--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: CBX00007 Date: 07/26/95 From: LOU VALLONE Time: 10:24am \/To: CARL WILSON (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Dan membership => Quoting Carl Wilson to Lou Vallone on 22 Jul 95 12:09:00 <=- CW> After participating in evacuating an injured person from the Dominican CW> Republic in Jan of 1995 I can agree with you totally. CW> A friend of mine 2 years ago was hit by a car in Columbia. We had to collect and wire $10,000 in cash to get the Air Ambulance to return him to Miami. DAN Medevac covers you 100 miles or more from home, no matter what the reason (does not have to be a diving incident) that an air transfer is medically necessary. I still say, it's the best bargain around - even for non-divers. ABCD Lou, IWWWWI ... A good organizer is the one who is careful to plan ahe --- Blue Wave/Opus v2.12 * Origin: The BULLET Inn-V.34-Pittsburgh, PA (412) 264-3175 (1:129/112.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: CBX00008 Date: 07/26/95 From: LOU VALLONE Time: 10:28am \/To: CARL WILSON (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Roatan (fantasy island) i Great revue, Carl, Thanx. However, I still prefer CoCoView - not as fancy, but much more expedient for the diving - and the meals are serve yourself. Doing the Prince Albert is a breeze with the CoCo set-up and is my favorite pre-dawn dive there. BCNU, Lou, IWWWWI VALLONE@genesis.duq.edu ... [\] The best regulator on the market is common sense. [\] --- Blue Wave/Opus v2.12 * Origin: The BULLET Inn-V.34-Pittsburgh, PA (412) 264-3175 (1:129/112.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: CBX00009 Date: 07/26/95 From: LOU VALLONE Time: 10:32am \/To: NORMAND MORIN (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Calif. Shark Attack => Quoting Normand Morin to Lou Vallone on 21 Jul 95 21:38:52 <=- NM> Was it near Santa Cruz? I was diving there in February and the people I NM> was with told me there had been a couple of shark attacks just north of NM> where we were diving. They said both instances had involved divers on NM> scooters. Figured the noise had attracted the shark. We were with a NM> group of six sea lions for a good ten minutes of one of our dives, and NM> I can see how a shark could easily mistake a diver for one of those. No, this just occurred during June/July. Marco Flagg was the diver, and he was using a scooter. The complete incident account was reposted here by 3 different people in the past week: Steve Elliot, Cliff Sumbler, SeaWitch. Check the backroll on your BBS echo for it. I think the spot was Pt. Lobo, or somesuch. dive SAFE, Lou, IWWWWI VALLONE@genesis.duq.edu ... [\] No fish ever trashed your house. [\] --- Blue Wave/Opus v2.12 * Origin: The BULLET Inn-V.34-Pittsburgh, PA (412) 264-3175 (1:129/112.0) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: CBX00010 Date: 07/26/95 From: JEOFF FREED Time: 09:02pm \/To: STEVE ELLIOT (Read 2 times) Subj: Subterranean Adventures Hey Steve, Good to hear from you. I do know where Pembroke Pines is. Got a cousin that lived in that area, also dated a beautiful babe in that ares, but that's another story. How log ago did you work as a manager of Divers Unlimited? I was down there from 1991 to 1993. Then moved back up to central Florida when Aronow Power Boats moved here. You said that you knew the names that I mentioned, I'm pretty sure that you know most of them, they were all involved with Artificial Reef group. I hate to say that It has all most been a year since I've been wet. In fact, it was March of last year, last day of Bug season. Got a few 2-3 pounders. You were saying that you wanted to keep you up on the subterranean adventures; I will try to do that, but it is going to be second hand information for now. Not going to be able to get wet until May of next year. This is when I graduate from collage. Most of my dives have been ocean side. I'm not fully cave certified, but I'm cavern certified. Some of the stuff that has been done is the Noula, Redeo 25, Jay Scutty, Mercedes, Tenneco Platform, Mizpah, just to name a few. Fresh water diving has been at Ginne Springs, Devils Den, Blue Grotto, Blue Springs, Wekiva Falls, ect... I hope that with my back ground, I can donate some info that may help someone. Until next time, stay wet and be safe!! --- OLXWin 1.00a The BIGGER the fin, The DEEPER the dive !! [\] --- InterEcho 1.07 * Origin: Deltona On Line Services, 904-532-0918 (1:3618/15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: CBX00011 Date: 07/26/95 From: JEOFF FREED Time: 10:21pm \/To: STAN DEAN (Read 2 times) Subj: Computor Diving Stan, You imposed a good question to me. I myself dive on the computer, but I don't push it to it's limit. I dive the Source by Sherwood. This computer stays close to the dive tables, giving you just a little bit more bottom me. You have to understand first off, that nothing is a sure thing. What I mean by this is that everybody's body is different. An example is that you may get narked at 120' where as I might get nailed at 80'. My body may blow off nitrogen allot faster than yours might. So it just depends on the body, and what physiologic things that are going on inside of it. My feeling is; 1) don't push the computer. 2) check your bottom times on the computer verses the different dive table. Be able to work it out underwater with the table incase there is a problem. 3) Be safe, because I don't want to see you in my hospital as a victim, or a dead corpse.. So now what are your feeling?? Chat at ya later Jeoff Freed aka Mr Lungs PADI Dive master --- OLXWin 1.00a I tried to get a life, but they were all out at Wal-Mart. --- InterEcho 1.07 * Origin: Deltona On Line Services, 904-532-0918 (1:3618/15) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: CBX00012 Date: 07/25/95 From: G SCHUSTER Time: 02:22pm \/To: STEVE ELLIOT (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Chilly diving On 15 Jul 95 22:01:12, Steve Elliot babbled on to G Schuster all about Chilly diving SE> My friend, you must have some very large brass ones! :) Probably because they are gold plated But you have to also take into consideration that we Canadians tend to have much thicker neopreen in our wetsuits then southern divers do. Gerry --- Blue Wave/TAG v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Beaver Keeper BBS Hamilton, Ont. Canada 28.8 (1:244/442) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: CBX00013 Date: 07/25/95 From: G SCHUSTER Time: 02:36pm \/To: CHERYL APPLEBAUM (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Toby fee On 18 Jul 95 08:57:00, Cheryl Applebaum babbled on to G Schuster all about Toby fee GS> Are you implying that you now have to pay them $8.00 when you go in GS> and register? Havn't been up in Toby for a while so I am courious. CA> Don't tell me people are bitching about having to pay a paltry $8.00 CA> for a WHOLE dive season in Toby! At double the price it would STILL CA> be a bargain. Esp in view of the fact that many popular/close dive CA> sites in the T.O. area charge almost the same not per season, but per CA> USE: Sherkston charges $8.00 per person each time, Innerkip is $5.00, CA> Gullivers is $6.00, etc., etc. I was just asking if you now had to pay to register to dive in Fathome Five. As I said, havn't been up there for a few years. Can you still stand about waist deep on the top part of the Sweepstakes seing as how you were just up there Gerry --- Blue Wave/TAG v2.12 [NR] * Origin: Beaver Keeper BBS Hamilton, Ont. Canada 28.8 (1:244/442) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: CBX00014 Date: 07/26/95 From: LINDA SCHLABACH Time: 09:37pm \/To: DENNIS SMITH (Read 2 times) Subj: Re: Sign Language Hi Dennis... DS>No. Thank you, that was an excellent suggestion... Glad to help. It makes me feel good getting some messages from other people regarding this. It shows that you guys are willing to try. Will benefit a lot from it. (sign language) Also, Steve Elliot from Divers Down BBS says there is a video for scuba divers on sign language called " Sign Language for Scuba Divers". It is available if you're interested. See below. UnderWater Video P.O. Box 3943 Salem, OR 97302 (didn't say how much for it, though) Take care...and thanks for letting me know that my message had reached you in such a short time. It is amusing! =Linda Mae= --- SLMR 2.1 Never try to outstubborn a cat. * Origin: After Five; BBS Elkhart In. 219-262-1370 10 gig (1:2285/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: CBX00015 Date: 07/26/95 From: LINDA SCHLABACH Time: 10:51pm \/To: SEAWITCH (Read 2 times) Subj: Sign Language Hi Seawitch... SE>Hi there. ACtually I have studied through level 2 and one of my buddies is SE>interpreting level. Yes it does help immensely and I wish all my buddies SE>signed. It is frustrating to dive with a buddy who looks at you with a blank SE>expression as you ramble about this fish and that seal etc. and they don't SE>understand a word you sign. Even my husband can now spell whatever is urgent SE>his mind. Amusing, isn't it? :) SE>One problem we do have, and maybe you have an answer for, is using black glo SE>on dark blue/ black wetsuits. It is hard to see signs like "fine, like, SE>interesting, myself". ALSO I have to remind my buddy at night that she has t SE>shine the light on her hand for me to see the sign. A hand on a black ater SE>background doesn't work too well :) I haven't found heavy white or neon SE>colored gloves which would solve the problem in cold water. Any suggestions? How about contacting Steve Elliot from Divers Down BBS regarding the gloves? Maybe he has some ideas. He mentioned about a video for scuba divers on sign language from UnderWater Video, Salem. Steve Elliot UnderWater Video Divers Down BBS Re: Sign Language for Scuba Ft. Lauderdale, FL. Divers 305-436-3937 P.O. Box 3943 Salem, OR 97302 Thought I would give these out to you if you're interested. Also, you stated that you went in the dark with your buddy. Eeek! I'd be too terrified because of dangers that you can't see luring around behind your back. Anyway, you made a point about dark-colored wetsuits with black gloves, especially in the dark. Maybe Steve Elliot can help you. I've always wanted to go underwater like you have because I think the world down there is beautiful. Even though sharks are terrifying, they are fanastic...so graceful and awesome to me. I have a freshwater aquarium at home. True, saltwater fish are more beautiful than freshwater fish, but I need to be well educated on how to take care of them properly first. I hope to be able to someday soon. Take care and thanks for responding to my message. =Linda Mae= --- SLMR 2.1 The more I learn, the more I have to learn. * Origin: After Five; BBS Elkhart In. 219-262-1370 10 gig (1:2285/100) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 186 SCUBA Ref: CBX00016 Date: 07/26/95 From: LINDA SCHLABACH Time: 10:49pm \/To: STEVE ELLIOT (Read 2 times) Subj: Sign Language Hi Steve... SE>I had the pleasure of diving with a couple of deaf divers a few years SE>ago, and was astounded watching them communicate underwater. I jumped SE>into the midst of their conversations with some very basic finger- SE>spelling, to make sure that everything was going OK, only to find out SE>that they were pointing out fishlife, coral formations, etc. to each SE>other. When we got back on the boat, I learned that one of the divers SE>was only partially deaf and she graciously spent some time answering SE>all of my questions about American Sign Language and how it could be SE>applied to diving situations. Neat, isn't it? :) SE>To make a long story short, several of my friends got together and SE>learned the basics of ASL through the local YMCA, and even purchased SE>a videotape called "Sign Language for Scuba Divers" to further our SE>training. The video is available from Underwater Video, P.O. Box 3943, SE>Salem, OR 97302. That is fanastic! Now, I want to see that videotape! Want to see how they communicate. I have NEVER seen sign language from the divers myself. SE>Those of you who have dove with me over the years have seen me use SE>some of this sign language vocabulary while diving. I use it for SE>simple things like "Swim with the current to the line and start SE>your ascent", or "Look under that ledge at the sleeping nurse shark", SE>etc. Ohhh, how I would love to be under there! Must be beautiful... SE>If you have the opportunity to take an ASL course, or watch this SE>video, I think you'll agree that it makes for more enjoyable and SE>safer diving. How true! And I have already suggested it to someone else regarding that videotape you mentioned. Also, other person asking about the gloves...wanting a light-colored or neon pair of gloves so signing can be seen clearly in the dark. I told him to try contacting you...that maybe you can help. Hope you don't mind. SE>Thanks for the tip, Linda! You also help by posting your message so all divers can read about your experiences on using sign language under water. For this, I thank you. It makes me feel good that there ARE some out there that have already tried it! I think that's nice. Take care... =Linda Mae= --- SLMR 2.1 Save gas. Travel by modem. * Origin: After Five; BBS Elkhart In. 219-262-1370 10 gig (1:2285/100)