have SE> scheduled trips to the Duane on certain days of the SE> week. It's one of those wrecks that you've just SE> "gotta do" the next time that you're down here. SE> I've dove the site dozens of times and in all sorts SE> of conditions, and it's still one of my favorite wreck SE> dives. The wreck that gets my rating of BANG! (Which means you should shoot yourself if you miss this dive) is the HMS Rhone in the BVI. It's a 300 foot British mail packet that was snapped in half during a hurricane in the 1870's. The stern is in about 45' and the bow is in 80' with miscellaneous debris (boilers, cannon, etc.) scattered between. It's on a sandy bottom so even the view from snorkle level leaves you dumbstruck at the force that could snap a vessel in half. -bry --- Msg V4.5 * Origin: The Diplomat (1:124/4109) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: E2J00018 Date: 02/14/97 From: ROBERT ESKRIDGE Time: 07:34am \/To: STEVE ELLIOT (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: NASDS SE> I started snorkeling & diving before the age of 12, SE> and I've been hooked ever sinced. Now if I could SE> just convince myself to someday jump out of a perfectly SE> good airplane........ Go on out to a jump center and take a look at the aircraft that training jumps are made out of -- jumping out of them rarely contradicts your statement. I did a tandem jump out of a Cessna 172 that resembled my grandfathers beat up 63 Rambler. The seats had been ripped out and plywood floors. It had patches all over the place. We had to push the plane out to the end of the grass strip. Our ceiling had been reduced due to a storm routing traffic from DFW into our zone. The radio was out so the ground crew was supposed to show us that windspped at the ground was too high by parking a white car at the end of the strip. Perfectly good aircraft? It was an easy decision to step out of that sucker and avoid landing on the grass strip. Free fall was amazing, but hanging under the canopy for the last segement was one of the most serene things I've ever done. Sort of like a drift dive on Santa Rosa wall... (he says in a desperate attempt to bring this note back on topic) -bry --- Msg V4.5 * Origin: The Diplomat (1:124/4109) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: E2K00000 Date: 02/15/97 From: RICK MORIN Time: 08:51am \/To: JOE DZURINDA (Read 1 times) Subj: BlackBeard's Cruise Joe Dzurinda said to Rick Morin about BlackBeard's Cruise on 02-13-97 20:45 RM-> I work for Barnett Banks here in Jacksonville. We are always loo RM-> for mainframe personnel. If you are interested, send me a line a RM-> I'll get you my address for a resume. JD>Great, send me an address! Joe, Do you have an internet address or are you capable of netmail? I'd rather not put out the address here. Thanks, Rick 72114.2734@compuserve.com \\ FIDONET 1:112/101 --- * WR 1.30 [NR] * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY * Origin: The Mail Bag, Jacksonville, FL 904-645-0970 (1:112/102) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: E2K00001 Date: 02/14/97 From: ALAN BETHELL Time: 10:39pm \/To: STEVE ELLIOT (Read 1 times) Subj: COLD WATER G'day Steve, In reply to your message of 10 February 1997 AB> SE> Yup. When my body parts start turning blue, it's time AB> SE> to get out of the water and question my sanity. AB> AB>Why don't you just wear a wetsuit like the reat of us! SE> What? And spoil the fun for the lovely ladies diving with me??? Yes, and with a body like yours it's no wonder their masks fill up with water all the time, the laugh lines let the water in. :) Alan --- Xenolink 1.984, XQwk 1.6 [REG 10062] * Origin: Archer BBS 61-2-93710347 ArcherNet International (3:712/392) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: E2K00002 Date: 02/15/97 From: TODD JASPERS Time: 9:25am \/To: HARRY OLDENHUIS (Read 1 times) Subj: Anyone there? -> -> Anyone there? I haven't seen a message come through here since -> -> 1/14/97. Just want to know if the problem is the feed or there is -> -> message traffic. -> AF> There's a few of us still here ... the rest I Imagine, are cur -> AF> lost to the internet- that has become the mainstream. -> -> There is talk her In West Australia that the phone companies are -> Volume charging on the Internet in March -> So we might see some Scuba People back here. -> -> Cheers Harry . i have heard some things like that too here in the US, they wanted to charge people for using American Online... per minute.. plus the regular American Online rate... it wont happen though.... people wont let it happen. Unless of course some lame ass lawyers have something to do about it. --- InterEcho 1.19 * Origin: Law Enforcement Computer Network - (954) 430-7300 (1:369/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: E2K00003 Date: 02/15/97 From: TODD JASPERS Time: 9:26am \/To: HARRY OLDENHUIS (Read 1 times) Subj: What's New -> > I'm just checking to see what may be going on in this echo since it -> > been some time since I have been hooked in to a node. For anyone -> > wondering what happened to me just remember old divers never die, t -> > simply outgas away. -> -> SE> It's been way too quiet in here ever since people "discovered" -> SE> the Internet. The rest of us are all too busy diving. :-) -> That would be a understatement for you Steve, It would be to hot the -> to stay at home, we are all out diving to get Kool man 8) -> -> Harry . ok, hmm... i would like to start diving, i heard its really cool, but i havent given it a chance.. i live in south south florida... just above the keys.. so i live in the right place... what do i need in order to get started diving.. and what courses do i need or should i take? --- InterEcho 1.19 * Origin: Law Enforcement Computer Network - (954) 430-7300 (1:369/20)