J6`zA`Ugn1yiFa--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 184 HOME OFFICE Ref: DF500007 Date: 11/04/96 From: STEPHEN COKER Time: 07:20pm \/To: ALL (Read 8 times) Subj: Line Share/Answer Machine Hi everyone! I've used a GE micro-cassette answering machine for 15 years and only had to replace the drive belts once (after 15 years use). Of course I regularly cleaned the tape heads & rollers. I gave it to my in-laws and it's still going strong. Now I'm using Bell Canada's "Call Answer" (for voice mail/answer service). It's great! Now if someone's on the phone and can't respond to the Call Waiting signal, Call Answer will answer up to 2 incoming calls at same ime! A new service coming soon here in Ontario, Canada is Visual Call Waiting. You need a newer type phone (i.e. Meridian 350 or a special Sanyo model) but it will display the name/number of the person who's trying to get through while you're on the line with someone else. If it's the bill collector then just leave it, if its the lottery calling to say you've won big then you know right away. I use distintive calling for my fax/modem use. It grabs the data calls and regular calls go to Call Answer if line is busy. ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR] --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/M 25 * Origin: PrimeTime * Muskoka (705)689-1757 (1:252/301) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 184 HOME OFFICE Ref: DFA00000 Date: 11/05/96 From: MARC GAULT Time: 11:31am \/To: AUGUST ABOLINS (Read 8 times) Subj: Answering Machine August-I'm surprised that you're able to have a phone company voicemail option that can distinguish between your distinctive ring numbers. Less than 10 months ago, I spoke extensively with Bellsouth regarding this. They researched my query and got back to me with a supervisor. What you have working for you was not possible here. My guess is that the phone company made a "mistake" in setting up your service,as they'd much rather collect revenues from a second line than from distinctive ringing. Marc If Watson had voicemail, would Bell have chucked the telephone idea? --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Atlanta Business Connection - (770) 232-9827 - (1:133/9018) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 184 HOME OFFICE Ref: DFA00001 Date: 11/05/96 From: MARC GAULT Time: 12:04pm \/To: LAURIE CAMPBELL (Read 8 times) Subj: Faxing Laurie-your scenario would stop revenge faxes from working. But what if your fax machine is set up to resend those pages which weren't delivered. 3 am: Junk Faxer gets out of bed and turns off fax. 3:01 am: Junk faxer hears phone ring for fax. 3:10 am: Junk faxer takes fax phone off hook. 7:30 am: Junk faxer puts fax phone back on hook. Next night: 3 am: Junk Faxer gets out of bed and turns off fax 3:01: ETC. Next night: 3 am: Junk Faxer CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE'S DOING THIS! 3:01 ETC 7:30 am: Junk Faxer considers calling authorities but realizes he'll look like a fox complaining about the chicken feathers that got in his mouth. Next night: 3 am: "Send me any more junk faxes and I'll return the favor...longer" is received on Junk Faxer's fax machine. 3:01 am Machine is quiet. 3:10 am Junk Faxer can't believe IT's FINALLY STOPPED. 7:30 am Junk Faxer reads message. 7:31 am Junk Faxer get message. Laurie-I've never done this, but...it sounds good to me. Marc --- Maximus/2 3.01 * Origin: Atlanta Business Connection - (770) 232-9827 - (1:133/9018) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 184 HOME OFFICE Ref: DFA00002 Date: 11/01/96 From: RICHARD APPEL Time: 01:10pm \/To: GARY & CAROLYN DONNER (Read 8 times) Subj: Recharging Copiers G& > Hi Richard, G& > Very much Thanks. I will get a copy of computer shopper and check it G& > out. I was not aware there is a fuse that blows after a certain number G& > of copies, Not necessarilyon your machine.. that was a method used by ... ummmm... Panasonic (or was it Okidata?) on their lasers c.1993 or so. Learned this from a guy in Florida had a very informative recharging catalog.... he stocked the darn fuses for $.50 I was just trying to point out that many times parts are good for *many* *many* times the life of the toner you'l use-up. G& > .......but did know there is a switch somewhere in behind our drum G& > that can be reset to get more copies from the drum, but I have yet to G& > find it :-( You *WILL* find it (after 2 hours) when you've got to put out a major amount of work and your machine goes belly-up on a Sunday with all the local stores out of the replacement part you need. OTOH.. it can be found within 2 minutes on a normal day. ;-) Best Wishes Rick * JABBER v1.1 * Murphy is out there ... waiting ... --- Platinum Xpress/Wildcat! v1.2j * Origin: The Frontier : (610)-279-6636 (1:2614/744) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 184 HOME OFFICE Ref: DFA00003 Date: 11/05/96 From: RICHARD HARTMAN Time: 01:53pm \/To: DICK ROEBELT (Read 8 times) Subj: Faxing Hello! DR>AA> DR> What some of us do (for revenge) is to completely color DR>AA> DR> several pieces of paper and tape them together and "return" DR>AA> DR> the fax. That way we strip you out of toner and paper by DR>AA> DR> sending a "loop" fax to you...esp. in the middle of the night. DR>AA> DR> The gist of that is hoping we get a message across that DR>AA> DR> we do not welcome intrusive faxes. DR>AA>The revenge part intriged me. Wouldn't your action of "revenge" DR>AA>be equal justification for your target to bring charges against DR>AA>*you* ?! DR> I bet it would...should I be caught. But, as a tough old bird of a DR>man who I respect and admire once told me....self-help is usually the DR>best help...and sometimes you just GOTTA get their attention. And DR>make sure you have lots of "small" business owners on the jury. Another possibility would be to either ignore the intrusive FAX or to FAX back a polite "no thank you, take me off your list" note. Everyone is a potential client/neighbor/friend/network-contact and spending time burning bridges rarely improves your position. Whereas a considerate mature response will be notice by those who see your response (ie. wife and children in the home), even if missed by the original intrusive FAXer. Our everyday walk can be an opportunity to teach valuable lessons to our children. God Bless, Richard Hartman --- OLX 2.2 TD Pardon my driving, I'm trying to reload. --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/25 * Origin: The Contrails BBS Dallas/Ft.Worth, TX 817-571-3424 (1:130/83) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 184 HOME OFFICE Ref: DFA00004 Date: 11/04/96 From: JODY MCCONKEY Time: 02:44pm \/To: RT POLLOCK (Read 8 times) Subj: Re: Answering machine -=> What the hell did Rt Pollock mean by that crack? <=- Hey, sorry for jumping in here, but this a subject near and dear to my heart... RP> Yes...backing-up data can be time-consuming, but it's still cheaper RP> than losing important data ...forever ! And it certainly beats having RP> to pay a fast typist to replace such records. I run a computer services firm, in Kingston, ON one of my clients had her office broken in to, all the computer equipment was taken along with her fax machine and various other little things. Insurance covered the cost of replacing the equipment, but not the data....Three weeks later and a bill for 2000 dollars she had most of her data back. She lost some clients over it as their records were the ones she couldn't get back. RP> You wanna gripe about the time it takes to perform backups, you go RP> right ahead and gripe. Maybe by the time you've finished all the RP> precious data on your machine will have been vanquished...and you soon RP> learn about the EXPENSE that professional data restorations can bring RP> down on you. I can assure you that it would be far in excess of the RP> 100-bucks or so that a UPS might've cost you in the first place...! RP> Instead of griping, you'll be in a position to groan really loudly... Exactly, see my above example.. RP> Are you aware of a technique known as "unattended backup" ? The RP> technique is used commonplace at many offices todays...and the RP> investment involved is actually quite cost-effective for many. Bundled RP> backup software that comes with many tape backup drives allow for timed RP> backups under the particular schema that you might actually require. No RP> longer do you need to be concerned about the costs of assigning an RP> employee to take dedicated data backups: it can all be setup through a RP> one-time effort and last until the day the machine croaks on it's last RP> byte. As some old-timers might say. "...it's automatic...". The problem with the type of system you are referring to, is the fact that the tape while backing up unattended is also unattended until the morning. Not all data is lost due to computer problems....what about floods, fires. crooks....just to mention a few more. Do you think if a crook was breaking into the office and stealing things, he/she would take the time to remove your backup tapes before taking off with your tape machine.... One of my biggest selling services to SOHO firms is Remote Backups, I install software on the client machine, we pick the critical files together, then in the evening when the office is closed, the software (which runs as a TSR) wakes up the computer, gathers the days work, verifies it, encrypts it (only the client knows the password) and transmits it via modem to my storage machine off-site. The next morning I transfer the previous nights backups to tape and zip drive and store them in a disaster proof safe. Most people aren't aware that most safes they buy in stores actually release moisture in the event of a fire, not too good for your computer media if it's inside. RP> When coupled with current UPS technology, unattended backups can serve RP> to provide upwards of 90% of system (data) protection, the other 10% RP> being attributed to "human error" and peripherial RP> electrical/physical/mechanical breakdowns. Change the above statment to remote backups and then you truly have a safe computer system....I can also restore on-line....I know remote backup providers are popping up everywhere, you would have to check your area, but I know that I only charge, (depending on the amount of data transmitted of course), in the range of 50 bucks per month, for daily, instantly off-site backups.... Surge protecters, UPS, remote backups, baby you're protected come what may... Take care all, and be careful out there... Jody ... Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (S)lap nearest innocent bystander. --- Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 * Origin: TypeCast(tm) BBS * Kingston, ONT. * (613) 531-0479 (1:249/107) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 184 HOME OFFICE Ref: DFB00000 Date: 11/06/96 From: ED DAVIS Time: 01:27pm \/To: RT POLLOCK (Read 8 times) Subj: Answering machine > ED> I'm retired and living on limited income. Money doesn't come easily. > ED> However, time I got plenty of... > I can understand what you're up against but that's no excuse to not > acknowledge the "added advantages" that UPS installations do afford. I never said there weren't advantages...all I am saying is that I have decided, for my own purposes, not to spend the money. Why must 27 readers insist that I am wrong? I know my personal circumstances better than anybody, and NO ONE here has "walked in my shoes" to know any different. >> How much of that time would you value to be in excessive $100 already? > > Just the same, I'll hint to you that Xmas is on the way...and that > perhaps > your family just might be kind enough to take _your_ hint(s) that you > need a > small UPS for that machine of yours. Beats the price of a replacement > machine anyday ! Not to lay any guilt trip on you, the last of my family passed away this year. So there's no one to "hint" to as you suggest. If I want something, I must buy it myself. And as I have already stated, that "ain't gonna happen" in this case. I've said it once, I'll say it again...I THINK MY PC's ARE SUFFICIENTLY PROTECTED, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES. Please drop the issue, everyone. --- * Origin: Nothing in fine print is ever good news. - Andy Rooney 1:261/1002) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 184 HOME OFFICE Ref: DFJ00000 Date: 11/07/96 From: EDWARD FLEMING Time: 12:20am \/To: STEVE SAMBOR (Read 7 times) Subj: LEGAL WEB SITE Yes and Reno babby sure proved it to us at Waco. --- GOMail v2.0 [94-0563] * Origin: KPLH Information Systems-Mpls,Mn 612 935-3074 (1:282/1040) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 184 HOME OFFICE Ref: DFJ00001 Date: 11/03/96 From: GLEN GODIER Time: 10:26am \/To: LAURIE CAMPBELL (Read 7 times) Subj: Faxing You're right Laurie - in the past this type of "advertising" was new and exciting and therefore tolerated but I guess too many people have started using the old blanket fax system and hence the terrific amount of "junk faxes" we currently receive each day. I guess I'll have to go back to the old system of using the postal system since other advertising methods are either too expensive or not effective. Thanks. --- Maximus 2.02 * Origin: Artsy Fartsy BBS System (1:250/234) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 184 HOME OFFICE Ref: DFJ00002 Date: 11/09/96 From: RICHARD HARTMAN Time: 02:31am \/To: DICK ROEBELT (Read 7 times) Subj: Faxing DR>RICHARD HARTMAN spoke thusly to: DICK ROEBELT And vice versa DR>RH>DR>AA> DR> What some of us do (for revenge) is to completely ... DR>RH>DR>AA>The revenge part intriged me. Wouldn't your action of ... DR>RH>DR> I bet it would...should I be caught. But, as a tough old DR>RH>DR>bird of a man who I respect and admire once told me....self-help DR>RH>DR>is usually the best help...and sometimes you just GOTTA get DR>RH>DR>their attention. And make sure you have lots of "small" DR>RH>DR>business owners on the jury. DR>RH>Another possibility would be to either ignore the intrusive FAX or DR>RH>to FAX back a polite "no thank you, take me off your list" note. DR> Just got another unsolicited one. DR> This has the following tripe printed on it: "If you would prefer DR>not to receive any future faxes.....and we will be happy to remove you DR>from our list promptly....Please accept our apologies if you have DR>received an unwanted fax." DR> Now please tell me why I am on their list in the first place? They think you'll bite the bait & they haven't read PL 102-243! DR>Since the line that my fax machine is on has only been installed for DR>less than 3 weeks and only 4 of my clients have that number; I have to DR>assume that these guys are either one of the several who call every DR>number in a given geographic area and when they get a fax or computer DR>tone, they make a note of it or they purchase such data from those who DR>do. A very annoying practice! Yep! DR> Now I just finished reading PL 102-243 (47 USCA s.227). It CLEARLY DR>states that sending an unsolicited fax is against the law and I am DR>entitled to damages ($500.00 minimum). In fact the actual language DR>reads: "to use any telephone facsimile machine, computer, or other DR>device to send an unsolicited advertisement to a telephone facsimile DR>machine; or..." Sounds like your about to get rich thru the courts. DR> So screw the "no thank you." These clowns have violated the law. DR>Now all I have to do is dig up the two cases that were heard by the DR>courts and re-read them before I proceed getting my due. If you have been "damaged" and the law is on your side, pursue. However, your case just went out the window when the defendant shows up with 164' of black thermal paper with your header on it. DR>RH>Everyone is a potential client/neighbor/friend/network-contact and DR>RH>spending time burning bridges rarely improves your position. DR> These guys would not ever become a client. A competitor, maybe, a DR>client, never! Whatever. DR>RH>Whereas a considerate mature response will be notice by those who DR>RH>see your response (ie. wife and children in the home), even if DR>RH>missed by the original intrusive FAXer. Our everyday walk can be DR>RH>an opportunity to teach valuable lessons to our children. DR> And what lesson does it teach the children to allow lawbreakers to DR>run free, thumb their noses at the law, and make a profit while doing DR>so? Patience. Humility. Consideration for others. Perspective. You see, the individuals who are sending you FAXes do not have the intent or motive of harming you, but of you purchasing their goods and them buying groceries for the kiddos with the profit. Maybe they haven't read PL 102-243. Maybe you could FAX *them* a copy. Keep a file of those who have been 'informed' about the law. Repeat offenders get to learn about "small claims court." (ie. a legal and ethical route.) DR> Some folks call the cops on lawbreakers. Others dish it back at DR>them to show that they will not be victims. Either way, justice will DR>be done. Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, "VENGENCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY," says the Lord. Romans 12:19 Richard Hartman --- OLX 2.2 TD I only lie about hunting when my lips move. --- PCBoard (R) v15.22/25 * Origin: The Contrails BBS Dallas/Ft.Worth, TX 817-571-3424 (1:130/83)