--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: F2C00000 Date: 02/08/98 From: SOUTHERN STAR Time: 12:11am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Expired Listing Hello. The Zone 1 Backbone only carries echoes listed in the Zone 1/2 EchoList. It seems that the listing for this echo has expired. Thus, it will be necessary for someone to assume the moderatorship and list it if it is to remain on the Zone 1 Backbone. There is a three month grace period to accomplish this. For more information please consult these files: BOFAQxxx.TXT and ELISTxxx.ZIP, where "xxx" is the version number. They are available from most hubs or can be requested from 1:1/201 or 1:396/1. Regards, Zone 1 Backbone Operations --- Harvey's Robot v6.00 * Origin: Southern Star - sstar.com - V.32b/V.34+ - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: F2C00001 Date: 02/08/98 From: CAMERON HALL Time: 12:29am \/To: KEITH KNAPP (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: cassete tape -=> Quoting Keith Knapp to Cameron Hall on 3 Feb 98 07:37pm <=- -=> Subj: Re: cassete tape <=- KK> Hey, I gots a question for ya. I have a walkman I carry on my belt, KK> and one day I managed to bang it pretty hard into a door frame. I dropped my Panasonic from only a few feet onto a hardwood floor. Buttons flew off, and the innards rattled. Needless to say, the tape drive is completely gibbled. I found it wouldn't shut off, so used some strong arm tactics and worked with the tape drive and got it to stay off when turned off. :-) I still use it for it's great tuner though. KK> After that I could clearly hear phasing problems in the highs, but KK> there is no head alignment screw on this box (an otherwise good Although no screws could be seen from above, sometimes (I've seen this) they are accessable from underneith, either via hole in the chassis or a right-angle tool of some kind. Sometimes, those things are glued into place... :-( KK> Sony Walkhominid). Subsequently I noticed phasing errors on tapes KK> I ran thru the machine, and this phasing was still there when KK> I replaced the machine with a new one. Is it possible for misaligned KK> heads to screw up the phasing on a tape even though it's a KK> playback-only machine? The trick here is to listen to tapes NOT played on that machine, as the phasing you mention could actually be a head miss-alignment of the new unit. However, if the tapes NOT played on the bashed machine sound fine on the new one, then obviously the old one somehow damaged the tapes. Anythings possible. The best way to check for damaged tape is to view the tape filimant (through the cassette openings) and get a room light to reflect off of the surface. There should be NO creases, dents, ripples, dimples, tears, angled impressions etc. With the new unit, make sure ALL tape guide path parts are clean. And if you can dig it up, TEAC pinch roller / idler rubber cleaner does a fantastic job, just remember, HOLD YOUR NOSE. :-) Hope this leads you in the right direction. Cameron Hall cameron.hall@bluebeam.gryn.org | ad121@hwcn.org Blue Beam MailServer | 905 662 5784 | Stoney Creek ON Canada | v34 FAX --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Blue Beam MailServer, Stoney Creek, Canada (1:2424/3120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: F2D00000 Date: 02/08/98 From: MIKE RANDALL Time: 10:47am \/To: RICK MCBROOM (Read 0 times) Subj: q Hiya Rick! Wednesday February 04 1998 05:19, Rick Mcbroom wrote to Javier Colter: RM>>> 3. Convert the .WAV file to .CDR format. This takes place at RM>>> aprox. 6x to 8x speed. JC>> I don't understand why you must convert to that format. It's only JC>> with your CD-R? RM> No, it's because conventional audio CD players won't read .WAV files, RM> only CD Raw (.CDR) files. I wondered about this.. With the software I'm using with my CD Writer, you can either use WAV or RAW files as the input, but it writes it to the CD as normal CD audio (and plays fine on all normal CD players). -=] Mike Randall [=- Burp's BBS! - 2:254/292 - Node 1 - +44 (0)181 405 4164 2:254/293 - Node 2 - +44 (0)181 240 1160 (Mail only Node) -!DAVE CARTER FOR REC!- ... "Have you seen a man who's lost his luggage?" * Suitcase --- FMail/Win32 1.22 * Origin: Burp's BBS UK - +44 (0)181 405 4164 (Telewest) (2:254/292) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: F2D00001 Date: 02/08/98 From: JAVIER COLTER Time: 02:51am \/To: RICK MCBROOM (Read 0 times) Subj: CD-R Hi Rick , What's up?? From the deepest of his mind, Rick Mcbroom dare to say to Javier Colter: JC>> Yeah, I use Cool Edit too.. It's a great program.. RM> A good one, any way. Sure beats WavMaker, the OEM Compaq utility! And sound recorder.. :)) JC>> There's no need for this.. RM> I disagree. It depends on your specific system, really. And how much RM> of a perfectionist you are, I suppose. Well, different points of view.. :) JC>> If you have enough memory and enough buffers you will be sure JC>> that there's no clicks/chops in the audio file. RM> I have 64 megs of RAM, my buffers are maxed out in Cool Edit's setup, RM> and I /still/ get the occasional under-run. How much RAM do reckon I RM> need? 64mb is fine.. I hope you don't multitask while recording.. When I record I let the full machine to that application.. JC>> I don't understand why you must convert to that format. It's only JC>> with your CD-R? RM> No, it's because conventional audio CD players won't read .WAV files, RM> only CD Raw (.CDR) files. I know, but just how i was telling you down here... JC>> I have a Panasonic writer and I just grab the wav files and burn JC>> them to cd audio tracks.. RM> If you're actually burning .WAV files onto the discs, then I must RM> assume that you play them ONLY on your computer. You sure ain't gonna RM> be able to play 'em on a regular CD deck! Nononnoo.. I'm not recording the wav files as DATA, i'm recording the files as AUDIO... And it can be played anywhere :) RM> OTOH, if your discs /do/ play on a conventional audio CD player, RM> then the mastering software must convert from .WAV to .CDR on the RM> fly. I think this is what i'm doing.. RM> What brand/ version mastering software do you use? Easy-Cd Pro 2.0 JC>> ..+/- 17 minutes to burn it to a cd at 4x. RM> You burn at /4x/ with test-before-write off?! That's amazing. Now I realize that you were talking about your IDE burner.. :-\ I'm using a SCSI one.. :) RM> Tell me more about your system; RM> What CPU are you running? P166mmx RM> How much RAM do you have? 32 RM> What brand hard drive do you have? What are it's access time RM> specs? I use a Quantum Fireball IDE UDMA2 (3.2 gb) The access time is about 8-9 ms. I also use a Quantum Fireball SCSI-2 (2.0 gb).. I dunno the access time.. But it seems that the IDE UDMA drive is FASTER than the SCSI-2 one.. RM> ARE your hard drive and CD burner IDE devices, or are they SCSI? As I told you: Recorder: SCSI HD: 1 IDE, 1 SCSI RM> What mastering software do you use, exactly? Easy CD Pro 2.0 RM> FWIW, I'm using a Compaq 4814 w/ 233 mhz Pentium II, 64 megs of RAM, RM> a Quantum Bigfoot 6.4 gig IDE HD (<14 ms average seek time), my CD-R RM> is a Philips OmniWriter IDE internal, and I use the HyCD mastering RM> suite (OEM version). I think your problems comes from the Bigfoot drive.. I been told that those drivers are VERY SLOW to cd-recording.. RM> From what I've been able to gather on usenet, and on the Adaptec, RM> HyCD and Philips support sites, you're having exceptional luck. Very, RM> very few folks are getting that level of performance from IDE burners, RM> as far as I can tell. Some are having bona-fide nightmares, with RM> problems far exceeding those that I've had... I didn't realize you were talking about *IDE* burners.. Sorry.. E-mail : javiercolter@usa.net Email Cadorna: Cadorna@iname.com ... Lo esencial es invisible a los ojos --- FMailX 1.22 * Origin: Humilde consuelo (4:900/251) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: F2D00002 Date: 02/05/98 From: THOM KOUWENHOVEN Time: 09:42pm \/To: PHIL ROBERTS (Read 0 times) Subj: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs How's life Phil Op 04 Feb 98 02:56 you wrote something about *Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs*... TK>> Try to find good tapes =) PR> I have had decent luck, very few dropouts ever. I use EP speed, which is PR> the most risky for this. I've gotten the best results overall with Maxell, PR> Sony, and Fuji. I've good results with Sony indeed....the worst results I had with a "brand" tape was TDK.....I'll buy it never, never, never again Greetingzetcetera, Thom *----* ... Veni, Vidi, Velpon - Ik kwam, ik zag en ik bleef plakken --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Aargh! BBS Amsterdam (31-20-4932183) (2:280/606.19) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: F2D00003 Date: 02/09/98 From: CAMERON HALL Time: 12:35am \/To: RICK MCBROOM (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: CD-R -=> Quoting Rick Mcbroom to Cameron Hall on 4 Feb 98 05:19am <=- -=> Subj: Re: CD-R <=- RM> Ah! Yeah, that's right. It's really not intended for music, just for RM> short sound-bites to use for system events and such. It isn't even RM> capable of stereo, as I recall. I was afraid of that. :-( RM> You might say that. Just about anything that accesses the hard drive RM> will ruin your recording, including screen-savers and virus-checkers. And while Win95 is tinkering with itself, ie clearing the swap file, or re-writing it... RM> Then an IDE burner would serve you well, I reckon. Thanks! RM> Right. If I'm gonna do it, I want to do a good job of it. My motto has been since being around computers: If I know of a way of reliably doing it once, then that's the way I do it. :-) RM> Oh yeah, the 4x and below IDE burners are very reasonable. But an 8x RM> SCSI burner will set you back a grand or so.. and no one discounts them RM> to any degree. Seems anything SCSI will... :-( RM> It's like you took an analog tape and clipped an inch or two out, then RM> spliced it back together Take a *real* close listen to Bruce Cockburn on the track "Tokyo" on CD, then if you have access to the vinyl LP or 45, note the verse starting with "Grey suited businessman..." and see if the difference can be heard. That sounds like what your getting at. The fact it happends during a word some would consider offensive, is suspicious to me... :-) RM> Errr.. there's probably something out there.. But methinks you'll have RM> to look long and hard to find it! First the soundcard support, then the editing/conversion stuff. It'd probably multitask better though. :-))))) Cameron Hall cameron.hall@bluebeam.gryn.org | ad121@hwcn.org Blue Beam MailServer | 905 662 5784 | Stoney Creek ON Canada | v34 FAX --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Blue Beam MailServer, Stoney Creek, Canada (1:2424/3120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: F2D00004 Date: 02/08/98 From: DENNIS JENKINS Time: 08:10pm \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Expired Listing SS>Hello. SS>The Zone 1 Backbone only carries echoes listed in the Zone 1/2 EchoList SS>seems that the listing for this echo has expired. Thus, it will be nec SS>for someone to assume the moderatorship and list it if it is to remain SS>Zone 1 Backbone. There is a three month grace period to accomplish thi SS>For more information please consult these files: BOFAQxxx.TXT and SS>ELISTxxx.ZIP, where "xxx" is the version number. They are available fr SS>hubs or can be requested from 1:1/201 or 1:396/1. SS>Regards, SS>Zone 1 Backbone Operations So, who is going to volunteer to be the new moderator? It's been months since Bonnie Goodwin has been here. Dennis Jenkins --- * PW * sorry no taglines * Origin: The NeverEnding BBS/Deltona,FL/407-860-7720/bbs.never (1:3618/555) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: F2E00000 Date: 02/08/98 From: CHUCK ALLEN Time: 05:53pm \/To: GREG KURTH (Read 0 times) Subj: SATELITE TV DIGITAL AUDIO -> CA>-> Which dish do you have? -> -> CA> Sony. -> -> Do they send their own programming, or do they just sell the -> hardware and use a company like USSB? They don't sell their own programming. --- ViaMAIL!/WC4 v1.30 * Origin: Maltese Alien: Been there, done that!: (412) 279-9561 1:129/41.1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: F2E00001 Date: 02/09/98 From: CAMERON HALL Time: 01:18am \/To: FRANK IUSTON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs -=> Quoting Frank Iuston to Phil Roberts on 6 Feb 98 01:23am <=- -=> Subj: Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs <=- FI> based at 9.5 cm/sec)...the Manuals say to use either TDK-SA or Maxell FI> UDII only..and here I was ready to put in a nice chunky TDK MA-XG - is FI> it true Metal tapes can burn the heads? Current Type IV, or Metal tapes are generally like all others. However, it the recorder's heads or erase heads and matching curcuitry aren't designed for metal tape, the result sound recording will be weak and distorted. This is due to the bias/erase levels being way-out for metal formulations. Also the record levels fed to the tape are higher. Playback doesn't matter, just use the CrO2 (chrome) setting. That'll be fine. Cameron Hall cameron.hall@bluebeam.gryn.org | ad121@hwcn.org Blue Beam MailServer | 905 662 5784 | Stoney Creek ON Canada | v34 FAX --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Blue Beam MailServer, Stoney Creek, Canada (1:2424/3120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: F2E00002 Date: 02/08/98 From: NICK BLUNDELL Time: 01:52am \/To: DENNIS LEWIS (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs In a message of 05 Feb 98 at 23:08:00 Dennis Lewis (1:157/427.0) wrote To me (2:255/126.6) about Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs ... DL> I have used a Hi fi VCR for recording of radio shows for later dubbing DL> to cassette and for making party tapes that will play uninterrupted for DL> hours. The results were generally better than FM quality but not up to DL> the same quality as my Nakamichi gets from the same sources. Can you tell me more about your _Nakamichi_ ? Cheers for now, Nick -=- E-mail: Nick.Blundell@letsf.camelot.co.uk -=- Fidonet 2:255/126.6, BBSnet 405:103/3.6, LETSnet 567:443/1.6 ... Behind every argument is someone's ignorance. --- Spot 1.3a #1659 * Origin: I think I just got the _POINT_ now!! :-) (2:255/126.6)