--------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: DAJ00000 Date: 06/13/96 From: MIKE RICHARDS Time: 11:42am \/To: DAVID RICHER (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: Stereo DR> I have for sale DR> A One Month Old Stereo system for the car... DR> It includes DR> (1) 12 inch Still Water Designs Kicker Solo Baric SubWoofer DR> (1) .88 Cubic foot Specially made cabinet for this specific subwoofer DR> (1) Alpine MRVF400 Amplifier.. Capbable to powering a Whole Car Stereo syst DR> 160 watts alone into the subwoofer and 60 x 2 left for Midbass speakers and DR> tweeters DR> I will Include ALL the wiring necessary to hook up the Amp to a system DR> i.e. Fuse Blocks,The proper Gauged wiring,caps,terminals,distrubitor... DR> DR> Includes all Books,Manuals,docs,boxes Hey.. I'm interested but I have no idea what to give you for a price on it.. give me a price and I'll probably go for it.. (well in reason of course :) ) Curly --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: The Neutral Zone - Oliver, BC - (604)498-0271 (1:354/120) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: DAJ00001 Date: 06/13/96 From: BOB ALLMAN Time: 09:38pm \/To: MATT ION (Read 4 times) Subj: audio upgrades BA> Like Bonnie, I'm not interested in having a boom car, but rather BA> clean bass reproduction. Unfortunately, with a 2 seater sports BA> car, the biggest I could fit without interfering with something BA> would be 6.5" tubes. BA> If they'd help extend low frequency response I'd be satisfied; but BA> boom NOPE! MIYou won't get any kind of "audiophile-quality" output from generic bass tubes. Even in something as cramped as a Fiero or MR2, there's plenty hat can be done to custom-build a decent enclosure for a quality sub. MIWhat kind of car do you have? Matt, In the case I'm referring to it's a '96 Mazda Miata. The trunk is only 3.2 cubes and the cockpit is ample for 2 people and thats about it. I also have an '86 Ford diesel F250 and a restored '73 Dodge Challenger muscle car. The Miata comes with a Panasonic AM/FM/cassette unit driving door mounted 5 1/4 coaxials and a pair of mid/tweeters in each seat's headrest. The speaker response is pedistrian. The amp is around 10w/RMS per channel. Hence my queries about what might make sense to improve the overall sound. No boomers but better output across the band and audibility without distortion at 75mph hiway speeds with the top down! My pride 'n joy is still my home system: Carver TX11a tuner, Phase Linear 3000 II preamp, JVC QL7 TT w/Denon MC cart, Nakamichi Dragon, Kenwood FX1100HX cassette, Tandberg TD20A R-R, two Phillips CDC935 CD units, Concord DBA10 outboard Dolby, Sony ECM989 stereo mid-side mic, Pioneer DT510 timer, Kenwood GE1000 equilizer, modified Dynaco ST410 amp, Miller & Kreisel Mil-X xover, Cerwin Vega 320D/MT-B 18" "earthquake" subwoofer/satellite system. Some of this equipment dates back to 1971 but each was selected on performance/price ratios. The system sounds great. Despite that I'm VERY interested in the $2k homebrew speakers based on a Carver 60" ribbon that is currently included in an $80k high end audiophile speaker system. A couple of folks here on the echo have ordered the raw speakers and are building systems. Waiting to hear about their experiences and evaluations. Take care! -=[Bob Allman]=- allmanr@sups28.ellsworth.af.mil * 1st 2.00 #427 * Red ship hits blue ship; sailors are marooned... --- Silver Xpress Mail System 5.03M1 * Origin: Ducky's 605-393-9626 V.34 (1:293/643) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: DAJ00002 Date: 06/12/96 From: BONNIE GOODWIN Time: 07:52pm \/To: GREG COBB (Read 4 times) Subj: Expired Listing Hi Greg, I will be sending those messages again in the next day or two, perhaps even tonight yet. I'm still dealing with a connection that is not stable, even though it was sent Crash Netmail, there wasn't a response. Bonnie *:> --- HyperMail! v1.22 * Origin: Omni - (916) 388-0905, longest running Sac BBS (1:203/3333) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: DAJ00003 Date: 06/12/96 From: BONNIE GOODWIN Time: 08:09pm \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: DA RULES!!! Welcome to the International Fido-Net AUDIO echo! We hope you enjoy this echo and visit us often. Some guidelines on this echo follow: *- PURPOSE -* The AUDIO echo is a topic limited message area intended to provide a place for general discussion of sound, audio and acoustics except as noted below including hi-fi, stereo, car stereo, walkmans, audio for film/video, pro audio, sound reinforcement, recording, broadcasting, sound synthesis, etc. EXCEPTIONS AND LIMITATIONS: A. Any topic that does not fall within the PURPOSE as stated above is deemed off-topic and should not be posted in the AUDIO echo. 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HOW TO REACH THE MODERATOR Call (916)483-8624 VOICE (8AM-9PM PST). I can also be reached at Fido 1:203/909 or Internet at Bonnie.Goodwin@Cap-City-Gateway.COM Bonnie Goodwin Moderator - AUDIO Now, let's all get back to discussing AUDIO!! --- HyperMail! v1.22 * Origin: Omni - (916) 388-0905, longest running Sac BBS (1:203/3333) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: DAJ00004 Date: 06/13/96 From: PAUL WILSON Time: 03:38pm \/To: GLENN FEHRS (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: car audio -=> Quoting Glenn Fehrs to Paul Wilson <=- > Have you tried BLAUBOX, PET,AVI or LSD?? I use them all and am quite happy > with their results. GF> Top Box is commercial, available from: GF> Zalytron GF> 469 Jericho Turnpike GF> Mineola, NY 11501 GF> (516) 747-3515 GF> Price is $99. There is no shareware or demo version that I know of. GF> I agree with you on LED. I downloaded Bandbox, but my copy seems to be GF> grundged; it will let me get as far as entering the woofer diameter, GF> but will not progress to any other data field. I haven't tried the GF> others you mention, but will look for them. Thanks for the info! GF> Any experience with LMP? Quickbox? BassBox for Windows? Xover for GF> Windows? Loudspeaker Architect? These are all commercial and (mostly) GF> very reasonably priced, but I don't know how good they are. I have bandbox (it works), and I'm fairly pleased with it's results. Not too fancy, but a good number cruncher. Loudspeaker Architect is a good ittle terminal but it's sorta confusing at first. As for the others, can't say as I've tried. ... Catch the Blue Wave! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: KCC BBS, Peterborough, Ont. Canada (705)748-0023 (1:253/122) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: DAJ00005 Date: 06/13/96 From: PAUL WILSON Time: 03:42pm \/To: GLENN FEHRS (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: car audio -=> Quoting Glenn Fehrs to Paul Wilson <=- GF> Re: Re: car audio > I'm a speaker..er...enclosure builder. I agree low-Q is the way to go. 'm > an installer and although I have to deliver what the people I try to way > them towards fidelity and not boom. BOOM IS OUT PEOPLE. It went out with > the 80's. I put a pair of 6" dynaudio's in the doors of my car. The odel > number fails me now. Very fine drivers. I highly > reccomend them. I have som GF> Boom IS out, at least where my system is concerned. GF> Focal also has some impressive mobile hardware. I also saw a data GF> sheet and description of what just might make the ultimate audiophile GF> auto sub: Skaaning SK300-344DVC, designed by the founder of Dynaudio. GF> This looks to be a world class driver that could sound absolutely GF> amazing in a small enclosure. Wow! But the $680 price makes it unlikely GF> that I'll be using one anytime soon. :-( > Tline and bandpass enclosure programs as well as a > basic sealed/ported job > wrote myself..not great but it gets the job done. GF> Interested in any Tline or bandpass programs! What are you using? GF> The tLine prgm. is calle dTLINE, it's shareware...can't tell too much about it as I havn't been able to get two answers the same in a row. Bandbox is a pretty good term...not fancy but it works.I'd like more info on rhe sk300-344DVC ... Catch the Blue Wave! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: KCC BBS, Peterborough, Ont. Canada (705)748-0023 (1:253/122) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: DAJ00006 Date: 06/13/96 From: PAUL WILSON Time: 03:49pm \/To: BONNIE GOODWIN (Read 4 times) Subj: Re: car audio -=> Quoting Bonnie Goodwin to Paul Wilson <=- BG> Hi Paul! BG> Tight bass can be an exciting thing, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'll say...AEROSMITH...1993....Toronto, Ottawa...Saint John I have never been so moved (literally) by their music. BG> What is BG> worse is that the majority of those using and abusing audio BG> in cars don't seem to give a damn how bad it sounds as long BG> as it is loud and boomy. I agree but, where there is a donkey there'll be a donkey's ass right? Personally I hate the above mentioned people but, other than TRY to educate them,what are we gonna do? ... Catch the Blue Wave! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- Maximus/2 2.02 * Origin: KCC BBS, Peterborough, Ont. Canada (705)748-0023 (1:253/122) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: DAK00000 Date: 06/16/96 From: BACKBONE OPERATIONS Time: 12:12am \/To: ALL (Read 4 times) Subj: Expired Listing Hello. The listing in the Zone 1 EchoList for this echo has expired. 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Regards, Zone 1 Backbone Operations --- Harvey's Robot v6.00 * Origin: Southern Star - V.32b/V.FC/V.34/ISDN - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: DAK00001 Date: 06/14/96 From: BONNIE GOODWIN Time: 10:22pm \/To: CHARLES DOUGHTY (Read 4 times) Subj: fixed ?? Hi Charles, Nope, still broke. Bonnie *:> --- QScan/PCB v1.18b / 01-0249 * Origin: The Gateway PcBoard, Home of the TRS-80 Super Computer (1:203/909) --------------- FIDO MESSAGE AREA==> TOPIC: 183 AUDIO Ref: DAK00002 Date: 06/03/96 From: BONNIE GOODWIN Time: 09:02pm \/To: CHARLES DOUGHTY (Read 4 times) Subj: test my audio kid! Hi Charles (or is that Joe?), Well, your test got nowhere fast. Didn't make it to OMNI at all. Am assuming that this will get as far. Have fun in Reno! Bonnie *:> --- QScan/PCB v1.18b / 01-0249 * Origin: The Capitol City Gateway, Internet News & Email Gateway 1:203/909)