--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 185 RIGHT/BEAR ARMS Ref: F3E00046Date: 03/07/98 From: GUS GERE Time: 11:27pm \/To: JACKSON DRYDEN (Read 1 times) Subj: New Moderator or The Rul JD>You have my apologies for the interruption. No need, but I was kinda wondering if you just pulled a Beerhall Putsch of your own. ;-) - GWG ~~~ * VbReader 2.22 #NR * "Du sublime au ridicule il n'y a qu'un pas." (There is only one step from the sublime to the ridiculous.) - Napoleon I, after the retreat from Moscow. --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Watership Down BBS, Kanata ON Canada (613)831-8528 (1:163/430) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 185 RIGHT/BEAR ARMS Ref: F3E00047Date: 03/07/98 From: GUS GERE Time: 11:28pm \/To: JACKSON DRYDEN (Read 1 times) Subj: ooops! JD>While you're here, you will be more than welcome to post. Brien Page JD>told me that you were coming. Hope that you enjoy your stay. Yeah, I should bring my laptop and pester him. We'll see. - GWG ~~~ * VbReader 2.22 #NR * "Ave, Imperator, morituri te salutant." (Hail, Emperor, those about to die salute thee.) _Life of Claudius_ - Suetonius A.D. 120 --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Watership Down BBS, Kanata ON Canada (613)831-8528 (1:163/430) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 185 RIGHT/BEAR ARMS Ref: F3E00048Date: 03/07/98 From: GUS GERE Time: 11:31pm \/To: BRIEN PAGE (Read 1 times) Subj: ooops! BP> GG> Oh darn. I guess that means I can't areafix it, eh? ;-) BP>I'll bet Jackson won't mind if you poll here for a feed. :-) I thought about that, but if it's all just local stuff? - GWG ~~~ * VbReader 2.22 #NR * "Aut Caesar, aut nihil." (Caesar or nothing) motto of Cesare Borgia --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Watership Down BBS, Kanata ON Canada (613)831-8528 (1:163/430) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 185 RIGHT/BEAR ARMS Ref: F3E00049Date: 03/07/98 From: GUS GERE Time: 11:41pm \/To: ALEX VASAUSKAS (Read 1 times) Subj: rtkba AV>everyone pools their money to protect their mutual rights. AV>Unfortunately, even the managers of our pooled resources have AV>their own agendas that cause them to look out for themselves AV>before they look out for their "employers", we who have contributed. Unfortunately I don't know enough about that particular situation to comment fairly on it one way or another, but if it's like almost every other political hassle there will always be two sides to the story, and three or more different approaches on how to solve the mess. Offhand, and speaking strictly for myself, it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to split the opposition to any gun-control laws, although I'm sure each faction has its own reasons for doing so. What happens though is that, as in Canada, with our two federal "right-wing conservative" parties being at each others throats all the time, the socialist-minded gun-grabbing Liberals always manage to sneak up the middle and get re-elected. - GWG ~~~ * VbReader 2.22 #NR * "I am not arguing with you - I am telling you." James Whistler --- Maximus 3.01 * Origin: Watership Down BBS, Kanata ON Canada (613)831-8528 (1:163/430) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 185 RIGHT/BEAR ARMS Ref: F3E00050Date: 03/08/98 From: JACKSON DRYDEN Time: 11:09am \/To: TERRY SMITH (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: NRA General RKBA Dig CF> Brian. was the SKS the only rifle involved in CF> this or were there others? BT> There were others... I don't recall BT> exactly how it was worded, but I BT> believe that all semi-auto, paramilitary weapons with BT> removable mags were on the list... TS> Interesting seeing the court's ruling about AG TS> arbitrary changes to the list, TS> isn't it? Interesting indeed! I've been reading that the Roberti-Roos law *was* overturned. If you can get the internet newsgroups, check in the alt.guns.politics group. Lots of cites there. Interesting also that the judge that overturned the law did so on the basis that the law provided for the judiciary making the changes to the list of banned guns. This being a clear violation of the separation of powers provided for in the Constitution. Now your saying that the CA Attorney General is amending the list in violation of the law that just got struck down. Very interesting indeed! The jerks won't even obey their own *damned* laws! jackson --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: NUT N' MUCH BBS Madison TN (615 868-8370 ISDN/Analog) (1:116/305) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 185 RIGHT/BEAR ARMS Ref: F3E00051Date: 03/08/98 From: BRIEN PAGE Time: 12:54pm \/To: GUS GERE (Read 1 times) Subj: ooops! BP> GG> Oh darn. I guess that means I can't areafix it, eh? ;-) BP>I'll bet Jackson won't mind if you poll here for a feed. :-) GG> I thought about that, but if it's all just local stuff? Just think of it as immersing yourself in the local culture. Brien --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: NUT N' MUCH BBS Madison TN (615 868-8370 ISDN/Analog) (1:116/305) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 185 RIGHT/BEAR ARMS Ref: F3E00052Date: 03/09/98 From: TERRY SMITH Time: 01:48am \/To: JACKSON DRYDEN (Read 1 times) Subj: Re: NRA General RKBA Dig BT> believe that all semi-auto, paramilitary weapons with BT> removable mags were on the list... TS> Interesting seeing the court's ruling about AG TS> arbitrary changes to the list, isn't it? JD> JD> Interesting indeed! I've been reading that the Roberti-Roos law *was* JD> overturned. If you can get the internet newsgroups, check in the JD> alt.guns.politics group. Lots of cites there. No need for me to check. Largely from my visibility as an activist, which as led me to learn a lot of law and procedure for someone who thinks much of our legal system is sick, I've helped people deal with defective ordinances and cops not obeying carry permit issuance law around my state (some people have a mental block over the concept that sometimes the cops are the crooks). One of those ended up being a Southern Cal. NRA members council temporary visitor who I helped out, and I ended up on the feeds of what his group is up to. That includes some of the top firearms folks in the country using a closed nternet reflector, fortunately, for unfortunately they have a full plate of problems. I got the info on that decision hot off the presses days ago. AAMOF, it was sort of funny seeing someone in another echo saying "I never believe anything Linda Thompson says" yesterday, when she was forwarding one of the releases I had sent to about 80 RTKBA leaders here in CT 2 days before. Yup, no BS from good old Linda there, as I was 2 links away from one of the lead Plaintiff attorneys seeing the same info days earlier. Here in CT we're watching that closely, as some politicians we've since given the local version of DF8 treatment passed a copycat of that here several ears back, with most of the same flaws. The CA news was good, though we have to note it will likely see one more level of court action before being final. RA-ILA hadn't seriously reviewed it yet as of Friday afternoon. Previous state ourt action here on the CT copycat had very mixed and ultimately disappointing results, though there are angles not previously pursued which the CA case could make more hopeful. Terry --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The more laws there are, the more crime there is. (1:141/1275) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 185 RIGHT/BEAR ARMS Ref: F3E00053Date: 03/08/98 From: SCOTT SCHEIBE Time: 07:21pm \/To: ALL (Read 1 times) Subj: NRA RKBA Alert Digest 537 *********** NOTICE: THIS IS A FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** ============================================================================ RKBA-ALERT Digest 537 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) ALERT: CO CT KY MD TX UT WA WI - State and Local Alerts by NRA Alerts ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Topic No. 1 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:22:43 -0500 (EST) From: NRA Alerts To: rkba-alert-real.nra Subject: ALERT: CO CT KY MD TX UT WA WI - State and Local Alerts Message-ID: <199803070022.TAA02814@fs1.mainstream.net> March 6, 1998 State & Local Legislative Updates For CO, CT, KY, MD, TX, UT, WA, & WI COLORADO On Tuesday, March 10, the Senate Local Government Committee is expected to consider HB 1170, the NRA-backed Range Protection Bill. And, on Wednesday, March 18, the Senate Judiciary Committee is expected to consider HB 1260. This measure known as the Uniform Firearm Law Enforcement Act would prevent a patchwork of local gun laws throughout the state which could easily trap unwary law-abiding citizens -- citizens who could face criminal prosecution, and confiscation of personal property if they unknowingly violate an obscure local law. MEMBERS: Please call your State Senators at (303) 866-2316 and ask them to support HB 1170 and HB1260. CONNECTICUT SB 315, NRA-supported Range Protection legislation is still pending in the State Legislature's Judiciary Committee. The Committee has until Tuesday, March 24 to act on the bill. MEMBERS: Please keep calling your State Senator at (860) 240-0500 and your State Representative at (860) 240-0400 encouraging them to request the Judiciary Committee to joint favorably report out SB 315. KENTUCKY Governor Paul Patton (R) signed HB 54, the NRA-backed Range Protection bill into law. MARYLAND REMINDER: The House Judiciary Committee's "Gun Day" is Friday, March 13, at 1:00 p.m., in room 121 of the Lowe House Office Building. If you wish to testify you must sign up prior to the hearing time. They will consider some of the most restrictive bills we face this session, so it is critical that gun owners attend and show our strong opposition. For a complete listing of gun bills call NRA-ILA's Grassroots Division at 1-800-317-4684. TEXAS Tuesday, March 10 is primary election day. Please go to the polls and support those candidates that support our firearm freedoms. For candidate endorsements please contact NRA-ILA's Grassroots Division 1-800-317-4684. UTAH Currently four bills are awaiting Governor Leavitt's (R) signature. HB 343 , NRA-backed Range Protection legislation; SB 140, which will increase the carry permit duration from 2yrs. to 5yrs. (no fee increase); SB 141, which provides an exemption, from the Brady law, for right to carry permit holders and HB 304, a bill that would require 10% of registered voter signatures from 20 counties -- current law requires only 15 counties -- to qualify any ballot initiative. This change in the law will make it much more difficult for the animal extremists to push ballot measures. MEMBERS: Please call Governor Leavitt's office at (801) 538-1000 and politely ask him to sign these bills. WASHINGTON Two bills are back in the House for concurrence after passing the Senate last week. HB 1408, that would allow Washington to recognize out-of-state carry permits and HB 1541, NRA-supported Range Protection legislation. MEMBERS: Please contact your State Representatives at (800) 562-6000 urging them to concur on these bills. WISCONSIN Thursday, March 12, the full House will consider AB 308, NRA- backed Range Protection legislation MEMBERS: Please call your State Representatives at (608) 266-1501 and urge them to support Representative Huebsch (R) floor amendment to AB 308 and final passage of the measure. Also, AJR 11, the proposed right to keep and bear arms amendment to the state constitution will be considered by the Senate Judiciary Committee early next week. AJR 11 must be approved by the both chambers this session before it can be placed on the ballot for voter approval. If the legislature takes quick action on the measure this year, it could appear on the ballot as early as September, 1998. MEMBERS: Please contact your State Senators at (608) 266-2517 and urge them to support AJR 11. Also, please contact Senators Breske(D), Wirch (D) and Zien (R) and thank them for working so hard to get this resolution moving again. =+=+=+=+ This information is provided as a service of the National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action, Fairfax, VA. This and other information on the Second Amendment and the NRA is available at: http://WWW.NRA.Org ------------------------------ End of RKBA-ALERT Digest 537 **************************** ... ******** NOTE: THIS IS A FORWARDED MESSAGE ******** --- FMail 1.22 * Origin: CyberSupport Hq/Co.A (602)231-9377 PRN/SURV/FIDO/+ (1:114/428)