--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F5G00202 Date: 04/17/98 From: SHOSHONA BIEMAN Time: 05:43am \/To: LARRY GAULT (Read 0 times) Subj: Klinton's Arrogant ASSumption! The following is a re-post: SB> Hacks, wanna-be's, phony-balonies, delusional... See also Larry... LG> Hey! Smile when you say that.... LG> or did you mean as in "Lawrence"? Go to the head of the EIB Class! To "pull a 'Larry'" is, indeed, to imitate Larry Lawrence (not imitating a corpse -- but to do that lying, self-aggrandizing, self-inflating, exaggeration thing... hehehehe...)... I guess we can make it a part of everyday speech: "I told a 'Larry'" "I am a 'Larry'" "I told a little white 'Larry'" "Tell me a 'Larry-tale', Daddy" "I 'Larryed' my way to the top" or should that be "I 'Larryed' my way to the bottom"? Or, how about some Song Titles: "Larry Me Back to Ol' Arlington" "Larry Me, Bill" "Larry, Larry" "Tell a Little Lie for Me, Demmie Larry" >>>>snicker<<<< Whaddya think? O>;-) [ Shoshona Bieman, Sysop: Shofar BBS @ 714-838-3837 ] [ Such a *NICE* Messianic Jewish, conservative Gal! ] [ California "Got Ilk?" Contingent _ Fido @ 1:103/505 ] --- Aeolus v1.2.1 (#49820837) * Origin: Shofar@714-838-3837 Right-Minded in Orange County (1:103/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F5G00203 Date: 04/17/98 From: SHOSHONA BIEMAN Time: 05:44am \/To: LARRY GAULT (Read 0 times) Subj: A New Theory The following is a re-post: WL> For that matter, I'm not even suggesting that WL> The Mob is anything more than the product of some writers' WL> (and prosecutors') fevered imaginations. LG> How could one doubt for even one minute the existence of LG> an organization who so boldly leaves the bodies of it's LG> enemies (or friends who might one day become enemies) LG> strewn around in such a hap-hazard fashion? Of course LG> the clinton administration exists! LG> Oh. You were talking about the Mob being a possible LG> product of some writer's fevered imagination, ne? Sadly, I giggled at the above comments. It is so tragic that we have such low-life vermin scum running our nation into the ground that the laughter, if anything at all, should only be considered a tension release... Considering how eager many Americans are to forgive Klinton of ANYTHING because they think (wait... they don't think -- so make that "CONSIDER"), how many CONSIDER Klinton good for the USA, because he "cares" for the people and they CONSIDER all his illegal activities to be "his personal life & none of OUR business" it makes me think that either Klinton has already succeeded in running the USA down into the ground -- or that all these mind-numbed people were already waiting, ready to assist Klinton in the demise of the American ideal and strong sense of fair-play, truth & justice that has been a mainstay since this great country declared independence! I'm thoroughly amazed at the blindness, apathy, indifference & lack of outrage from them... In the past, we've had many great presidents -- men who were rightfully admired and even heroes -- but in 5 too-long years the office of President has fallen from being the calling of a HERO, to being a big, fat ZERO... We Jews have a term for someone who is a nothing, a nobody -- we call them a "nebbish" ... a nebbish often has an inflated sense of self-worth (does that sound like some people we all know & despise?)... To end my discourse, here's a favorite Scripture of mine which accurately portrays the squatters in the Whine House: For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. Galatians 6:3 'Nuff said! [ Shoshona Bieman, Sysop: Shofar BBS @ 714-838-3837 ] [ Such a *NICE* Messianic Jewish, conservative Gal! ] [ California "Got Ilk?" Contingent _ Fido @ 1:103/505 ] --- Aeolus v1.2.1 (#49820837) * Origin: Shofar@714-838-3837 Right-Minded in Orange County (1:103/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F5G00204 Date: 04/17/98 From: SHOSHONA BIEMAN Time: 05:48am \/To: JOHN SAMPSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Mexican Immigration... The following is a re-post: JS> When Mexico opines about our immigration laws and JS> is critical of our internal affairs because it JS> adversely affects the Mexican economy, it's high JS> time we remind them that we have sovreign rights JS> just like any other country. As one of the INS's finest, your opinion is very-much wanted: There was big hype in our local (Southern California) news about the recent law-change in Mexico that allows people born THERE but living HERE to declare "dual nationality" status... I know here in the USA (RIGHTLY so!!!) we do NOT recognize dual citizenship (citizenship and nationality are 2 different things, but it is still suspicious). It stinks & I think the Mexican gov't is sanctioning/encouraging abuse of the USA in order to line its own pockets! I'm wondering if there is any concern among your ranks that this ruling will encourage MORE Mexican nationals to illegally enter the USA? I, personally, see it as a way for Mexico to legally encourage THEIR citizenry to illegally sneak into the USA, make American wage$, and maintain their active connection to Mexico (vis a vis, taking all their wages back to Mexico) and propping up the Mexican economy (it's bad enough that many, if not MOST, illegals come here and collect welfare, Medicaid, food stamps, educational & other benefits -- but it adds more insult to that injury when they take their countless millions back to Mexico to spend it THERE rather than spending it here, where it could help offset what they have leeched from us...) Now Mexican nationals have a "legal easy-out" that encourages them to save their greenbacks for their return visits as newly-declared "dual nationals" & continue to drain the USA of assets & benefits, but NOT give anything in return... Yup... it stinks... So, do you & your INS fellows have an opinion? [ Shoshona Bieman, Sysop: Shofar BBS @ 714-838-3837 ] [ Such a *NICE* Messianic Jewish, conservative Gal! ] [ California "Got Ilk?" Contingent _ Fido @ 1:103/505 ] --- Aeolus v1.2.1 (#49820837) * Origin: Shofar@714-838-3837 Right-Minded in Orange County (1:103/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F5G00205 Date: 04/17/98 From: SHOSHONA BIEMAN Time: 05:50am \/To: STEVE FRAGNER (Read 0 times) Subj: Life??? The following is a re-post: :WARNING: This message contains *many* multi-syllabic :WARNING: :WARNING: words, many of which have multiple meanings :WARNING: Little Stevie Fragner was overheard whining to Robert Plett: -> The onus is on you. SF> Again ,why the double talk? Onus: 1.Blame 2.Obligation 3.Burden SF> A typical Rushie word.... -> We simply communicate using proper words instead of just the -> grunts and monosyllables you evidently are accustomed to. -> That last statement of yours marks you unequivocally for what -> you are. Congratulations. You have achieved drive-by status. SF> A word with 3 meanings..........I rest my case........ What kind of case did you make, Steve? Virtually every word in the English language has multiple meanings -- some are quite disparate, while other words' meanings reflect the subtle differences and nuances to each definition. The words with multiple meanings are often better defined through those multiple meanings, which serves to CLARIFY as opposed to OBFUSCATE (uh, oh -- obfuscate has multiple meanings, and ALL could apply here!). Anyone with HALF a BRAIN, could look at at Mr. Plett's statement and COMPREHEND that contextually at least TWO of the definitions for "onus" could appropriately be applied. Your protestations to Mr. Plett about his choice of word indicates: 1) lack of the aforementioned "half a brain" 2) lack of the aforementioned "comprehension" 3) high probability that, in spite of quoting a dictionary, you still did not grasp the meaning or use of the word "onus" in the simple context used by Mr. Plett 4) barring shortcomings in your IQ or comprehension skills, and if your expertise with a dictionary is NOT as you so ineptly demonstrated, then we can only assume that: a) you were being deliberately obtuse b) you did so as a smoke screen to provoke/sustain an argument b) you did so as a smoke screen to flame and insult not only Mr. Plett, but to also do the same toward ALL participants on this echo as well as Rush Limbaugh himself. Disingenuous. The bottom line, Steve, is that you failed to address the question put to you. Rather than intelligently meet the challenge to support your untenable comments, you chose to be picayune about individual words. You could have gracefully accepted the opportunity to defend your position -- instead you seized upon an age-old child's trick: evading through attack, insult, or feigned ignorance (actually, a combination of all three) -- obfuscation at it's worst. So... just WHAT kind of pathetic case DID you make? [ Shoshona Bieman, Sysop: Shofar BBS @ 714-838-3837 ] [ Such a *NICE* Messianic Jewish, conservative Gal! ] [ California "Got Ilk?" Contingent _ Fido @ 1:103/505 ] --- Aeolus v1.2.1 (#49820837) * Origin: Shofar@714-838-3837 Right-Minded in Orange County (1:103/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F5G00206 Date: 04/17/98 From: SHOSHONA BIEMAN Time: 05:51am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Food Fascism... The following is a re-post: Well guys... it looks like food fascism is now becoming a big-time issue... It appears that your preferences for how to prepare a steak at a restaurant will NOT include rare, & possibly even medium-rare. It seems to be a "health" issue having to do with getting the meat hot enough when cooked ... So, I guess it would also rule out Steak Tartar... Being Jewish (Jews are forbidden by the Scriptures to eat meat with any blood still in it), I prefer my steak medium, so this sort of nonsense will not affect me... However, I think if a person wants to enjoy their steak rare/medium-rare, that it is THEIR right to choose -- the government has no business meddling in this area... On a related note: How many of you think that the Budweiser Frogs will now replace Joe Camel as the next Great Evil we will have to abolish to "save the children"? I can see the government doing to the alcoholic beverage industry what they have done to tobacco -- anyone else care to weigh-in on this issue? [ Shoshona Bieman, Sysop: Shofar BBS @ 714-838-3837 ] [ Such a *NICE* Messianic Jewish, conservative Gal! ] [ California "Got Ilk?" Contingent _ Fido @ 1:103/505 ] --- Aeolus v1.2.1 (#49820837) * Origin: Shofar@714-838-3837 Right-Minded in Orange County (1:103/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F5G00207 Date: 04/17/98 From: SHOSHONA BIEMAN Time: 05:52am \/To: ROBERT CRAFT (Read 0 times) Subj: Illegal Aliens The following is a re-post: Robert Craft was overheard correcting Mike Angwin: MA> I am remined of those who aided escaping slaves along the MA> underground railroad talking to those given the task of MA> returning them to their owners. I can well imagine such MA> words being said. RC> Oh? Which illegal aliens were brought to this country in RC> chains and against their will? MA> No not brought in in chains, just as fleeing slaves did not MA> flee to free states in chains, but, like we once captured MA> fleeing slaves, chained them, and forced them back into the MA> chains of slavery, we are now capturing those fleeing MA> hopelessness, chaining them, and forcing them back into the MA> chains of hopelessness. RC> Nice hyperbole, but irrelevant to the facts. This strained attempt by Mike to ennoble illegal aliens and liken their "suffering" to the horror of slavery not only makes me nauseous (anyone else hear a huge choir start humming _The Battle Hymn of the Republic_?), it also convinces me of how delusional one must be to believe the above, cloying claptrap -- especially in the light of numerous news reports I have followed in the past year... Slavery? I guess you could claim that -- especially when you consider that many of these vermin who sneak illegally into our country start up their OWN underground operations to sneak in more illegals... Only to bring them in as SLAVES to make their own fortunes. Don't believe me still? Need I remind you of the grounded ship off of New York that brought in Asian (Chinese) illegals who were to be bound over as slave labor to "work off" their passage. There have also been numerous garment industry sweathouses, run/owned by illegals, using illegals who were smuggled in and enslaved, that have been busted -- on both coasts... And lets not forget the bordello in Florida, run/owned by illegals, using illegals who were smuggled in and enslaved to work as prostitutes (not what those gals came here for) -- to "service" the illegal farm-hands (so, in addition to illegally entering our country, they further scoff at our laws by engaging in and supporting prostitution AND slavery!!!). Still don't believe me that illegals are NOT a noble, honorable group deserving of our respect? Then explain all these other "career choices" made by illegals (all heavily documented in recent news reports, and all are booming "industries"): Selling forged green cards, passports, and driver's licenses. Selling forged "proof of insurance" certificates (circumvents laws requiring motorists to have insurance & keep proof in car). Ripping off "Calling Card" numbers then selling phone time to other illegals on street corners so they can phone home (where the illegals came from -- and where they should be forcibly be returned to). When interviewd, the illegals -- who are all lined up at the pay phones, waiting their turn to rip-off some poor, unsuspecting American -- don't care that they are stealing and breaking our laws. Running Medicaid and Food Stamp scams -- lying about their status to get benefits. When obtained, they use the Food Stamps illegally, exchanging them for cash, drugs, and/or booze. Running Social Security scams -- recruiting people off the streets to see crooked doctors who falsify medical histories to help a person be declared "disabled" so they can collect benefits. The doctor gets a huge cut of the lump-sum back-payment, which in turn is split with the illegal recruiter. Running Insurance scams -- recruiting people who were not hurt in minor fender-benders to see crooked doctors & lawyers who falsify the injuries and embellish the account to sue for "damages." The doctor & lawyer get a huge cut of the settlement, which is split with the illegal recruiter. And then there is the WORST insurance scam -- involving small groups of illegals who help stage phony accidents (either by staging a 1-car incident with a carload of pals, or by picking a target on the freeway to force into an accident & stage it so that it looks like the target caused the accident -- this has the nasty habit of causing serious injuries and even death for the innocents targeted by these vermin). Anyway, the above is a sampling of many of the noble careers that illegals pursue when in this country. They are regular role models, aren't they? ... ... ... ... ... ... NOT!!! ... ... ... ... ... ... [ Shoshona Bieman, Sysop: Shofar BBS @ 714-838-3837 ] [ Such a *NICE* Messianic Jewish, conservative Gal! ] [ California "Got Ilk?" Contingent _ Fido @ 1:103/505 ] --- Aeolus v1.2.1 (#49820837) * Origin: Shofar@714-838-3837 Right-Minded in Orange County (1:103/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F5G00208 Date: 04/17/98 From: SHOSHONA BIEMAN Time: 05:53am \/To: ALL (Read 0 times) Subj: Humor: Da Beginning??? The following is a re-post: Just for fun -- Imagine how things would have been on earth if the Klinton Administration did this (would we EVEN be here??? hehehe): Not Found in Genesis ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~~ In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Quickly, God was faced with a class action suit for failure to file an environmental impact statement. God was granted a temporary permit for the project, but was stymied with the cease and desist order for the earthly part. Then God said, "Let there be light!" Immediately, the officials demanded to know how the light would be made. Would there be strip mining? What about thermal pollution? God explained that the light would come from a large ball of fire. God was granted provisional permission to make light, assuming that no smoke would result from the ball of fire, and that he would obtain a building permit and to conserve energy, He would have the light out half the time. God agreed and offered to call the light "Day" and the darkness "Night". The officials replied that they were not interested in semantics. God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plant yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit." The EPA agreed, so long as only native seed was used. Then God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth." The officials pointed out that this would require approval from the Department of Game coordinated with the Heavenly Wildlife Federation and the Audubon Society. Everything was okay until God said the project would be completed in six days. The officials said it would take at least two hundred days to review the applications and the impact statement. After that there would be a public hearing. Then there would be ten to twelve months before... At this point, God created Hell. --- [ Shoshona Bieman, Sysop: Shofar BBS @ 714-838-3837 ] [ Such a *NICE* Messianic Jewish, conservative Gal! ] [ California "Got Ilk?" Contingent _ Fido @ 1:103/505 ] --- Aeolus v1.2.1 (#49820837) * Origin: Shofar@714-838-3837 Right-Minded in Orange County (1:103/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F5G00209 Date: 04/17/98 From: SHOSHONA BIEMAN Time: 05:55am \/To: ROBERT CRAFT (Read 0 times) Subj: Children/"Faith Healing" The following is a re-post: RC> However, what of the parents whose religious beliefs deny RC> the utility of moderm medicine and trust only to prayer RC> while ignoring the scriptural admonition the God helps RC> those who help themselves? What of the children who die RC> of untreated diseases such as meningitis or diabetes? 1) There is NO Scriptural admonition that says "God helps those who help themselves"... Surprise! 2) Anyone, who wants to claim a "healing" of any disease is down-right deluded if they don't go to a doctor to confirm that healing... And they are crazy if they stop treatment or refuse medication until such time as they DO receive medical confirmation that they are free & clear of their disease(s). Further, it is BOTH crazy AND criminal to do the above to a child! All that said, I will pray for the LORD to heal me or to give my doctors wisdom/guidance when I am being treated. The past two years I've been in the hospital several times & have undergone 3 surgeries -- not for "lack of faith" or "sin"... but because I needed medical help... I sought the help & am alive and glad of it. If any nutcase with a skewed view of the Scriptures wants to take me on, I would be more than happy to set them straight about their crazy and dangerous views; which, IMHO, is actually an insult to God -- because they are putting the LORD to the test, something expressly forbidden in the Scriptures! RC> Has the state no resposibility to those children? When a child is denied proper care and it puts their life in jeopardy, it becomes a criminal act. Better the state should intervene on a case of neglect rather than having the tragedy of prosecuting for a murder later. It is a touchy issue, especially where "religion" is concerned -- and one we all must walk a tightrope on as we balance between people's rights, the law, parental rights, and religious rights... [ Shoshona Bieman, Sysop: Shofar BBS @ 714-838-3837 ] [ Such a *NICE* Messianic Jewish, conservative Gal! ] [ California "Got Ilk?" Contingent _ Fido @ 1:103/505 ] --- Aeolus v1.2.1 (#49820837) * Origin: Shofar@714-838-3837 Right-Minded in Orange County (1:103/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F5G00210 Date: 04/17/98 From: SHOSHONA BIEMAN Time: 06:51am \/To: JEAN HALVERSON (Read 0 times) Subj: Re: California and Hispan Hi Jean! JH> But seriously, I just speak about the New Testament JH> policy of non racism in the "there are neither Jews JH> nor Greeks, neither bond nor free" context. If God JH> sees us in a non racial context then we should JH> strive to see each other the same way. (((groan))) Another example of social activism replacing the truth of the Gospel ... That is one of the most misquoted & misinterpreted Scriptures bantered around today. To apply it to immigration requires a real stretch of the imagination -- and abandoning the social & cultural context in which it was spoken by Rav Shaul (Paul the Apostle). The quote from Galatians applies to a theocracy -- which has NEVER been the case for the United States. It describes the state of the true Believers, with all their different backgrounds, & how they are made one in Messiah. It is NOT about some feel good philosophy so we can have an international warm fuzzy moment with everybody and their cousin -- it only applies to the Believers, and no one else. I'm a real stickler for getting things right -- especially where the Scriptures are concerned. I don't like to see people try and make the Scriptures say what they want it to say -- too many people treat the Word of God as some sort of "smorgie" where they can pick and choose what to believe and fabricate their own meanings for things. Misintepretations and "faith" founded upon those fabrications has led to wars, crusades, and inquisitions. If people would just relax & quit doing gymnastics with the Bible, we would have a much better world. There is a profound simplicity to the message of the Bible -- one which could truly touch lives if folks would just give it half a chance... and if people would stop looking for rallying points for their social agendas in there ... such as PETA's nonsense or ideas about immigration or what-have-you... Bottom line: religion is off-topic for this echo -- but if someone is going to claim a Scriptural imperative for some issue we discuss here, they better be prepared for ME to set the record straight if it is any kind of stretch or deviancy from the pure teaching of the Word -- keep it contextual, socially & culturally, and we'll do fine! 'Nuff Said! (Dayenu!) [ Shoshona Bieman, Sysop: Shofar BBS @ 714-838-3837 ] [ Such a *NICE* Messianic Jewish, conservative Gal! ] [ California "Got Ilk?" Contingent _ Fido @ 1:103/505 ] --- Aeolus v1.2.1 (#49820837) * Origin: Shofar@714-838-3837 Right-Minded in Orange County (1:103/505) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 115 RUSH LIMBAUGH Ref: F5G00211 Date: 04/02/98 From: JUSTIN CASH Time: 10:35pm \/To: JANADA OAKLEY (Read 0 times) Subj: How Conveeeeenient! I can just see it now....A Scorsesi(is that the right spelling of that director who likes to do mob films....) movie about Clintax. Also....is it just me...or can any of you others atest to this: I went to a basketball game last night with a couple friends from work....not knowing the politicial status of either really i might add.ANYways....i speak of Rush....and ack! he starts talking about extremists and stuff.Hmmm.....just like you guys,i've listening to rush for quite some time now(not THAT long though....im only 20) ,so....any comments. justin --- PB2.01+FE1.45+DB1.58 * Origin: Phoenix StarFighter BBS (1:3616/20)