--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: EGS00000 Date: 12/21/97 From: JOE KOTROCZO Time: 03:37pm \/To: TERRY SMITH (Read 0 times) Subj: Matsushita (was: Scratch equipment...) Salut Terry, [Matsushita] TS> I haven't checked lately, but last time I did they had 16 different US TS> marketing divisions for various customer types or product lines. TS> 4 for audio, Panasonic, Technics consumer, semi-pro, and pro pro? You mean that Matsushita builds pro audio gear? Never heard of that. Under what label/brand name? bye .... Joe --- * Origin: F.A.T.C. (2:270/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: EGS00001 Date: 12/21/97 From: JOE KOTROCZO Time: 03:40pm \/To: NICK BLUNDELL (Read 0 times) Subj: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs Salut Nick, NB> I'm new in this echo but I would just like to see if there is anyone who NB> likes using NICAM Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs as audio decks? NB> As they give a good frequency response of (20Hz - 20KhZ) Why should one use the big and clumsy tapes of a VCR to record audio on, if one has such nice alternatives as DAT. Or, if you want analog, reel to reel tape. bye .... Joe --- * Origin: F.A.T.C. (2:270/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: EGS00002 Date: 12/21/97 From: JOE KOTROCZO Time: 04:09pm \/To: JAMES BRADLEY (Read 0 times) Subj: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs Salut James, NB>> I'm new in this echo but I would just like to see if there is anyone NB>> who likes using NICAM Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs as audio decks? JB> I use an old Sony that uses a potentiometer to adjust the input volume s JB> opposed to those crappy duckers (or whatever the term is) that adjusts JB> volume according to the input. What's the deal with this NICAM? I've never JB> heard of the brand. Do they use the same arrangement? NICAM is no brand. It is an acronym for "Near Instantaneously Companded Audio Multiplex". It is a standard for broadcasting digital stereo audio developed by the BBC. A VCR having NICAM in it's name is equipped with a NICAM decoder, it has nothing to do with the recording on the tape. JB> This Sony has a better S/N ratio than any 44.1K, 16 bit recording! No JB> slouch in many respects. I doubt this. Did you measure this? bye .... Joe --- * Origin: F.A.T.C. (2:270/20) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: EGT00000 Date: 12/23/97 From: TERRY SMITH Time: 02:53am \/To: JOE KOTROCZO (Read 0 times) Subj: Matsushita (was: Scratch equipment...) TS> I haven't checked lately, but last time I did TS> they had 16 different US TS> marketing divisions for various customer types or product lines. TS> 4 for audio, Panasonic, Technics consumer, semi-pro, and pro JK> pro? You mean that Matsushita builds pro audio gear? JK> Never heard of that. Under what label/brand name? I thought it was clear above. Technics is used for the three lines listed, with a small amount of overlap among lines. SP-10, SP-15, and SP-25 turntables are among the pro items. Terry --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Do it near resonance! (203)732-0575 (1:141/1275) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: EGT00001 Date: 12/16/97 From: ROB FOLLETT Time: 10:27pm \/To: NICK BLUNDELL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs Hi Nick, In a message of 15 Dec 97 Nick Blundell (2:255/126.6) wrote to All : > I'm new in this echo but I would just like to see if there is anyone > who likes using NICAM Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs as audio decks? I use an Aiwa FX2500 Nicam Stereo VCR here. It is *excellent* for mastering stuff onto audio cassette, and will take up to 8hrs music on a 4hr tape in long play mode with no noticeable loss of quality. Cheers, Rob --- JetMail 0.99beta23 * Origin: LETS Forum BBS 44-1326-378717, 24hrs (FidoNet 2:255/126) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: EGT00002 Date: 12/17/97 From: NICK BLUNDELL Time: 11:07am \/To: ROB FOLLETT (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs In a message of 16 Dec 97 Rob Follett wrote to me: Hello Rob RF> In a message of 15 Dec 97 Nick Blundell (2:255/126.6) wrote to All : >> I'm new in this echo but I would just like to see if there is anyone >> who likes using NICAM Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs as audio decks? RF> I use an Aiwa FX2500 Nicam Stereo VCR here. It is *excellent* for RF> mastering stuff onto audio cassette, and will take up to 8hrs music on RF> a 4hr tape in long play mode with no noticeable loss of quality. I've got a SANYO VHR775 & an AIWA FX2800 still prefer the SANYO for the slight edge on quality, still good even on long play, use my VCR decks all the time, you probably notice that you have some sort of audio switch will allow you to change the VIDEO mode back to Linear mono (Standard mono video track with hiss and buzz) - I find that once you have a NICAM Hi-Fi VCR you never go back to using the horrible mono ones. Both of these VCR's are 4 Head and have nice still frames, the AIWA still retains it still frame on long play as well :-) - It is quite worth while recording concerts from the TV and shows like Later With Jools Holland as you get some good tracks in good quality plus the visual as well. Nick. AzTag: I don't have a solution but I admire the problem. --- Spot 1.3a Unregistered * Origin: E-mail: Nick.Blundell@letsf.camelot.co.uk (2:255/126.6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: EGT00003 Date: 12/20/97 From: NICK BLUNDELL Time: 05:13pm \/To: CAMERON HALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs In a message of 16 Dec 97 Cameron Hall wrote to me: CH> North America uses VHS HiFi as a tape format. Headwear causes the HiFi CH> tracks to degrade first before the picture does. Have noticed that when you have a dodgy bit of tape that the Hi-Fi track disappears and you get the horrible muffly, buzzy, hissy linear mono track for a few seconds. CH> I don't know what NICAM is based on as far as it's technology is CH> concerned. :) NICAM doesn't actually have anything to do with the recording or playback, it is just the high quality audio signal which is digital that comes on the TV channels, So you receive digital audio but still analogue picture. This is the case in the UK anyway, don't know if you have some equivalent where you are or not. NB>> As they give a good frequency response of (20Hz - 20KhZ) CH> Most formats produced great Frequency response. However, in the case CH> of VHS, the two technologies of FM used for the carriers as well as CH> companding the sound, makes for reasonable sound. Note that transients CH> can be "softened" sometimes. Similer effects were noticed with the dBX CH> type II technique. Was the dBX type 2 method the combination of Chrome and Metal tape or something? NB>> Also has anyone heard of a SONY TA-AX4 Intergrated Stereo Amplifier? CH> That TA sounds like one of their digital amplifiers, but I could be CH> wrong. Hmmm... Well believe it or not I have one and just wondered if anybody had heard of it, it is a 1981 110Watt amplifier with a heat pipe, lots of fins and an old stlye volume control, might be old but it still sounds good, as long as your not looking for surround sound or anything fancy. Talking about surround sound has anyone here heard of the Hafler Surround method? Cheers for now, Nick. AzTag: C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\GO C:\PC\CRAWL --- Spot 1.3a Unregistered * Origin: Aztec Systems L.T.D. (2:255/126.6) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: EGU00000 Date: 12/21/97 From: JAMIE HOWARTH Time: 06:24pm \/To: ZACHARY J. GILLEY (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Scratch Equipment... Hi! ZG> Thanks for the info as far as the main equipment list I'd need...now I ZG> know what kinda turntable to by, and what else I'm gonna need...I'd ZG> prolly build my own box because I will be looking to add sampler and ZG> drum machine (gmta!)...any particular mags you'd recommend? Ahh, I learnt alot from the other replies you got. Maybe oneday I'll have the money to persue a dj hobby. I don't know about the mags, usual good rap mags like HHC, and Source have alot of turntable and dj ads. Enjoy, ohh I didn't relise you were from america so you prolly wont know the rap groups I mentioned, or the states, I'm from Australia. later! --- Ezycom V1.48g0 01fa00da * Origin: --=[ THE REX BBS! ]=-- --=[ (059) 76-2142 ]=-- (3:638/106) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: EGU00001 Date: 12/23/97 From: TERRY MAY Time: 11:57pm \/To: ROB FOLLETT (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs Re: _Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs_, Rob Follett wrote to Nick Blundell on 16 Dec 97: RF> I use an Aiwa FX2500 Nicam Stereo VCR here. It is *excellent* for RF> mastering stuff onto audio cassette, and will take up to 8hrs music on RF> a 4hr tape in long play mode with no noticeable loss of quality. It should be noted that PAL decks run about 33% slower than NTSC decks. That is, your SP is roughly equivalent to our LP. That's why you guys can have 4 hour tapes (and probably longer) and we tap out at about 3.3 hours. They're about the same length of tape, but our decks play faster. The PAL signal could make up for the difference in quality at the slower speed, though. ... "Stealin' watermelons off the vine..." --- JetMail 1.00alpha0 * Origin: Terry.May@rebel.ronly.org - Las Vegas, Nevada (1:209/745) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: EGU00002 Date: 12/24/97 From: PHIL ROBERTS Time: 02:49am \/To: JOE KOTROCZO (Read 0 times) Subj: Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs -=[ Quoting Joe Kotroczo to Nick Blundell ]=- JK> Salut Nick, NB> I'm new in this echo but I would just like to see if there is anyone who NB> likes using NICAM Hi-Fi Stereo VCRs as audio decks? NB> As they give a good frequency response of (20Hz - 20KhZ) JK> Why should one use the big and clumsy tapes of a VCR to record audio JK> on, if one has such nice alternatives as DAT. Or, if you want analog, JK> reel to reel tape. Hi-Fi VCRs are cheap and readily available. Phil --- Bink/Max/GE 1.20 Pro * Origin: Analytical Engine CBCS [440] 942-3876 (1:157/554)